Epesians 5:22 Do I have to follow my husband to his church

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We go to different churches. I left his church because i can not teach there or be a usher. Woman are not recognized there. We have to sit quietly and not say nothing. My daughter and i go to faith united methodist church my husband goes to family bible church. I just want to make sure its not a sin. We learn the same he uses kjv and i use the NIV.
 
We go to different churches. I left his church because i can not teach there or be a usher. Woman are not recognized there. We have to sit quietly and not say nothing. My daughter and i go to faith united methodist church my husband goes to family bible church. I just want to make sure its not a sin. We learn the same he uses kjv and i use the NIV.

I would not think you should 'have' to. But, my first thought is
is he satisfied with the arrangement ? I wonder why it is so
important to you ( no offense meant ) to be usher and teacher
right now? Just a thought. Also, scripture came to mind is
"A house divided can not stand."
I would think by that do you agree on same doctrinal issues ?
Father, Son, and Holy Spirit ? Jesus is our Redeemer and
does your Church preach the Word ?
What does your husband feel about this going your way and
him, his ?
I personally would have to go to where my husband is because
he is the head of the house. I would pray and ask God to
please show you where you should be. I know you will get some
excellent advice here. I have to just answer what I would do,
unless we were to find something being taught is error, it
should be a Christian family going to Church together.
I am sorry I did not see the part about his church not allowing
women to do anything. Wow ...
 
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I think long term, it is better if you go to the same church. I know my husband and I went through a period of 6 months, when we were not in the same church. The church we were in, the pastor went off his rocker. He just abandoned the Bible completely, and was preaching from the books of some cult about neighborhood evangelism being the only way to reach the lost. I was very involved in that church, talked to the pastor, and he denied everything. I gave him concrete examples and he had no idea what I was talking about. Plus he had driven all my friends out of the church, by refusing to let their husbands do any ministry. Men were obviously threats to him.

So I left, and my husband stayed. I found the most amazing church, with a pastor who actually preached the Word of God, many ex-missionaries and a passion to reach the lost, and incredible fellowship. It was exactly what God wanted and what I needed.

After 6 months, my husband came to an Easter production, and realized how many people he knew. He came to Sunday morning service and never went back to the old church.

I think you have to ask some questions about the theologies of both church. And what the pastor is preaching. You obviously want to serve in a certain capacity, but maybe you could serve in a different ministry in your husband's church? Or find out what his objections are to the church you are attending. See if they differences can be overcome, so either you go back or he comes to the same church as you.

I personally don't find any scriptures that say a wife has to go to the husband's church. But it is awkward. Is he ok with you going to a different church? If not, then maybe some compromises have to be made. If so, then I guess you should continue as you have been doing.

I do not recommend separate churches, but I do understand about serving in a church that will not allow women to do things. My new church was very narrow about this, before I came, and a lot of people left. So they allowed women to serve as deacons, but not elders. Baby steps!
 
Hi wanatahlady,

The best thing in this situation is to pray.. and better if the two f you earnestly pray together about this.
 
You should realize that really your husband is more to you than a pastor. Pastors should not usurp the role of husbands. Keep your husband closer than your pastor or church and if your husband does not care, go to church where you like.
 
First be submissive to God, the Word, then your husband. Bible is clear women can teach other women and children. Whether they can teach other men is hotly debated within Christian orthodoxy and denominations. Personally I feel ok for women to teach and preach, but not be a head elder or pastor. Not because they are incapable, but because so many men have hangups about it. However, personally I wouldn't want my family to separated. But also I love my wife and respect her opinions and feelings, if she didn't like a church I'd find one we both can agree on.

This truly is a question only you can answer, spend time in God's word and in prayer about it. Talk it over with your husband. I pray God will help you with your decision.
 
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We go to different churches.... I just want to make sure its not a sin....."
Some of the church fathers wrote, and some ancient Bible manuscripts show, a form of the Greek verb ΥΠΩΤΑϹϹΕϹΘΕ (ὑποτασσέσθε hupotassesthe / KJV = submit ). Others do not. Ditto for English language Bible versions.

