Expounding on the Feasts of the Lord

[just-me]

Continuing from post 220, one can comprehend a little better with this scripture.

There are numerous scriptures concerning the seventh month, and what the reality of the feast of Tabernacles were really for. It is for a convocation to meditate on all the other reasons and feasts throughout the year, including Passover, and everything that happened from that day foreword. In essence, it is completed, and remains with us in Christ to this very day. I think these are as peace offerings different than trespass, or sin sacrifices by the people offering them. Hope that isn't confusing.
Numbers 29:1-4 (KJV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP]And in the seventh month, on the first day of the month, ye shall have an holy convocation; ye shall do no servile work: it is a day of blowing the trumpets unto you.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]And ye shall offer a burnt offering for a sweet savour unto the LORD; one young bullock, one ram, and seven lambs of the first year without blemish:
[SUP]3 [/SUP]And their meat offering shall be of flour mingled with oil, three tenth deals for a bullock, and two tenth deals for a ram,
[SUP]4 [/SUP]And one tenth deal for one lamb, throughout the seven lambs:

Psalm 30:4 (KJV)
[SUP]4 [/SUP]Sing unto the LORD, O ye saints of his, and give thanks at the remembrance of his holiness.

John 14:26 (KJV)
[SUP]26 [/SUP]But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

Jude 1:5 (KJV)
[SUP]5 [/SUP]I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not.

 

[just-me]

All the feasts are based on the Hebrew Civil Calendar, or the lunar calendar. So the date in our calendar has to be checked with the lunar calendar each year to find our corresponding date of a feast.

Pentecost is counted from the Feast of First Fruits, or Bikkurim. It is the day that Christ arose.

Sorry, I find nowhere in the Bible that the counting of days started the 4th day after Passover. I'm looking at the first Passover in the book of Exodus only at this point, relating it directly to Jesus.

A sheaf of the new barley harvest (ʿomer) was offered on the second day of the Passover festival (Lev. 23:10–11, 15–16)

The Passover was the beginning of the 15th day of the first month. Are you saying that the count starts on the 18th?
Where is the scripture? I thought it started on the day after Passover which is Jesus' first day and night in the grave.

 

[Karraster]

Thanks to all who have contributed so much to the spirit in which the thread was created!

"Shadows of things to come" is a familiar phrase to most Bible readers. Shadows of things to come can sound vague, as such Paul said, "..we see thru a glass darkly.." and so I wanted to think on these things and share what it means to other believers.
I know for there to be a shadow there must necessarily be it's solid counterpart, and as the shadow moves it is in unison with the Messiah that casts the shadow. May we all study to show ourselves approved in that great last day! Holding fast to our great hope and faith in our Messiah, holy is His name!

 

[RedTent]

Sorry, I find nowhere in the Bible that the counting of days started the 4th day after Passover. I'm looking at the first Passover in the book of Exodus only at this point, relating it directly to Jesus.

A sheaf of the new barley harvest (ʿomer) was offered on the second day of the Passover festival (Lev. 23:10–11, 15–16)

The Passover was the beginning of the 15th day of the first month. Are you saying that the count starts on the 18th?
Where is the scripture? I thought it started on the day after Passover which is Jesus' first day and night in the grave.

It is three days after Passover, or after the day Christ was crucified. Christ was three days in the grave, so First Fruits is three days after Passover. Pentecost is 50 days after First Fruits.

 

[just-me]

It is three days after Passover, or after the day Christ was crucified. Christ was three days in the grave, so First Fruits is three days after Passover. Pentecost is 50 days after First Fruits.

I understand where you are coming from, but I find no Old Testament scripture that mentions 3 days after Passover is first fruits. We can assume that in all honesty, but I want scripture that mentions that specifically the third, or fourth day after Passover, or the 17th, or 18th of Nisan or Abib, or the first month is the start of the count. So now we have 53 days from Passover right according to your calculations?


Leviticus 23:5-6 (KJV)
[SUP]5 [/SUP]In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the LORD'S passover. (even starts the 15th day)
[SUP]6 [/SUP]And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread unto the LORD: seven days ye must eat unleavened bread.
Leviticus 23:10-11 (KJV)
[SUP]10 [/SUP]Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When ye be come into the land which I give unto you, and shall reap the harvest thereof, then ye shall bring a sheaf of the firstfruits of your harvest unto the priest:
[SUP]11 [/SUP]And he shall wave the sheaf before the LORD, to be accepted for you: on the morrow after the sabbath (what day is this?) the priest shall wave it.
Leviticus 23:15 (KJV)
[SUP]15 [/SUP]And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven sabbaths shall be complete:
Deuteronomy 16:9 (KJV)
[SUP]9 [/SUP]Seven weeks shalt thou number unto thee: begin to number the seven weeks from such time as thou beginnest to put the sickle to the corn.


