MODERN CHRISTIANS WORSHIPPING THEIR HEATHEN GODS--by tossing out the 7th Day Sabbath

[homwardbound]

One last thing. Do not forget that Jesus said:

Matthew 7:14 Matthew 7:13-15


[SUP]13 [/SUP]Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
[SUP]14 [/SUP]Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.


MANY go in the broad way, in other words the MAJORITY.

FEW go the right way.

So its not like you take a VOTE and if the MAJORITY of Christianity today believes a certain way, that makes it true. It does not work like that.

So what was the purpose of Jesus coming to earth here to do? And why did he go to the cross? what was the purpose? Why did he not fight back as what this world does?

 

[biscuit]

Thanks for telling who you are.

There is really no excuse to waste time on reading a '25,000' word post when it can be done in 250-300 words.

 

[homwardbound]

Sorry, but COMPASSION does not include blatantly transgressing the Law of God.

And its always humorous when people who claim that the Old Testament Law has been abolished try to use the Old Testament verses to do it LOL!

Come on, you can do better than THAT. That verse WAS THERE when God's people were told to keep His Commandments. Stop trying to pit one thing against the other.

We CAN actually have LOVE and keep the LAW at the same time.

That's the problem, most Christians are so blind to this concept. They don't even realize that the LAW and LOVE are the same identical thing.

Romans 13:8-10
8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.

9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

11 And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed.

You don't go claiming to LOVE God and to LOVE your neighbour when you bow to graven images, take the Lord's name in vain, break the Sabbath, worship other gods, steal from your neighbour, kill your neighbour, and commit adultery with your neighbour.

That's the problem, todays Christians are so blind, they don't even know the BASICS of real Christianity.

That's WHY Jesus said the Religious Leaders of HIS day, tithed mint and rue but neglected the weightier matters of the Law like love, kindness, compassion, then He added that we should do the one and not leave the other UNDONE. DO BOTH. Jesus did BOTH. He attended Church on Sabbath AND had compassion. What a concept!

Love is the greatest commandment and is fulfilled in Christ. By the cross first the death, then the burial as proof of that death in order to bring in the covenant of Love. Then the resurrection from and by Father in the Spirit of Father to be led by Father just as Christ was led by Father in all he did and or said, this is the new life under and in the order of Melchizedek:
[h=3]Hebrews 7:11-12[/h]Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

[SUP]11 [/SUP]If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron? [SUP]12 [/SUP]For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.

Christ was not from the tribe of Levi either and no priest was ever to come from any other tribe according to Law, and yet Moses spoke of Christ coming and we are to listen to Christ
We are in a new covenant after the death:

[h=3]Hebrews 9:15-17[/h]Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

[SUP]15 [/SUP]And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance. [SUP]16 [/SUP]For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator. [SUP]17 [/SUP]For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.

So the letter of the Law and the Spirit of grace can't be mixed, just like oil and water can't mix
Oil and water can be to appear to mix by mixing it up in a glass, yet every time when all things settle down they separate
Just like one can't put new wine in old wine skins, the wine skins burst and the new wine is lost
Now the grace new covenant where all sins are done away with is not to be: or:

Hebrews 2:3
how shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him;

Christ is not an escape goat, rather a discerner of truth and has given us a gift to walk as walked in dependence on Father, but this can't be done without believing this first:
[h=3]Colossians 1:22[/h]Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

[SUP]22 [/SUP]in the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight:

 

[homwardbound]

Then see: all of Col 1 read it slowly

 

[homwardbound]

I make no apologies for plainly stating the truth.

That is what I was called to do.

Isaiah 58:1


58 Cry aloud, spare not, lift up thy voice like a trumpet, and shew my people their transgression, and the house of Jacob their sins.



Ezekiel 33:5-7
[SUP]5 [/SUP]He heard the sound of the trumpet, and took not warning; his blood shall be upon him. But he that taketh warning shall deliver his soul.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]But if the watchman see the sword come, and blow not the trumpet, and the people be not warned; if the sword come, and take any person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at the watchman's hand.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]So thou, O son of man, I have set thee a watchman unto the house of Israel; therefore thou shalt hear the word at my mouth, and warn them from me.

I might be wrong but it seems you are a little arrogant over humility, you decide and all is well with my Soul. For I am at rest 24/7, Jesus is my sabbath rest and thanks for all you input

 

[IDEAtor]

The original post and the related video say some great things.
The original post, however, comes across as
judgmental rather than informational.