In short, from the second century AD/CE until today, how Eph. 5:22 is to be interpreted depends upon:
  1. which bibical manuscripts one studies,
  2. which modern Bible version one reads, and
  3. which church dogma one accepts.

Is it a sin if your husband and you participate in different churches? IMO, and since even the ancient manuscripts disagree over what Greek verb should appear in that verse, if any, that's an issue you and your spouse should jointly, privately, discuss and resolve.
 
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We go to different churches. I left his church because i can not teach there or be a usher. Woman are not recognized there. We have to sit quietly and not say nothing. My daughter and i go to faith united methodist church my husband goes to family bible church. I just want to make sure its not a sin. We learn the same he uses kjv and i use the NIV.

You should go to a church of your own choosing.
 
We go to different churches. I left his church because i can not teach there or be a usher. Woman are not recognized there. We have to sit quietly and not say nothing. My daughter and i go to faith united methodist church my husband goes to family bible church. I just want to make sure its not a sin. We learn the same he uses kjv and i use the NIV.

You referenced Ephesians 5:22

which says wives submit yourselves to your husbands.

That word submit there actually in the greek translation is hypotaso
which means to subject or be put in subjection

So the wife is indeed subject to the husband but the husband is subject to God
so if your husband's church are teaching things that are contrary to scripture then......

you have the authority from God to worship where they are obeying the will of God(See Rom 13:1)

Hope this helps
God bless you
 
Paul placed emphasis on subjection and respect. Of course, a husband who exercises his headship in a proper manner will make it easier for his wife to remain in subjection.

Paul also stated that a wife “should have deep respect for her husband.” A Christian wife should manifest a “quiet and mild spirit,” not arrogantly challenging her husband or taking an independent course. (1 Peter 3:4) A godly wife works hard for the good of the household and brings honor to her head. (Titus 2:4, 5) She will endeavor to speak well of her husband and thus do nothing to cause others to disrespect him. She will also work hard to make his decisions succeed.-Proverbs 14:1.

Having a quiet and mild spirit does not mean that a Christian woman does not have opinions or that her thinking is unimportant. Godly women of old, such as Sarah and Rebekah, took the initiative to express their concern about matters, and the Bible record shows that Jehovah approved of their actions. (Genesis 21:8-12; 27:46–28:4) Christian wives too can make their feelings known. However, they should do so considerately, not in demeaning tones. They will likely find that such communication will be more pleasing and effective. Consider the Bible account of Abigail.-1 Samuel 25:2-35.

Often, men who are verbally injurious have a distorted view of the God-assigned roles for husband and wife. A husband may feel that headship entitles him to absolute control. But this is not so. His wife, though in subjection, is not his slave. She is his “helper” and “complement.” (Genesis 2:18) Read Ephesians 5:28, 29.

It would not be a good thing, then, for a wife to feel pressured to do what she knows is very unwise or in violation of godly principles, in the name of subjection, she should not be made to feel guilty for taking initiative in some essential matter, as did Abigail and Sarah. Be cognitive that both churches may not be beneficial.-2 Timothy 3:16.

Wifely does not mean that a wife must always comply with everything a husband wishes. The difference are when right principles are at stake, she may have to disagree with her husband. Even so, she should still display the overall spirit of godly subjection.

Of course, a wife should be careful not to bypass her husband’s wishes out of willfulness, spite, or other wrong motives. She must be discerning, “good in discretion,” as was Abigail.-1 Samuel 25:3.

The primary goal and spirit of a wife’s godly subjection is to please Jehovah by cooperating with her husband and supporting his decisions. This is fairly easy when a husband is spiritually mature. It can be a challenge if he is not.
 
Paul placed emphasis on subjection and respect. Of course, a husband who exercises his headship in a proper manner will make it easier for his wife to remain in subjection.

Paul also stated that a wife “should have deep respect for her husband.” A Christian wife should manifest a “quiet and mild spirit,” not arrogantly challenging her husband or taking an independent course. (1 Peter 3:4) A godly wife works hard for the good of the household and brings honor to her head. (Titus 2:4, 5) She will endeavor to speak well of her husband and thus do nothing to cause others to disrespect him. She will also work hard to make his decisions succeed.-Proverbs 14:1.

