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Dec 21, 2012
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actually most christians realize that this stuff isn't 'knowledge' at all...just paranoid imagination and severe self delusion...
That's exactly what the Illuminati want us to believe...

[video=youtube;PxH0EUbmV_o]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxH0EUbmV_o[/video]
 
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GaryA

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This short video is a good introduction to a very informative book...


[video=youtube;SWK1loDYAw8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWK1loDYAw8[/video]
 
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GaryA

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1. I want to note something on this Illuminati modern phenomenon. I personally do not like ascribing so many things to the so-called Illuminati. For one, yes the Illuminati was a real secret society that was wiped out and reincorporated into freemasonry. Secondly, the more modern concept of the "Illuminati" has become moreso a blanket term for some shadow world government. This is in fact not true as there are hundreds, if not thousands, of secret societies in the world, almost all of which are competing directly against one another. I believe many secret societies themselves promote the Illuminati Conspiracy as a means to distract and throw people off their path, sow fear, and even to recruit people.
The blanket comment is somewhat true. It is also true that most of the secret societies in the world are interconnected. Yes, there is a lot of competition and fighting - even among the 13 family bloodlines ( which operate the 'core' of the illuminati ) --- however, the important thing to remember is that Satan is ultimately running all of it from the top...

Imagine a pie - cut into slices. Each slice roughly resembles a triangle, except that - because the pie is round - the bottom of the triangle is rounded instead of straight. The different slices, or triangles, represent the various "secret society" organizations. At the center of the pie - at the top of each 'triangle' - is Satan. He controls each of the organizations from the top. As you move from the center of the pie toward the outer edge of the pie, you descend further down an organization - from top to bottom. The outer-edge 'crust' of each slice is the group of members who know virtually nothing about what is really going on at the top. From their perspective, [ at least ] most of the interconnections between adjacent slices also cannot be seen.

Because of the common link -- Satan -- who is the "causal agent" and "fomenter" of it all -- it all tends to work in a more unified fashion than that which may readily be seen from any not-at-the-center-of-the-pie vantage point.
 
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GaryA

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All one must do is look and question.
Do not underestimate just how much this simple approach can help you to discover the real truth about the world you live in...


Awareness + Open Eyes + Common Sense + Discernment =>

"The ability to step outside the MATRIX and see it for yourself..."

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Angela53510

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OK. So you are saying the next time a butterfly, esp. a Monarch flies into my garden, I should strike it down and kill it, because it is part of some weird conspiracy??

This place gets nuttier all the time! God created the butterfly and no amount of trying to make it evil is going to make me kill butterflies.

I think we should just read the Bible and follow Jesus.

Are you people really this naive?
 
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IMO the falling away isn't just lacking spiritual knowledge; much of it is the well-learned of the church having no understanding of the times. They may have degrees & years of experience, but cannot look at these last days we're in & connect the dots between the plans of the wicked & Bible prophecy. They say all this wickedness has nothing to do with prophecy....it's just wickednedness.
It's time for the church to wake up out of their slumber & realize that the Devil has a plan for man too......& it's in motion. It's setting the stage for the Antichrist.
 
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Proverbs 4:5-13 (KJV) [SUP]5 [/SUP]Get wisdom, get understanding: forget it not; neither decline from the words of my mouth. [SUP]6 [/SUP]Forsake her not, and she shall preserve thee: love her, and she shall keep thee. [SUP]7 [/SUP]Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding. [SUP]8 [/SUP]Exalt her, and she shall promote thee: she shall bring thee to honour, when thou dost embrace her. [SUP]9 [/SUP]She shall give to thine head an ornament of grace: a crown of glory shall she deliver to thee. [SUP]10 [/SUP]Hear, O my son, and receive my sayings; and the years of thy life shall be many. [SUP]11 [/SUP]I have taught thee in the way of wisdom; I have led thee in right paths. [SUP]12 [/SUP]When thou goest, thy steps shall not be straitened; and when thou runnest, thou shalt not stumble. [SUP]13 [/SUP]Take fast hold of instruction; let her not go: keep her; for she is thy life.

Knowledge does not get the job done by itself. IMO, this is where the church is failing. Many are only wise in their own conceits.

Romans 11:25 (KJV) [SUP]25 [/SUP]For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

Sometimes I wonder if a similar thing has happened to the modern church.
 
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GaryA

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OK. So you are saying the next time a butterfly, esp. a Monarch flies into my garden, I should strike it down and kill it, because it is part of some weird conspiracy??