These scriptures mention nothing about the Passover. It appears that firstfruits and the counting of days will vary after entering into the promised land. I am trying to find confirmation of the counting of days from the first Passover to God calling Moses to go up mount Sinai. This was a Sabbath and seems to be the 5th of Sivan. One week later Moses ascended, and that appears to be the 12th of Sivan. This time of 7 weeks, and adding one day to make 50 days must have had to coincide with Christ's crucifixion and Pentecost in the book of Acts. I am interested about the counting of days from the Exodus to the giving of he law, and how the 7 weeks are calculated from Christ's death to Pentecost. What happened on the 3rd day after the first Passover, if that relates to firstfruits 40 years later? In Exodus, either the 14th or 15th day was a Sabbath depending whether the first day of the month was a Sabbath or not. Did the feast of Unleavened Bread involve firstfruits?

Three days after Passover doesn't match the giving of the law in Exodus chapter 24.

 

[PapaBear]

NO!! Jesus came to fulfill the law and the prophecies and to establish a New Covenant. Because of his shed blood as the New Covenant sacrificial Lamb, we no longer MUST conform to the Mosaic law. If one chooses to celebrate the feasts because they enjoy keeping older traditions alive, that is ok. But in no way is my salvation tied to a REQUIREMENT to keep and celebrate the feasts.

 

[just-me]

NO!! Jesus came to fulfill the law and the prophecies and to establish a New Covenant. Because of his shed blood as the New Covenant sacrificial Lamb, we no longer MUST conform to the Mosaic law. If one chooses to celebrate the feasts because they enjoy keeping older traditions alive, that is ok. But in no way is my salvation tied to a REQUIREMENT to keep and celebrate the feasts.

Try this part of the law in the Spirit of truth and see if your soul and heart are edified. This is referring to the feast of tabernacles. I wrote and studied these things so you can blame me if you disagree. These are not copied from another persons viewpoint, these are my views.

To clarify the meaning of the oil used in these offerings, I will start by quoting Numbers 15:4 which says; “Then shall he that offereth his offering unto the LORD bring a meat offering of a tenth deal of flour mingled with the fourth part of an hin of oil.” Oil reflects light, and glistens because of the light. It is fully refined representing the fulfillment of all things through Christ Jesus. Jesus said in John 9:4-5 “I must work the works of him that sent me, while it is day: the night cometh, when no man can work. As long as I am in the world, I am the light of the world.” He also said that we, as members of His church, should reflect that light. (Matthew 5:14, and John 11:9) With that said, the spiritual meaning of the olive is giving nourishment for the soul, giving the world the sign, or signal found in His cross. The oil, spelled out in the Hebrew language, is clearly the blood flowing out from the Father’s Son produced by the beating, and chaos resulting in the death of the flesh, being the olive itself. The oil is then seen as the end result of the best refinement process known.
To put this in proper perspective there is one simple verse in Leviticus 17:11 that says it all. “ For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul.”
So the question arises; why one-quarter part of a “hin” of oil, and what is a “hin”? In this area of offerings a “hin” is denoted as a measurement that is final. It also involves the attributes of reaching out and responding to the call, and the desire to receive that which is freely given. Romans 8:32 says it best. “ He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?” So now there remains the answer to the question; “why one-quarter part of a “hin” of oil?” From what I have found, “hin” is related to a square with four sides, or something that has four parts. It is classified as something designed in four parts as a complete product. If one part of the four pieces were to be absent, for any reason, it would become useless. With that said, we now understand that the fourth part of the “hin” is the final piece to the whole product. The “hin” also holds the lump of flour together making it a “new lump.” We read in 1 Corinthians 5:7
“Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:” Now, all of a sudden, we are incorporating the seventh month of Tishri with the first month of Nisan which is the month that includes Passover.

This is the law of cleansing.