Question: Can the original poster please define, in one sentence,
what dictionary is used for using ''legalistic'' in the following statement?
"...the ones who are TRULY legalistic, but they dont realize that."
Here is one place for definition of said term: Legalistic | Define Legalistic at Dictionary.com
Here is what it says: adherence to letter of law: strict adherence to a literal interpretation of a law, rule, or religious or moral code. Now, if the original poster is using a similar understanding of the word,
it might be premature to write at length against people that "don't realize that."
Jesus said, "Forgive them for they know not what they do."

Which is worse, a child who accidentally drops a plate, or an adult who throws one to break it?
The tone of the post contradicts the intent of the original poster.
Regardless of intent, the original post is unfriendly in tone.

Again, the original post does have great points.

 

[ClaudiaT]

Someone wanted to know about my website addresses I posted here... and actually I posted different ones. So I am just going to leave these addresses here for anyone who wants them (and now I am really done!) :

My website about the New Age Movement, Freemasonry and the Catholic Connection:
Religious Counterfeits -Spiritual insights into the dangers of the New Age and the New World Order.

My two website templates sites:
You Are Free To Choose |countrymanordesigns.com Website Templates
Web Design - Website Templates

My video about why we still have to keep the 10 Commandment Law:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xF0lsL5b7mc

And then you can watch my Video which explains what is the Mark of the Beast. It has something to do with the False Sabbath... find out what!
https://vimeo.com/29214720

Scroll down and watch "The Crime of all Ages" by Professor Walter Veith to find out WHY the change of the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday is so important (you can actually go back and watch the entire Total Onslaught series by him too) :
Browse Media - Total Onslaught - English - Amazing Discoveries TV

Click this link to learn how the 7th Day Sabbath was changed to Sunday the 1st Day of the Week, and why!
The Seventh Day Part 2 | Sabbath Truth
When you get done watching this video, if you would like to watch the Series, click here:
Seventh Day Video Series | Sabbath Truth

 

[ClaudiaT]

Okay. Now I am really actually really really done now. so goodbye for real now... honest

 

[Plowman]

Gal 5:4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.

 

[homwardbound]

This is the true commands of God, and the others are just branches. Every time a person doesn't do these commands, they will be doing what Eve has done by not obeying.

Romans 13:9
The commandments, “You shall not commit adultery,” “You shall not murder,” “You shall not steal,” “You shall not covet,” and whatever other command there may be, are summed up in this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.”

1 Corinthians 7:10
To the married I give this command (not I, but the Lord): A wife must not separate from her husband.

Ephesians 2:15
by setting aside in his flesh the law with its commands and regulations. His purpose was to create in himself one new humanity out of the two, thus making peace,

1 John 3:23
And this is his command: to believe in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, and to love one another as he commanded us.

1 John 4:21
And he has given us this command: Anyone who loves God must also love their brother and sister.

Does not sin take occasion by the Commandment? I mean when I was growing up, I was told to stay in my room. So what did I want to do,? Sneak out escape? Once I knew the Law and found out it made me aware of sin and yet by it because of unredeemed flesh I sinned all the more, until I saw this sinfulness that I could not keep from and turned it all over to God through Christ, and sincw then he has done what I could never do of and in my unredeemed flesh, therefore by the death at the cross I reckon that is my death daily to slef and see the new life daily in the Spirit of God, thanks to God' amazing gift through Son's finished work at the cross for all those that decide to believe God loves us that much to appreciate, never take it for granted

 

[homwardbound]

This is why so many of us christians are confused. Sometimes you need to read more than one verse to get the context of the scripture and not just pick one verse to try and prove your fellow brother or sister wrong. Colossians 2:14-17 is talking about ceremonial laws, it tells us that in verse 14, 17, and 20. The ordinances, ceremonial laws which included animal sacrifice were nailed to the cross not the ten commandments. They were a foreshadow of Jesus Christ, an example. That is why they ceased when Jesus was crucified.
I thought this site was for the studying and discussion of God's Word by christians and those wanting to be christians, but their are a lot of people that get offended when the truth is presented or they treat this as some competition trying to out perform one another. We should be here seeking the truth, finding answers. Egos have no place in the discussion and edification of God's word. Yes some of us, go to churches or have beliefs that are not biblical, but when the truth is presented you should accept it and stop worrying about offending people. You and you alone will answer for you sins. Most christians do have the Pharisee attitude-rather do tradition and doctrine of men but not follow the commandments of God.

