MODERN CHRISTIANS WORSHIPPING THEIR HEATHEN GODS--by tossing out the 7th Day Sabbath

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Romans 6:15 KJV
(15) What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.

And through Faith in God through the Son we do as by trust, we respond to God not try to be good in look at me and all my goodness, since no one is good and our flesh is unredeemed, therefore we are to reckon self dead to sin flesh and a,live to God in Spirit not flesh ever.

Romans 6:11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Romans 5:10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

All flesh is born dead, and in need to be born again in the Spirit of God period, and that is what Christ came to do is to give us new life in the Spirit of God and this is done by the resurrected Christ in the Spirit for us to be justified by Belief (Faith) is to continuously trust Father to do the work in and through us just as Christ did when he was here in the flesh led by the Spirit of God and after he ascended sent us this same Spirit to lead us, and we are then at rest in trust to Father in Love God's type not mans type
Seeing from God's vantage point is so much different that his world's viewpoint in we must do this or that and undo stress and worry is placed on man and sin continues to be born through this way of the world that does not see from the creator 's view point
And we are called after belief to renew our mindsets, to see from God the Father's viewpoint. only God himself can do this revealing and the giving of the Mercy provided through Son, so maybe it is time to cry out for this mercy
[h=3]Luke 18:9-14[/h]Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

[SUP]9 [/SUP]And he spake this parable unto certain which trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others: [SUP]10 [/SUP]Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican. [SUP]11 [/SUP]The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican. [SUP]12 [/SUP]I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess. [SUP]13 [/SUP]And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner. [SUP]14 [/SUP]I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.
 
Romans 8:4 KJV
(4) That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.


So if we walk after the Spirit we keep the law. If we do not walk after the Spirit we will not.
Agreed, but what Law are you talking about the new Law or the old Law as in the letter of it?
Law of of liberty has set me free from the Law of sin and death
 
Jesus is my Savior and I go and rest with Him on Sabbath.

so what do you do the rest of the week, sin? Just asking Sister. I mean does God not stay with us and are we not to be at rest in everyday knowing that as we go in this world carrying the Gospel with us God is with us, ready to give an account for our joy, that permeates through our lives in and through us if we are willing vessels as a glass of water is and we use that glass of water as we see fit. Is this not to be true with God 24/7 to tell,others about his amazing grace and love to all?
Or are we to just invite them to our Church where the gunman is at to bring more guilt to the person
I know of a person that felt guilty for what they were doing and this person was told to go to Church and get help.
This persons response shocked me
This person said you want me to go to Church? I already feel guilty for what I am doing and you want me to go to Church and feel worse?
What has happened to the grace, the love, the mercy God has poured out? And so we say tom others God will only l,ove me if:
Wow
Luke 6:32 For if ye love them which love you, what thank have ye? for sinners also love those that love them.

Shame on us, shame shame shame
 
so what do you do the rest of the week, sin? Just asking Sister. I mean does God not stay with us and are we not to be at rest in everyday knowing that as we go in this world carrying the Gospel with us God is with us, ready to give an account for our joy, that permeates through our lives in and through us if we are willing vessels as a glass of water is and we use that glass of water as we see fit. Is this not to be true with God 24/7 to tell,others about his amazing grace and love to all?
Or are we to just invite them to our Church where the gunman is at to bring more guilt to the person
I know of a person that felt guilty for what they were doing and this person was told to go to Church and get help.
This persons response shocked me
This person said you want me to go to Church? I already feel guilty for what I am doing and you want me to go to Church and feel worse?
What has happened to the grace, the love, the mercy God has poured out? And so we say tom others God will only l,ove me if:
Wow
Luke 6:32 For if ye love them which love you, what thank have ye? for sinners also love those that love them.

Shame on us, shame shame shame

I work six days. Then I rest on the Sabbath. Included in that is worship of my Creator as well as a time for extra study and prayer and fellowship with Him.
 