Leviticus 14:36-57 (KJV)
[SUP]36 [/SUP]Then the priest shall command that they empty the house, before the priest go into it to see the plague, that all that is in the house be not made unclean: and afterward the priest shall go in to see the house:
[SUP]37 [/SUP]And he shall look on the plague, and, behold, if the plague be in the walls of the house with hollow strakes, greenish or reddish, which in sight are lower than the wall;
[SUP]38 [/SUP]Then the priest shall go out of the house to the door of the house, and shut up the house seven days:
[SUP]39 [/SUP]And the priest shall come again the seventh day, and shall look: and, behold, if the plague be spread in the walls of the house;
[SUP]40 [/SUP]Then the priest shall command that they take away the stones in which the plague is, and they shall cast them into an unclean place without the city:
[SUP]41 [/SUP]And he shall cause the house to be scraped within round about, and they shall pour out the dust that they scrape off without the city into an unclean place:
[SUP]42 [/SUP]And they shall take other stones, and put them in the place of those stones; and he shall take other morter, and shall plaister the house.
[SUP]43 [/SUP]And if the plague come again, and break out in the house, after that he hath taken away the stones, and after he hath scraped the house, and after it is plaistered;
[SUP]44 [/SUP]Then the priest shall come and look, and, behold, if the plague be spread in the house, it is a fretting leprosy in the house: it is unclean.
[SUP]45 [/SUP]And he shall break down the house, the stones of it, and the timber thereof, and all the morter of the house; and he shall carry them forth out of the city into an unclean place.
[SUP]46 [/SUP]Moreover he that goeth into the house all the while that it is shut up shall be unclean until the even.
[SUP]47 [/SUP]And he that lieth in the house shall wash his clothes; and he that eateth in the house shall wash his clothes.
[SUP]48 [/SUP]And if the priest shall come in, and look upon it, and, behold, the plague hath not spread in the house, after the house was plaistered: then the priest shall pronounce the house clean, because the plague is healed.
[SUP]49 [/SUP]And he shall take to cleanse the house two birds, and cedar wood, and scarlet, and hyssop:
[SUP]50 [/SUP]And he shall kill the one of the birds in an earthen vessel over running water:
[SUP]51 [/SUP]And he shall take the cedar wood, and the hyssop, and the scarlet, and the living bird, and dip them in the blood of the slain bird, and in the running water, and sprinkle the house seven times:
[SUP]52 [/SUP]And he shall cleanse the house with the blood of the bird, and with the running water, and with the living bird, and with the cedar wood, and with the hyssop, and with the scarlet:
[SUP]53 [/SUP]But he shall let go the living bird out of the city into the open fields, and make an atonement for the house: and it shall be clean.
[SUP]54 [/SUP]This is the law for all manner of plague of leprosy, and scall,
[SUP]55 [/SUP]And for the leprosy of a garment, and of a house,
[SUP]56 [/SUP]And for a rising, and for a scab, and for a bright spot:
[SUP]57 [/SUP]To teach when it is unclean, and when it is clean: this is the law of leprosy.

Verse 37 and 44

This scripture has been very uplifting to me, explaining a restoration after having been given the gift of faith. To me, it explains how the high Priest (Christ Jesus) has the power to clean the house (me) after welcoming Him in, to see the corruption of my fleshly nature, with vacant holes that need to be filled.
Verse 38

There were 7 days between Jesus entering Jerusalem, and His resurrection, 7 being the number, or letter “Zayin” (completeness) relating to food and nourishment, being the picture of a mattock (in the Hebrew pictorial) that prepares the ground, or heart. Relate to the parable of the sower and the seed.

Verse 40

Jesus was taken outside the city walls and killed with our unclean iniquity inside of Him.
Verse 41 and 45

He will take corruption away, in the process as He determines, on the cross outside the city walls.

Verse 46 and 47 compared with Paul’s writings

Romans 12:2 (KJV)
[SUP]2 [/SUP]And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

Verse 48 and 52

He will baptize me and pronounce me clean before the Father.
Verse 49 and 51

Cedar wood=known for it’s strength and deep root, even though the cross was Dogwood as I understand, and it doesn’t rot as other woods do.
Scarlet=blood
Hyssop=it is mentioned in Psalm 51 of the Bible as a Spiritual Purifying Agent, as it is written: Cleanse me with HYSSOP; wash me and I shall be whiter than snow.
Verse 50

His flesh shall be the sacrifice of cleansing.

Verse 53
The living bird is likened unto the scapegoat in Leviticus 16:8 (Az’azel)

Even though I know I see very little of the entire picture God is showing to me, this law has been uplifting to me, being a believer in Christ Jesus, knowing he continues to clean me up, when I confess my sinful nature. It helps me to see, and understand what dying daily means. May God bless you with these thoughts that are so deep and profound.

 

[BELIEVE]

dear sister karraster.

did you know dear sister that the word in Hebrew for feast means “ appointed time. “

how amazing god is to us all… for those who willingly wish to truly hear and to truly see god’s holy truth contained in his holy word.

feast of firstfruits

leviticus 23:9-14
9 And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying,
10 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When ye be come into the land which I give unto you, and shall reap the harvest thereof, then ye shall bring a sheaf of the firstfruits of your harvest unto the priest:
11 And he shall wave the sheaf before the Lord, to be accepted for you: on the morrow after the sabbath the priest shall wave it.
12 And ye shall offer that day when ye wave the sheaf an he lamb without blemish of the first year for a burnt offering unto the Lord.
13 And the meat offering thereof shall be two tenth deals of fine flour mingled with oil, an offering made by fire unto the Lord for a sweet savour: and the drink offering thereof shall be of wine, the fourth part of an hin.
14 And ye shall eat neither bread, nor parched corn, nor green ears, until the selfsame day that ye have brought an offering unto your God: it shall be a statute for ever throughout your generations in all your dwellings.