Having a quiet and mild spirit does not mean that a Christian woman does not have opinions or that her thinking is unimportant. Godly women of old, such as Sarah and Rebekah, took the initiative to express their concern about matters, and the Bible record shows that Jehovah approved of their actions. (Genesis 21:8-12; 27:46–28:4) Christian wives too can make their feelings known. However, they should do so considerately, not in demeaning tones. They will likely find that such communication will be more pleasing and effective. Consider the Bible account of Abigail.-1 Samuel 25:2-35.

Often, men who are verbally injurious have a distorted view of the God-assigned roles for husband and wife. A husband may feel that headship entitles him to absolute control. But this is not so. His wife, though in subjection, is not his slave. She is his “helper” and “complement.” (Genesis 2:18) Read Ephesians 5:28, 29.

It would not be a good thing, then, for a wife to feel pressured to do what she knows is very unwise or in violation of godly principles, in the name of subjection, she should not be made to feel guilty for taking initiative in some essential matter, as did Abigail and Sarah. Be cognitive that both churches may not be beneficial.-2 Timothy 3:16.

Wifely does not mean that a wife must always comply with everything a husband wishes. The difference are when right principles are at stake, she may have to disagree with her husband. Even so, she should still display the overall spirit of godly subjection.

Of course, a wife should be careful not to bypass her husband’s wishes out of willfulness, spite, or other wrong motives. She must be discerning, “good in discretion,” as was Abigail.-1 Samuel 25:3.

The primary goal and spirit of a wife’s godly subjection is to please Jehovah by cooperating with her husband and supporting his decisions. This is fairly easy when a husband is spiritually mature. It can be a challenge if he is not.
I couldn't agree more!
 
Both of you attend the church of Christ, and forged the other two, execpt to convert them.
 
I don't see a commandment anywhere in the word that makes you sinful for worshiping in another church. However, leaving your husband to be influenced by things that might hurt your marriage (not allowing you to speak at all?) probably isn't really smart. Are you more concerned with how it impacts you, the woman, or are you more interested in protecting the marriage?

My husband and I don't do church, for many reasons, but what you said would be a reason I might switch. Women are an active and vibrant part of the word, and Yahweh uses them in exciting and interesting ways. Does it bother you more that you can't contribute, or that you are expected to submit to the rules? What makes you want a leadership role in the church so badly? What is that about, really, under the surface?

I can't tell you what to do, but I can tell you what I would do. I would go with him anywhere that he will have me. I would never leave him to spiritual influences that might hurt us, and he would likewise protect me. If he insisted on going to this church, we would talk about it openly. I would abide by the rules in the church because I trust my husband, and would trust that whatever reason was drawing him to stay. Being disorderly or strident about my "rights" would only weaken him in the eyes of others. I would provide him with feedback on how I feel, and discuss the concerns I have openly. Before having any discussions with him, I would be in prayer searching my own motives, and making sure that I wasn't just being prideful and full of my own importance (understanding these are my behaviors, not yours.) In the end, I would abide by his decision, and pray that it was the right one or that Yahweh would show him why we should move on.
 
Peace be with you sister, our selfish feelings and desires may cause disobedience to the Word of GOD, as it is written for submission, for orderly behavior and conducts in the church, men and women.

You will be doing well if only you would patiently take the back seat and be joined with your husband in one church, since you are one flesh with your husband and he is the head of the family and you put him first and as he put CHRIST first for his given family. You also will do well being a faithful homemaker and be saved by child bearing and teaching them and watching and praying for them since their challenges faced with the world day by day may grow stronger to test them.
You may also do well having a Bible discussion and prayer women group in your home and together do charitable deeds onto others who are spiritually and physically poor. As it is written when JESUS and HIS disciples were doing the will of the FATHER (ministry), the women who were with them including mother Mary and the other Marys, they were quiet homemaker providing their necessity as the men labored for the Kingdom of GOD.