1 Corinthians 7:39 The wife is bound by the law as long as her husband liveth; but if her husband be dead, she is at liberty to be married to whom she will; only in the Lord.
James 1:25 But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.
James 2:12 So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.
Romans 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
1 Corinthians 15:56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.






1 Corinthians 15:55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?
1 Corinthians 15:56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.

Keep mixing it and not see through to the other side and walk not in truth, the Spirit of truth God.
No flesh works please God, only flesh that ever pleased God is Christ Jesus. It is finished we are on this side of the cross after the resurrected Christ in the Spirit we are to get new life a gift from God through Son, this is too simple to appreciate and not use for an excuse, yet it is and I do not know who is who in this misuse of, yet each of us individually do. for one to continue in sin in misuse, does not know nor have been revealed the truth, as well as those under Law are still under the curse of the Law, not the Law itself, for the Law itself is Holy, rather because of the unredeemed flesh we are still in, we sin not being in Spirit where there is no condemnation at all. So let us rather be delivered through the resurrected Christ


And walk as he walked 100% dependent on Father through the leading of the Spirit of God. Did he not send this to us to walk in Love God's type best described in 1 Cor. 13:4-13

 

[homwardbound]

Okay. Now I am really actually really really done now. so goodbye for real now... honest

So does God accept me if I do not do the Sabbath day? as on Friday sundown to Saturday sundown?

 

[JaumeJ]

I like what you have to say.

As for people citing how the majority , that is, the Christians around the world are wrong as evidencing some valid argument about the OP. Where is it written the children of the Most High God have a vote?

Do these Christians around the world believe anything the Savior teaches. He teaches before He returns apostasy will abound.

He was not kidding, He was not mistaken, and He surely was not lying, so who is it with their heads in the sand? Answer this, those of you who believe the Great Whore and her Daughters are not apostasy personified.

But anyway, good bye, I know when I am not wanted. I can only pray that some of you see the light some day.

 

[Jay1]

Where is bible scripture for that?

 

[Jay1]

You are misinterpreting the scriptures. The law of sin and death is exactly what it says, you sin you die. Because we are sinners we deserve death but Jesus died for our sins so when we accept his salvation we will not die the second death. Adam and Eve were suppose to die the very day that they disobeyed God but Jesus stepped in and established the plan of salvation way back in the garden of Eden. So are you saying that it is okay for christians to disobey the ten commandments?

 

[3Scoreand10]

Yes, that's exactly what I am saying. Since when did the MAJORITY ever determine what is TRUTH? I go by the WORD OF GOD, not by what the MAJORITY is doing.

1 Timothy 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils

Jude 1:4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

Why do you think that God is calling HIS PEOPLE out of Babylon?

Its because they are IN IT, and do not know it. Revelation chapter 18.

Why do you think that Jesus is telling HIS PEOPLE, the Laodicean Church, that they THINK that they are rich and increased with goods and in need of nothing, when in reality they are poor, blind, and naked and in need of the White Raiment, the eyesalve so they can see, and the pure gold tried in the fire? They do not have the actual righteousness of Christ. The Bible says b"e not deceived it is they that DO righteousness that are righteous."

Its because the MAJORITY of those who claim to be HIS PEOPLE are blind.

We are living in the END TIMES. When the Disciples asked Jesus What will be the sign of the end of the world and of your coming, He said Take heed that ye be not deceived.

In the Book of Timothy we read that in the Last Days PERILOUS times will come, men will be lovers of pleasure more than lovers of God, and they will have a FORM of godliness, denying the power thereof.

Romans 6:15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.

Romans 6:1-3
6 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
[SUP]2 [/SUP]God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?

Why do you think that Bible has so much to say about this? its because the Bible Writers KNEW that so many would get it WRONG.

The Sabbath was kept from sundown friday until sundown saturday.
The Israelites were to do no work nor were anyone in their house were to do work.
My question is this.
Do you cause others to work on the Sabbath by watching tv, using your phone, using your electric lights, using your city water, turning on the heat or air, going out to eat, using your pc, or shopping?
If you answer yes to any of these, you are breaking the sabbath also.
Would that not be hypocritical!

 

[GregoryC]

You are misinterpreting the scriptures. The law of sin and death is exactly what it says, you sin you die. Because we are sinners we deserve death but Jesus died for our sins so when we accept his salvation we will not die the second death. Adam and Eve were suppose to die the very day that they disobeyed God but Jesus stepped in and established the plan of salvation way back in the garden of Eden. So are you saying that it is okay for christians to disobey the ten commandments?