dueteronomy 26:9-10
9 And he hath brought us into this place, and hath given us this land, even a land that floweth with milk and honey.
10 And now, behold, I have brought the firstfruits of the land, which thou, O Lord, hast given me. And thou shalt set it before the Lord thy God, and worship before the Lord thy God:

so during this feast of firstfruits we see it is exactly after the sabbath; which is sunday; in which this feast was to occur making this day the 17th of nisan.



every one had to gather their firstfruits of their harvest... their crop... their fields... as an offering unto god.
another thing was that before the feast of firstfruits… the jews went out in to their own fields and watched ALL their fields… and when they found a firstfruit coming forth… it was tagged with a red cloth to mark that this was one of the firstfruits out of all the other fruits in the field.

these were the firstfruits to be gathered from all the self same seed of its own kind… for the feasts of firstfruits ceremony.

a small gathering was collected and once collected then the rest of the 7 fruits came into readiness later and were made sanctified by the sacrifice of the firstfruits themselves.

there was also to be a waving of the sheaf that was to be done by the priests in the temple in the morning hours on sunday the 17[SUP]th[/SUP] of nisan then you could use your crop for it was now sanctified.

there also had to be offered a male lamb without blemishes.

and along side with the burnt offering of the male lamb… a fine flour offering mingled with olive and a wine offering were also offered along side with the lamb unto god.

also when the 7 firstfruits were brought in; they were each placed with their own kind; placed into an individual basket for each of the 7 firstfruits.

these were the 7 firstfruits used described in dueteronomy 8:8.

dueteronomy 8:8
8 A land of wheat, and barley, and vines, and fig trees, and pomegranates; a land of oil olive, and honey;

the vines was grapes and dates were used instead of honey and here is why.

the 7 list of fruits below was copied and pasted here for a teaching purpose and all credit goes to wikipedeia.1. & 2. wheat and barley… the ancient israelites cultivated both wheat and barley. these two grains are mentioned first in the biblical list of the seven species of the land of Israel and their importance as food in ancient israelite cuisine is also seen in the celebration of the barley harvest at the festival of shavuot and of the wheat harvest at the festival of sukkot.

3. grapes… grapes were used mainly for the production of wine, although they were also eaten fresh and dried.

4. figs… figs were cultivated throughout the land of asrael and fresh or dried figs were part of the daily diet. a common way of preparing dried figs was to chop them and press them into a cake. figs are frequently mentioned in the bible (for example, 1 samuel 25:18, 1 samuel 30:12 and 1 chronicles 12:41.)

5. pomegranates… pomegranates were usually eaten fresh, although occasionally they were used to make juice or wine, or sun-dried for use when the fresh fruit was out of season. they probably played a minor part in israelite cuisine, but were symbolically important, as adornments on the hem of the robe of the high priest and the temple pillars, and embossed on coinage.

6. olives… the olive was a major element in the seven species. olive oil was used not only for food and for cooking, but also for lighting, sacrificial offerings, ointment, and anointment for priestly or royal office.

7. dates… dates were eaten fresh or dried, but were used mostly boiled into thick, long-lasting syrup called “date honey” (dvash temarim) for use as a sweetener. the honey in the biblical reference of “a land flowing with milk and honey” (for example, exod 3:8) is date honey. this feast lasted one day alone.

read next post below for comparision to our lord jesus christ... for the post was to long for one entire post...

god bless

 

[BELIEVE]

now lets compare this to our lord jesus christ.

1 corinthians 15:20 & 23
20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
so we see in god’s own holy word that our lord jesus christ was the firstfruits of us all.

james 1:18
18 Of His own will He brought us forth by the word of truth, that we might be a kind of firstfruits of His creatures.

so we are firstfruits by our lord jesus christ… but god made us firstfruits by his holy word before the foundation of the world.

this is shown throughout god’s holy word.

ephesians 1:4-14


chosen by the father

4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,

6 To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.
 


redeemed by the son


7 In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;

8 Wherein he hath abounded toward us in all wisdom and prudence;

9 Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself:

10 That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him:

11 In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will:

12 That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ.

 


sealed by the spirit

13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.



so we see here dear sister the true holy works done by god before all creation in each and everyone of us.

this is why some believe and some cannot… because god has made it so.

this is even shown in romans 8:28-30.

romans 8:28-30
28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.

this is god’s elect… god’s chosen children… god’s called out from among ALL THE FRUIT dear sister karraster before the fruits were brought forth.

my… my… my… yet many will disagree and yet this is from god himself in plain english for all to understand yet we change it and add to it.

yet even god warned us of this as well in his own holy word... as we see below.