This place gets nuttier all the time! God created the butterfly and no amount of trying to make it evil is going to make me kill butterflies.
Who said anything about killing butterflies?

There is nothing evil about butterflies [ themselves ]. They are indeed one of the beautiful creatures that God made. The evil exists in the hearts and minds of men and women who have found a way to utilize the image of a butterfly for an evil purpose.

There is no suggestion whatsoever-at-all that you should kill any butterflies.

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GaryA

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I have a question that I would like to ask any and all who are willing to participate with an honest answer...

I would make a poll thread out of this question; except, providing possible answers to choose from would actually taint the results.

In order not to taint anyone else's answer -- do not post your answer, but rather - PM it to me.

In order not to taint your own answer -- do not research the question, but rather - just give an immediate first-impression honest answer.

If you already have any specific knowledge about what the answer should be -- do not answer. The results need to reflect the first-impression response of people.

I promise to post a tally of the answers - without any user names, just answers and numbers - after a reasonable collection sample has been had.

Please be patient and do not post anything concerning this question until my tally report is given.

Thanks.

Scroll down to see the question.

























The question is:

What do you see when you look at the symbol at the end of the current Walmart Logo?
What is your first impression?
What are you looking at?



View attachment 70558


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So far only two answers have been given --- and they are different...

Anyone else want to add their first impression to the data pool?

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posthuman

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there are three basic kinds of line-shapes: straight lines, incomplete arcs, and closed curves.
of the three primary colors, red has been shown to have the most significant attention-grabbing effect on humans.

how sinister is it that red arcs and circles are common in advertising? professional advertising and marketing people spend their lives coming up with the most efficient way to get peoples attention and focus.

advertising is insidious, to be sure, but its methodology is no shock to anyone educated in art and design and cognizant of the ulterior motives of for-profit organizations, or any other organization seeking prominence in the mind of the public.
 
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GaryA

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there are three basic kinds of line-shapes: straight lines, incomplete arcs, and closed curves.
An incomplete circle is an arc. There is no such thing as an incomplete arc. ;)

A curve is an arc. A closed curve is a circle.


of the three primary colors, red has been shown to have the most significant attention-grabbing effect on humans.
True. So, based on this:

Why is just the 'o' in the Schlotzskys logo red? Why not the capital letter 'S' instead? It is a larger letter, and not to mention, the first letter of the name. Why not the 'z'? Why is the whole name not red?

What about Mobil? Why the 'o'? Why not the 'M'? Why not the whole name?

I could ask similar questions about an untold number of company logos.


how sinister is it that red arcs and circles are common in advertising? professional advertising and marketing people spend their lives coming up with the most efficient way to get peoples attention and focus.
I see them mostly on company logos -- and, on signs - that specifically identify an organization -- not so much as general markings on the average miscellaneous tapestry of advertising.

Also, they are TOO common. For years now...

Anyone who is "worth their salt" in advertising does not hang on to the same concept for years on end while it floods the world scenery with increasing acceleration and density. Instead, they try to find other new and interesting concepts that may be used to create an image of uniqueness - not the kind of "same-ness" that is present "at every turn" in the world today by the proliferate use of these symbols everywhere.

And, if it serves to destroy the uniqueness of the image of everyone who uses these symbols in their logo -- why the increasing acceleration and density?

Why?

Because the symbols are being used to transmit something about the identity of the organization - to those who would understand what it means...


advertising is insidious, to be sure, but its methodology is no shock to anyone educated in art and design and cognizant of the ulterior motives of for-profit organizations, or any other organization seeking prominence in the mind of the public.
I understand what you are saying; however, I do not believe that such a proliferation exists simply because of "art and design"...

There has to be a whole lot more to it than simply drawing the attention of an onlooker...


If the effect of using these symbols in advertising is so great - that everyone on the planet is using it - to the point of flooding the whole planet with it --- then, wow --- there is a whole new conspiracy idea... :eek:

:rolleyes:

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GaryA

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So far only two answers have been given --- and they are different...

Anyone else want to add their first impression to the data pool?
"If this thread was in another forum, I would have 385 answers by now..."

Is this 'telling'...?

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GaryA

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I promise to post a tally of the answers - without any user names, just answers and numbers - after a reasonable collection sample has been had.
OK - as promised - here are the results:

2 people gave an answer

"fireworks (celebration) or similar..."

"Six part Sun Ray..."
 
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KittenofMelchisedek

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#77
I just laughed so hard at myself, that I got angry, then when I typed that it made me think of that video and I cracked up again. =)
This thread rocks!