Romans 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death.
Adam and Eve died the day they disobeyed just as God said they would. They died spiritually.
As for Jesus stepping in afterwords you are mistaken as Bible states Jesus is the Lamb slain before the foundation of the world.
Do you not know that everyone who is baptized into Christ Jesus was baptized into His death? Therefore since we have died with Him we believe also we are raised with Him to walk in newness of life according to the Spirit not in the oldness of the letter.
We have been released from the law through death to serve God in the Spirit. The law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus.

The old covenant passed away with the death and resurrection of Christ. If you wish to remain under the law given to the Jews and not gentiles that is your loss.

 

[4enlightment]

Does not sin take occasion by the Commandment? I mean when I was growing up, I was told to stay in my room. So what did I want to do,? Sneak out escape? Once I knew the Law and found out it made me aware of sin and yet by it because of unredeemed flesh I sinned all the more, until I saw this sinfulness that I could not keep from and turned it all over to God through Christ, and sincw then he has done what I could never do of and in my unredeemed flesh, therefore by the death at the cross I reckon that is my death daily to slef and see the new life daily in the Spirit of God, thanks to God' amazing gift through Son's finished work at the cross for all those that decide to believe God loves us that much to appreciate, never take it for granted

Yes, It has became a sin when the law was place and making you aware of that you are doing wrong, but if your parent remove it, then you are not a sinner anymore, but you realize now, that you were a disobedient person that needs help to learn how to be obedient at the time (And which we all need a obedient training collar for our necks). I'm going to use this as an example; If God told you as an 3 years old child to love everyone unconditionally, but as a child, you will do it with no problem. Like children, they doesn't see the things as we see them. If a person is a Liar, they wouldn't careless and will still love them (And so God can't test them to see if they can love someone unconditionally), but if they has grown and see what has happen when someone lies, then it will be hard for them to forgive them, because they has seen the works of lying and what it can cause, and so it made them aware of it. And now God can test them to see if they can love someone unconditionally that they do not know. All God is trying to do is to make us aware of sin first, and then see if we still can love a sinner as He has done, and to show us what He has done for us by forgiving. Back then the people heart were hard and didn't take sin seriously. One moment they can hate someone, and the next moment they are drinking buddies. So can anybody love their enemies? That take great power and understanding to able to do that; but if we weren't aware of sin, yes we can forgive.

 

[Karraster]

Someone wanted to know about my website addresses I posted here... and actually I posted different ones. So I am just going to leave these addresses here for anyone who wants them (and now I am really done!) :

My website about the New Age Movement, Freemasonry and the Catholic Connection:
Religious Counterfeits -Spiritual insights into the dangers of the New Age and the New World Order.

My two website templates sites:
You Are Free To Choose |countrymanordesigns.com Website Templates
Web Design - Website Templates

My video about why we still have to keep the 10 Commandment Law:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xF0lsL5b7mc

And then you can watch my Video which explains what is the Mark of the Beast. It has something to do with the False Sabbath... find out what!
https://vimeo.com/29214720

Scroll down and watch "The Crime of all Ages" by Professor Walter Veith to find out WHY the change of the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday is so important (you can actually go back and watch the entire Total Onslaught series by him too) :
Browse Media - Total Onslaught - English - Amazing Discoveries TV

Click this link to learn how the 7th Day Sabbath was changed to Sunday the 1st Day of the Week, and why!
The Seventh Day Part 2 | Sabbath Truth
When you get done watching this video, if you would like to watch the Series, click here:
Seventh Day Video Series | Sabbath Truth

Hi ClaudiaT, I have viewed your video about the Mark of the Beast, it was done very professionally, but what's more it was Truth!!! well documented and lined up with the scriptures of the Word. You have a gift to teach sister.

Any scoffers here should watch it. If you don't know these things, you need to know. Nothing is more important than to understand the Word and obey.

So many things I could take from your video and post here, but I'll choose this only:

[SUP]16 [/SUP]Bind up the testimony, seal the law among my disciples.



Thank you Claudia. May Yahovah bless and keep you, and give you strength to continue as watcher on the wall.

 

[endtimes]

Okay. Now I am really actually really really done now. so goodbye for real now... honest

Is she really really leaving this time? Will that new book of hers come with crayons?