2 thessalonians 2:10-14
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

1 timothy 4:1-2
Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;


but lets move on.

we see just as the firstfruits themselves were marked and pulled out from among their own kind and separated and taken to god’s holy temple… so are we… through the holy spirit… god’s holy word alive and living in us.

do you see the shadow and type here dear sister.

let’s look at 2 thessalonians 2:13-14 as well about god chosing us before all creation as the firstdruits among many fruits.

2 thessalonians 2:13-14
13 But we are bound to give thanks to God always for you, brethren beloved by the Lord, because God from the beginning chose you for salvation through sanctification by the Spirit and belief in the truth,
14 to which He called you by our gospel, for the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.

so we have three scriptures already that I have posted stating that god has chosen us among ALL FRUITS to be the firstfruits before all creation.

then why do we twist it and distort god’s holy truth dear sister.

this firstfruit should sound familiar dear sister for it parallels a parable that was spoken by our lord jesus christ himself that confirms this as well about god’s holy word.

matthew 25:1-13
Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom.
2 And five of them were wise, and five were foolish.
3 They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them:
4 But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps.
5 While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept.
6 And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.
7 Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps.
8 And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out.
9 But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves.
10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.
11 Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us.
12 But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.
13 Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man
cometh.

do you see it sister karraster… each of the 5 virgins ( 5 wise virgins and 5 foolish virgins ) both recognized the bridegroom but only the 5 wise virgins had the oil in their lamps and the 5 foolish virgins didn’t have oil in their lamps.

this is a shadow and type of christians having the holy spirit and those who do not.

and only those with the holy spirit went to the wedding feast and not the others for only the bride carried god’s holy truth to his holy word and the world shall not accept the bride and her message.

this is the bride that came out of the church body that had god’s holy truth but the world rejected them just as our lord jesus christ was rejected and stated even by our lord jesus christ in john 17:13-19…

john 17:1-19
13 And now come I to thee; and these things I speak in the world, that they might have my joy fulfilled in themselves.
14 I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
15 I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.
16 They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.
18 As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world.
19 And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth.


we see now that the bride carries god’s holy truth of his holy word… meaning… the bride has the wisdom, the knowledge, and the understanding of god’s holy word just as our lord jesus christ did yet the world and even other christians don’t won’t to hear it and reject it.

just as it was then with our lord jesus christ… so shall it be now.

so this feast of firstfruits is about our lord jesus christ being the true firstfruit of us all and the children of god himself before all creation being the firstfruit as well through our lord jesus christ.

A group of fruit chosen out of ALL OTHER FRUITS in its entirety.

And how do we know this to be true… lets look at two more scriptures of god’s own holy word.

ephesians 1:13
13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

and…

ephesians 2:10
10 For we are his workmanship ( creation ), created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained ( prepared ) that we should walk in them.

now lets look at leviticus 23:11-13… overlooked immensely by us followers of our lord jesus christ.

leviticus 23:10-12
10 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When ye be come into the land which I give unto you, and shall reap the harvest thereof, then ye shall bring a sheaf of the firstfruits of your harvest unto the priest:
11 And he shall wave the sheaf before the Lord, to be accepted for you: on the morrow after the sabbath the priest shall wave it.
12 And ye shall offer that day when ye wave the sheaf an he lamb without blemish of the first year for a burnt offering unto the Lord.

if you notice the above bold verse in leviticus … it states that… on the morrow after the sabbath the priest shall wave it… the Hebrew word for morrow is “ mochorath “ which means literally “ tomorrow, the next day, the day after “…

and we all know the sabbath is saturday… so therefore in plain english god himself is saying… on the ( day after, next day after ) the sabbath the priest shall wave the sheaf.

we also see there is a difference between the weekly sabbath and the holy convocation ( high sabbath ) just in wording and comparision alone... so there is no confusion what god himself is saying in his own holy word.

as we discussed in the feast of unleavened bread.

so if this is the case then it must go hand in hand with the resurrection of our lord jesus Christ as well.

which depicts a sunday morning resurrection… the first of the firstfruits. then our high priest waves us to god as the gathered seed of the firstfruits as well... by our lord jesus christ himself

in other words dear sister karraster… god was reconciling his children; the elect, the chosen, the called out before all creation; back to himself and not the world.

this is why our lord jesus christ prayed himself for all the true children of god to be reconciled back to god and stated this exact thing in john 17:1-26.