No really though, it's very serious, and most people can't imagine the enemy wanting to do anything terrible, they literally can't imagine anything worse than what has already happened.

It's the black horse.

Oh someone asked how they get victims, let me just say....
you don't need to be repeatedly traumatized, it actually works much better on some than you might expect, and many people are traumatized anyway. A lot of people say that people are routinely and ritually abused by these people, but that may only reflect the people at the very top. At the very bottom there are people who just happen to be abused at a young age and receive programming in the course of childhood and adolescence. Also at a very basic level, everyone has trauma, and everyone in our culture is influenced by society (obviously I'm exaggerating, but only a tiny bit) .
While I know there are places, like the mickey mouse club, which seem to be programming sites for elite youth, it is society that makes it all possible, and everyone who is plugged into culture will engage in the behavior that they were programmed in themselves. Not everyone is programmed to be a sex slave, not everyone would be suited for that. Consumption seems to be the biggest one. Anyone can be materialistic.
 
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KittenofMelchisedek

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Plus, it's the principle that the enemy can tell us what he wants to do, and people think we're making it up...then he goes and does it and it's coincidence, and so he just does worse and worse stuff in front of our faces until it's like ok their hypnotized and distracted.....

I don't know what follows, but I think we're going to find out really soon.
 
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danalee

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OK. So you are saying the next time a butterfly, esp. a Monarch flies into my garden, I should strike it down and kill it, because it is part of some weird conspiracy??

This place gets nuttier all the time! God created the butterfly and no amount of trying to make it evil is going to make me kill butterflies.

I think we should just read the Bible and follow Jesus.

Are you people really this naive?

No, no, you first must understand that Satan wants to be God, so he uses all of God's most beautiful symbols and corrupts them and uses them against us. The monarch is known for its ability to always know where to return home to mate, have you seen them in the Mexican mountains? They drape the trees in the most glorious scene. Satan has used Monarch as the name for sex slaves, meaning the trainers merely have to say a color and the victim will return to the state of subconscious mind the trainer wants them in. I have worked with victims of SRA, and had dissociative illness. A child who is tormented will dissociate, this is a natural protective mechanism, in this state, a trained hypnotist can place programming in a compartmental way. For abuse victims not associated with programming, we call this illness DID, or dissociative identity disorder. The child will have a different personalities that developed during trauma that have different duties, a protector, a saboteur, an infant etc. The programmers (working for? cults? dark sections of the CIA? I can't say that I know but I know it happens) have learned to implant their own personalities and they name them, associate them with colors, symbols etc. so they can access them at a later date. Monarch victims are sexual slaves. I frequent a site where many DID victims have wrote stories of being programmed, some were sold by parents to trainers, some were born into families where this was practiced. The site is real, and I've had many chats with some of these woman, it's very sad. The symbolism is a nefarious ploy of Satan to hijack God's best symbols. So for us, we remember the butterfly as a symbol of our ability to always return to our Father, as he lovingly reminds us through the Monarch.
 
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danalee

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I just laughed so hard at myself, that I got angry, then when I typed that it made me think of that video and I cracked up again. =)
This thread rocks!

No really though, it's very serious, and most people can't imagine the enemy wanting to do anything terrible, they literally can't imagine anything worse than what has already happened.

It's the black horse.

Oh someone asked how they get victims, let me just say....
you don't need to be repeatedly traumatized, it actually works much better on some than you might expect, and many people are traumatized anyway. A lot of people say that people are routinely and ritually abused by these people, but that may only reflect the people at the very top. At the very bottom there are people who just happen to be abused at a young age and receive programming in the course of childhood and adolescence. Also at a very basic level, everyone has trauma, and everyone in our culture is influenced by society (obviously I'm exaggerating, but only a tiny bit) .
While I know there are places, like the mickey mouse club, which seem to be programming sites for elite youth, it is society that makes it all possible, and everyone who is plugged into culture will engage in the behavior that they were programmed in themselves. Not everyone is programmed to be a sex slave, not everyone would be suited for that. Consumption seems to be the biggest one. Anyone can be materialistic.
I just wrote about this, we are all subject to this style of programming through the media. It's this whole process of creating states of fear, and people are more easily suggestible. We should all be aware. That's why there are a lot of bible verses that allude to not being afraid. It's to protect us from states of vulnerability. It's super hard to do that, I'm afraid. Naturally I'm a curious and intellectual person, I'm starting to feel like eating from the tree of knowledge is God's analogy of unveiling Satan's kingdom in it's full effect. I know too much, it's overwhelming. I'm going to take a vacation from it very soon. LOL