HAHA well it is true as I have no clue who Ellen WHite is, but have heard and read a lot about Jesus and from Paul's inspired writings HAH ;)

Absolutely, I have listened and heard a lot of pastors and other people, about the truth, around the truth and right on the truth, talking about me as well,
then when I saw there is no mediator between God and man except Christ the Son. I heard so do not allow anyone else including self to get in between Christ and you. I have regarded that ever since in to be wise as a serpent and harmless as a dove, this included all the disciples of God, God wanting a personal relationship and still read what he did with all those other believers in him in the word he has left for us to beleive by, just bring all to Father through Son to separate any errors from truth, and then I would be set free in God.
So every time I see me in bondage I see some error has gotten mixed in with my truth and I go to God to teach me what happened and God has not ever failed me in this yet, and always says I stepped out of being led by him and started trusting self or another person in what they said, that sounded so good
 
Ellen G. White, along with her husband James, is regarded as the founder of the Seventh Day Adventist movement.

So then it is mans doing and not God's. I wonder why is man getting the credit when God is the only one that should get all the credit for any good, since God is the only one truly good
At least per Christ this is so. Matt. 19 he did say this right?
 
I work six days. Then I rest on the Sabbath. Included in that is worship of my Creator as well as a time for extra study and prayer and fellowship with Him.

Okay, that is great and you give God thanks, So do I yet it is everyday to me and for me, whether I work or not and give God thanks as well, so we are to, let each other be fully convinced in our minds are we not. For it is God that teaches each of us and it is god that causes each of us to stand in God by god's love through Son correct or not?
Love god's way to you Brother and am elated over what you do for God, God is too, knowing you walk by Faith
 
So then it is mans doing and not God's. I wonder why is man getting the credit when God is the only one that should get all the credit for any good, since God is the only one truly good
At least per Christ this is so. Matt. 19 he did say this right?

Call it man's if you like...

Lev 23:2 "Speak to the children of Israel, and say to them: 'The feasts of the LORD, which you shall proclaim to be holy convocations, these are My feasts.
Lev 23:3 'Six days shall work be done, but the seventh day is a Sabbath of solemn rest, a holy convocation. You shall do no work on it; it is the Sabbath of the LORD in all your dwellings.

In fact, you can call it a space shuttle if you like, God says it is His Sabbath.
 
Agreed, but what Law are you talking about the new Law or the old Law as in the letter of it?
Law of of liberty has set me free from the Law of sin and death

Better yet what law is Paul talking about in this verse, remember they only had the Old Testament at the time.
 
Okay, that is great and you give God thanks, So do I yet it is everyday to me and for me, whether I work or not and give God thanks as well, so we are to, let each other be fully convinced in our minds are we not. For it is God that teaches each of us and it is god that causes each of us to stand in God by god's love through Son correct or not?
Love god's way to you Brother and am elated over what you do for God, God is too, knowing you walk by Faith

It is impossible to have the sabbath everyday because only the 7th day has been blessed. None of the other 6 days have been blessed.
 
Jesus Christ is Lord of the Sabbath.
We died with him we are raised with Him.
We now observe the Sabbath Spiritually and daily as we are in Christ, the Lord of the Sabbath.
In the same way we are also circumcised spiritually in our hearts.
We serve Christ in newness of the spirit not oldness of the letter. A new and living way.
 
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Ellen G. White, along with her husband James, is regarded as the founder of the Seventh Day Adventist movement.


AH yes, now that you reminded me I remember hahah...shows how low on my list she is!

I down loaded their (doctrinal) statement one time several years ago to show somebody how much she misses the mark on!
 
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Jesus Christ is Lord of the Sabbath.
We died with him we are raised with Him.
We now observe the Sabbath Spiritually and daily as we are in Christ, the Lord of the Sabbath.
In the same way we are also circumcised spiritually in our hearts.
We serve Christ in newness of the spirit not oldness of the letter. A new and living way.

Yes Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath, He has always been since He created the Sabbath.
Yes we do die and are raised with Him and so walk in newness of life.
Yes we are to be circumcised in heart it is also mentioned in the OT to be circumcised in heart.
It is also true if we love God we will keep His commandments.

While the law is spiritual as it says in Romans 7 there is a literal side to the commandments. If we walk after the Spirit the righteousness of the law will be fulfilled in us. We can not keep everyday as the sabbath because only the 7th day has been blessed. We are to be in Christ everyday and worship Him everyday but cannot keep everyday as the sabbath.
 