john 17:1-26
christ prays for himself
These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee:
2 As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.
3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
4 I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.
5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.



christ prays for his disciples
6 I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word.
7 Now they have known that all things whatsoever thou hast given me are of thee.
8 For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me.
9 I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine.
10 And all mine are thine, and thine are mine; and I am glorified in them.
11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.
12 While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.
13 And now come I to thee; and these things I speak in the world, that they might have my joy fulfilled in themselves.
14 I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
15 I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.
16 They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.
18 As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world.
19 And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth.



christ prays for all believers
20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;
21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.
24 Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.
25 O righteous Father, the world hath not known thee: but I have known thee, and these have known that thou hast sent me.
26 And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare it: that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them.

have you not ever wondered why our lord jesus christ prayed 3 prayers?

He prays 3 prayers because he is the firstfruit of us all… then he prays for those god has chosen before all creation as his true children separated and called out from among the rest of the fruit body ( bride ) as the firstfruits among humanity… and lastly this prayer was directed to the rest of the fruit body ( church body ).

do you see it dear sister karraster?

this is why the separation and different beliefs… for only the elect has the holy spirit as shown in matthew 25:1-13 as the parable clearly shows us of the ten virgins.

and only the bride carries god’s holy truth of his holy word as stated by god himself and his holy word… and there is no exception and it does matter… that’s why we let god speak and reveal his holy word to us so that we may see, we may hear, and that we may understand god’s holy word ( message ) and give it to the world just as our lord jesus christ did as well.

ephesians 2:10
10 For we are his workmanship ( creation ), created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained ( prepared ) that we should walk in them.

so we see exactly how this all ties in to our lord jesus christ dear sister karraster in every way to the feast of firstfruits.

sorry dear sister… this one was a little harder too write for I didn’t know what to say or write and I was distracted a lot and I needed god to help me and give his message that you needed for yourself for edification and an understanding of this feast for it is important that we see and hear.

god bless dear sister karraster…

 

[Karraster]

Just-me and BELIEVE, thank you both so much for the kind attention you've both shown in your posts!

Indeed there is so much to learn about the Father and His heart and ways by steadily keeping our minds on His instructions for His people. It's why I appreciate these posts so much, because I lack understanding of so many symbols used, and the meaning of it. Blessed are they who have a part in the first resurrection, they are the first fruits of the redeemed. Kinda gets my attention, I want to be in that crowd! So to understand this shadow of things to come, can only serve to deepen the understanding of what our Father's will is. And isn't that the point? To be pleasing in His sight?

These are His Holy Convocations. They are His feasts. (appointments)
In Hebrew, the word “convocation” means “miqra”, spoken as “Mik-raw” (Strong’s concordance number 4744). In Hebrew, this word means “rehearsal”. What does the word rehearsal mean? Rehearsal is defined as “the act of practicing in preparation for an event".

So these are appointments on God's calendar for our rehearsals of things both past, and things to come. Things to come, ought to make everyone who believes want to consider these shadows of things to come.

We know that Messiah is the sacrificed Lamb once and for all. The blood of animals saves no one! That does not negate the importance of the Holy Word. How can we love Him, if we care nothing about understanding Him, or His Word?

 

[weakness]

Just-me and BELIEVE, thank you both so much for the kind attention you've both shown in your posts!

Indeed there is so much to learn about the Father and His heart and ways by steadily keeping our minds on His instructions for His people. It's why I appreciate these posts so much, because I lack understanding of so many symbols used, and the meaning of it. Blessed are they who have a part in the first resurrection, they are the first fruits of the redeemed. Kinda gets my attention, I want to be in that crowd! So to understand this shadow of things to come, can only serve to deepen the understanding of what our Father's will is. And isn't that the point? To be pleasing in His sight?

These are His Holy Convocations. They are His feasts. (appointments)
In Hebrew, the word “convocation” means “miqra”, spoken as “Mik-raw” (Strong’s concordance number 4744). In Hebrew, this word means “rehearsal”. What does the word rehearsal mean? Rehearsal is defined as “the act of practicing in preparation for an event".

So these are appointments on God's calendar for our rehearsals of things both past, and things to come. Things to come, ought to make everyone who believes want to consider these shadows of things to come.