Also please know that the devourer of the church and families is roaming like a roaring lion waiting to devour. Since it is still written in the New Testament that women are weak and as it has happened once before in the beginning and a happy family was broken up.

Holding a position in church in order to serve is wonderful and blessing it may seem but also they come with great responsibilities to be answerable for later, even on judgement day.

Even it is written that; "teachers will be greatly judged".

You are teacher, hopefully of the Holy Scripture in the Holy Bible and you know the Truth that i am guided to share from to you, speaking in wisdom of knowledge, of the Kingdom of GOD. i pray in the name of LORD JESUS CHRIST, may GOD the FATHER help you to make the right choice according to HIS every Word so that you ill not be deceived.

Also for your loving information from the HOLY SPIRIT is that, deception is very close with the Truth and is able to trick us to compromise and fall, similar to the deception method used on Eve. Sometimes people who know the Holy Bible can overlook Scripture and go ahead of CHRIST and HIS chosen Apostles New Covenant and head on the wrong road, until later they discover through the same Scripture, they have fallen into a pit and cry out to JESUS for Help.

'Holy Scripture is GOD's Love and is just and fair that justifies our submission, obedience and choices.'

As it is written; "You harvest what you plant and you reap what you sow."
 
... I left his church because i can not teach there or be a usher. Woman are not recognized there. We have to sit quietly and not say nothing...

Sister, his "church" is disobeying the Word of God...PERIOD!

His "church" is simply doing the work of the Devil and oppressing women by NOT allowing them to minister as the Lord intended in the Body of Christ!

You can find a section in This study that deals with this subject (especially from page 34 ->), but it would be worthwhile going through the whole study...

Sister, you minister as the Lord guides you!

Yahweh Shalom...
 
Sister, his "church" is disobeying the Word of God...PERIOD!

His "church" is simply doing the work of the Devil and oppressing women by NOT allowing them to minister as the Lord intended in the Body of Christ!

You can find a section in This study that deals with this subject (especially from page 34 ->), but it would be worthwhile going through the whole study...

Sister, you minister as the Lord guides you!

Yahweh Shalom...
So you view God's commandment as oppressive?

1 Timothy 2:11-15
11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.


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Sister, his "church" is disobeying the Word of God...PERIOD!

His "church" is simply doing the work of the Devil and oppressing women by NOT allowing them to minister as the Lord intended in the Body of Christ!

You can find a section in This study that deals with this subject (especially from page 34 ->), but it would be worthwhile going through the whole study...

Sister, you minister as the Lord guides you!

Yahweh Shalom...

Applying scripture is the work of the Devil?
 
So you view God's commandment as oppressive?

1 Timothy 2:11-15
11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.


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It is unfortunate that you see fit to twist this Scripture (along with 1Cor 14v34,35) to fit with your unscriptural view that women cannot minister to men in the Body of Christ!

You are simply robbing yourself (and potentially other women) of the ministry that the Lord Jesus has for you!

The FULL truth from the whole of the New Testament (and NOT just 2 Scriptures ripped out of their context, the context being that of domestic relationships and NOT ministry in the Body of Christ) is that women should take their place alongside men in ministry to the whole Body of Christ! Gal 3v28
 
It is unfortunate that you see fit to twist this Scripture (along with 1Cor 14v34,35) to fit with your unscriptural view that women cannot minister to men in the Body of Christ!

You are simply robbing yourself (and potentially other women) of the ministry that the Lord Jesus has for you!

The FULL truth from the whole of the New Testament (and NOT just 2 Scriptures ripped out of their context, the context being that of domestic relationships and NOT ministry in the Body of Christ) is that women should take their place alongside men in ministry to the whole Body of Christ! Gal 3v28

Hmmm, seems pretty straightforward to me. But then again, if it says white, some have to "interpret" it to say black.
 
Applying scripture is the work of the Devil?

Certainly not, BUT twisting it out of its context (as YOU wish to do) certainly is!

Lay aside your male chauvinistic perverted attitude and stop oppressing women with it!