Yes Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath, He has always been since He created the Sabbath.
Yes we do die and are raised with Him and so walk in newness of life.
Yes we are to be circumcised in heart it is also mentioned in the OT to be circumcised in heart.
It is also true if we love God we will keep His commandments.

While the law is spiritual as it says in Romans 7 there is a literal side to the commandments. If we walk after the Spirit the righteousness of the law will be fulfilled in us. We can not keep everyday as the sabbath because only the 7th day has been blessed. We are to be in Christ everyday and worship Him everyday but cannot keep everyday as the sabbath.

Hebrews 4:10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.
We who believe are spiritually in a perpetual state of Sabbath rest. For we are in Christ.

Romans 8:1
There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
 
posted originally by Stephen63.

Then there's the rest of the laws concerning the Sabbath (seventh) day
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1. No work done at all (Ex. 20: 10; Lev. 23: 3; Jer. 17:21-22). No watering the lawn, no working in the yard, no hobbies, no surfing, no fixing flat tires, etc. By law if a person did not stop all types of activity in honor of the Sabbath, he was breaking the law. In Numbers 15:32-36 a man was caught collecting sticks on the Sabbath, and he was stoned to death.
2 No kindling of a fire (Ex. 35:3). No fellowship cookouts or barbecues. You can't go into a restaurant and get a hamburger that's been flame broiled, you can't cook eggs, or pancakes in the morning because you'd be kindling a fire for cooking. To drive a car would be to "kindle a fire" In the combustion chamber of your engine.
3. No traveling at all (Ex. 16:29). Later the Jews added to this law, allowing only a half mile of travel on the Sabbath which we see observed in the NT. But the pure law says "stay at home." Actually, If you kept this part of the law, you could not travel to your church gathering unless it was less than one-quarter mile away from home. If you had an emergency you could not drive to the hospital.
4. No trading (Amos 8:5). If you happened to need gas to get to church service, you could not "trade" money for gasoline. You would not be allowed to buy a cassette tape of that morning's message or a book at the store. There is to be No exchanging of money for goods. If you worked with stocks and you needed to sell you couldn’t.
5. No marketing (Neh. 10:31; 13:15,19). Make sure you do no shopping whatsoever. You can't buy any ice cream for dessert after dinner or anything else. If you run out of food or drink at home you can’t go out to purchase any, you can’t even by a stick of gum.
6. A holy assembly with double the daily offering along with the other offerings. In other words, you are to give twice as much on the Sabbath (Num. 28:9).Do we practiced this today In compliance with Old Testament law. Do Sabbatarian's really practice the law? I have yet to see people go to Shabbat and give twice as much each week.
7. New showbread In the holy place (Lev. 24:8). Of course this cannot be done today since there is no temple, so this part of the Sabbath cannot be followed by the church. The fact Is the Sabbath was not made for the gentiles, but for the Jews and their generations (Ex. 31:12-17). It's a law given between God and the Jews.
8.The last part of the requirements for keeping the Sabbath day law Is the penalty for breaking It. DEATH


So, which of you are keeping the Shabbat of the 10 commandments?

1. Nope. Not in my house. We sleep late, sit on the couch, talk to each other, and eat cold food.

2. We don't turn on the stove, have cookouts or barbecues until dark. We turn on the heater, but this statement is in relation to the cooking fire, not the housewarming fire. My Father does not want his people to freeze to death.

3. I don't travel. I stay home. Sometimes I walk next door or down the street, but usually the front door gets closed at sundown and stays closed until sundown the next day.

4. I do my shopping on Friday, or do without on Sabbath. It's a type and shadow of the virgins and their lamps. Be prepared.

5.I do no marketing. What marketing?

6. The temple doesn't exist anymore, and the requirement for sacrifice has been done away with since Yeshua died on the cross for my sins, therefore becoming that blood sacrifice.

8. Then honor the Sabbath. (shrug.)

Keeping the Sabbath makes me feel rested and alive, full of hope for the next week. It recharges my battery, and is the highlight of my week. I work 50-60 hour weeks sometimes, but even if my work calls, I do not look at the phone. In 20 years of obeying the Sabbath, I've never had to decide between it and my job, and frankly, would not take a job that had me working on the Sabbath. I feel refreshed, renewed, and ready to put on the full armor after every Sabbath.

I'm sorry you see the law as such a burden, friend. Shalom.