We know that Messiah is the sacrificed Lamb once and for all. The blood of animals saves no one! That does not negate the importance of the Holy Word. How can we love Him, if we care nothing about understanding Him, or His Word?[/QUOTE I was just reading were Paul quoting the law thou shall not mussel the ox that treads out the grain , and referred it to misters receiving pay for there work or Christians partaking of salvation for working in the gospel. Also the priest's that sacrifice at the alter are partakers of the alter. Or who goeth to warfare of his own expenses, or that we should plow in hope that we would partake of the harvest. These are all shadows in the law of the spiritual now and hereafter. They ,the shadows are very detailed in even small matters , and in large one like feast's .It is soaked in the testimony of Jesus and his kingdom

 

[Josh321]

What a wonderful message Believe.. and every word of it is the truth, thank you for that

 

[just-me]

So let’s compare the first month of Nisan with the seventh month of Tishri, and the ministry of Christ Jesus to see the similarities. In Exodus 12:2-3 God says “This month shall be unto you the beginning of months: it shall be the first month of the year to you. Speak ye unto all the congregation of Israel, saying, In the tenth day of this month they shall take to them every man a lamb, according to the house of their fathers, a lamb for an house:” In this passage we see the first day of the first month counting nine days that proceed the tenth day that is mentioned. We can safely say that it would have taken nine days to relay this message throughout all of Israel, and arrange for each family to have access to a lamb of the first year by sorting the flocks, and searching for any blemish. Now in Leviticus 23:24 we read “Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, In the seventh month, in the first day of the month, shall ye have a sabbath, a memorial of blowing of trumpets, an holy convocation” ending with the completion of the nine days as we continue on to read the first part of verse 27 that says “Also on the tenth day of this seventh month there shall be a day of atonement.” Now to compare this, one can read from Matthew chapter 18 through Matthew 23:37 and we see a call from Jesus ending with these words. “ O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!” This also can be understood as a nine-day period, calling the Jews unto repentance.

So to consolidate the meaning in all three of these occurrences I first looked into what the number nine means in the Hebrew spiritual culture. These first nine days of the first and seventh month are related to the “fruit of the Spirit,” and divine completeness from the Father. With the exception of the goat to cover the sins of he people, these offerings were separated from themselves, and used according to the will of God. As a foreshadow of things to come, Jesus, the patriarchs, and all of God’s children were to be separated daily from the world’s values they were born into, and used according to His purpose.

Numbers 29:1-5 (KJV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP]And in the seventh month, on the first day of the month, ye shall have an holy convocation; ye shall do no servile work: it is a day of blowing the trumpets unto you.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]And ye shall offer a burnt offering for a sweet savour unto the LORD; one young bullock, one ram, and seven lambs of the first year without blemish:
[SUP]3 [/SUP]And their meat offering shall be of flour mingled with oil, three tenth deals for a bullock, and two tenth deals for a ram,
[SUP]4 [/SUP]And one tenth deal for one lamb, throughout the seven lambs:
[SUP]5 [/SUP]And one kid of the goats for a sin offering, to make an atonement for you:

There are two scripture references that come to mind as I think about what these offerings are representing concerning the church. One is in Romans 12:1-2, relating to sacrifice, and the other in 2 Corinthians 6:17-18 relating to being separated according to our Father’s will. These are the verses. “I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service. And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God. Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you, And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.” Further, we must keep in mind the reason for this ninth day “get together”, concerning “convocation”, and “no servile work” as we read in Numbers 29:1. In short, a convocation is to enlighten people of the reason they are coming together, understanding that as God was true to His promises in the past, He would also make good on His future promises, even if they didn’t know how that would come to pass. It was also a time to cease from self-works. Let’s compare this with scripture from the New Testament, in Romans 14:19, Hebrews 4:10, and Hebrews 13:16. “Let us therefore follow after the things which make for peace, and things wherewith one may edify another. For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his. But to do good and to communicate forget not: for with such sacrifices God is well pleased.”

 

[just-me]

Now to compare this, one can read from Matthew chapter 18 through Matthew 23:37 and we see a call from Jesus ending with these words. “ O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!” This also can be understood as a nine-day period, calling the Jews unto repentance.

The time sequence is wrong from the previous post. The ending of the nine days is the last part of chapter 20 is depicting a large crowd that was following Jesus. Reading from chapter 13 through chapter 20 in Matthew would be a good example of the first 9 days of the month. Matthew 21:1 is the tenth day of the month. Scripture doesn't tell us what Jesus did during the first nine days of the first month. All it tells us is people gathered around Him and followed Him before He entered into Jerusalem. Please forgive me for this error.

 

[just-me]

Why are the feasts important to a minority of people, and not important to the majority?

John 5:1 (KJV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP]After this there was a feast of the Jews; and Jesus went up to Jerusalem.
John 7:2-3 (KJV)
[SUP]2 [/SUP]Now the Jews' feast of tabernacles was at hand.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]His brethren therefore said unto him, Depart hence, and go into Judaea, that thy disciples also may see the works that thou doest.
John 7:14-17 (KJV)
[SUP]14 [/SUP]Now about the midst of the feast Jesus went up into the temple, and taught.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]And the Jews marvelled, saying, How knoweth this man letters, having never learned?
[SUP]16 [/SUP]Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.
[SUP]17 [/SUP]If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.

 

[Karraster]

Why are the feasts important to a minority of people, and not important to the majority?

John 5:1 (KJV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP]After this there was a feast of the Jews; and Jesus went up to Jerusalem.
John 7:2-3 (KJV)
[SUP]2 [/SUP]Now the Jews' feast of tabernacles was at hand.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]His brethren therefore said unto him, Depart hence, and go into Judaea, that thy disciples also may see the works that thou doest.
John 7:14-17 (KJV)
[SUP]14 [/SUP]Now about the midst of the feast Jesus went up into the temple, and taught.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]And the Jews marvelled, saying, How knoweth this man letters, having never learned?
[SUP]16 [/SUP]Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.
[SUP]17 [/SUP]If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.

Good post and thanks Just-me. You are right, very few care to learn about the Feasts. The campaign to eradicate them goes way back. They have been replaced by pagan holidays (holy days). Looks like 2 different events are being rehearsed for. Yikes! So glad my Maker opened my eyes to this! All praise glory and worship to the Almighty!! forever and ever

 

[just-me]

Good post and thanks Just-me. You are right, very few care to learn about the Feasts. The campaign to eradicate them goes way back. They have been replaced by pagan holidays (holy days). Looks like 2 different events are being rehearsed for. Yikes! So glad my Maker opened my eyes to this! All praise glory and worship to the Almighty!! forever and ever

I just finished studying the feast of tabernacles, and it compares with the walk of salvation. How wonderful the things I have found. hope to post some of those things on this thread shortly.

 

[Karraster]

I just finished studying the feast of tabernacles, and it compares with the walk of salvation. How wonderful the things I have found. hope to post some of those things on this thread shortly.

Hey, that's great! I look forward to it! I've learned so much from studying the feast. I want to love the things that Yah loves and hate the things He hates, get any foolish notions out of my head and silly hollow and worthless customs.

I want to learn all I can and pass it on, so thank you so much for all you contribute!!

 

[just-me]

Hey, that's great! I look forward to it! I've learned so much from studying the feast. I want to love the things that Yah loves and hate the things He hates, get any foolish notions out of my head and silly hollow and worthless customs.

I want to learn all I can and pass it on, so thank you so much for all you contribute!!

Several things I have noticed outside of not using the Gregorian calendar. There are only 3 major feasts that Israel was instructed to keep in the ordinances given to Moses. The other major thing is that Nisan/Abib was the first month of the year unlike the Jewish tradition today that says the new year starts on the first day of Tishri/Ethanim. According to the Bible Tishri/Ethanim is the seventh month which is the month of trumpets, atonement, and the Feast of Tabernacles.

1 Kings 8:2 (KJV)
[SUP]2 [/SUP]And all the men of Israel assembled themselves unto king Solomon at the feast in the month Ethanim, which is the seventh month.

Esther 3:7 (KJV)
[SUP]7 [/SUP]In the first month, that is, the month Nisan, in the twelfth year of king Ahasuerus, they cast Pur, that is, the lot, before Haman from day to day, and from month to month, to the twelfth month, that is, the month Adar.

Deuteronomy 16:16 (KJV)
[SUP]16 [/SUP]Three times in a year shall all thy males appear before the LORD thy God in the place which he shall choose; in the feast of unleavened bread, and in the feast of weeks, and in the feast of tabernacles: and they shall not appear before the LORD empty:

Exodus 23:14-16 (KJV)
[SUP]14 [/SUP]Three times thou shalt keep a feast unto me in the year.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]Thou shalt keep the feast of unleavened bread: (thou shalt eat unleavened bread seven days, as I commanded thee, in the time appointed of the month Abib; for in it thou camest out from Egypt: and none shall appear before me empty
[SUP]16 [/SUP]And the feast of harvest, the firstfruits of thy labours, which thou hast sown in the field: and the feast of ingathering, which is in the end of the year, when thou hast gathered in thy labours out of the field.

 

[Karraster]

The institution of the Feast of Purim is found the book of Esther. It is the only non-Levitical feast that is commanded to be observed or celebrated - the book itself tells us - "these days should be remembered and celebrated throughout every generation... these days of Purim should not fail (or pass away) .. or their memory fail from their descendants (Esther 9:28)
We read in (Esther 9:27) that this celebration is not just for the Jewish people, but for "all those who allied themselves with them...".
In other words God's word tells us to remember what He did during the times of Esther - and apply it to our own lives.


I'm studying Esther right now. If Haman had gotten his way, the Jewish people for the most part, would have been exterminated. Interesting prophesy of Esther was fulfilled after WW11, of hanging the 10 war criminals, but that's getting off topic I suppose.