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lil_christian

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1 Peter 4:8 (NASB)
Above all, keep fervent in your love for one another, because love covers a multitude of sins.

This verse right here...every single day of my life. I need to remind myself of this verse. I don't know why I didn't think of this verse before last night. I'm just glad someone brought it up.
 

lil_christian

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Those scientists were studying the wrong ladies. If a guy decides to be a Debi Downer I don't wanna be around him. For me, when a guy is happy, I'd much rather be around him. Mainly because moods can be contagious for me. If someone is sad or upset I'm going to feel it and I'm going to feel really bad. Why would I decide to date a person like that?? If someone is happy, chances are, I'll feel happier, too.
 

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Those scientists were studying the wrong ladies. If a guy decides to be a Debi Downer I don't wanna be around him. For me, when a guy is happy, I'd much rather be around him. Mainly because moods can be contagious for me. If someone is sad or upset I'm going to feel it and I'm going to feel really bad. Why would I decide to date a person like that?? If someone is happy, chances are, I'll feel happier, too.
One part of the study, though, said that they were gauging women's reactions solely based on sexual attraction/energy, not whether or not they'd want them to be around them/be their friend/boyfriend/husband. I'm not saying I agree, I'm just saying that there may be some confusion there, as it seems to be based more on sexual attraction rather than "general" attraction.
 
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Those scientists were studying the wrong ladies. If a guy decides to be a Debi Downer I don't wanna be around him. For me, when a guy is happy, I'd much rather be around him. Mainly because moods can be contagious for me. If someone is sad or upset I'm going to feel it and I'm going to feel really bad. Why would I decide to date a person like that?? If someone is happy, chances are, I'll feel happier, too.
I think the point was more about brooding, and these women were likely single. This is the thing behind it.

A single woman will look at a really happy guy and she'll be like 'he's so happy, he must have everything he needs', and this will play on a person's own security. 'If he's got everything he needs, he'll hardly need me'. Not only that, happiness seems to indicate satisfaction and contenment. It seems to me that women want men to not simply be content, but be 'hungry'.

If a guy looks brooding, or ashamed and slightly lacking somehow, a woman might also think 'I can fill that gap'. It's the whole 'I can change him, I can fill the hole in him' thing. And it's such a cliche but it's true.

And remember, too, this is based on still images, and basic first attraction, 'would I sleep with this guy' instincts. Prideful expressions or brooding expressions are supposed to be synonymous (apparently) with strength, power, fitness and fighting ability. (I know, it all sounds a bit animalistic and stupid, but there's a reason for this).

The theory is that men who look tough and arrogant will be more dominant, thus go further in whatever area of life, and this is supposed to be attractive because such people will be able to provide more money, comfort and status to their family, and if nothing else, men like this tend to care less what women think thus they are more likely to be confident leaders in lots of aspects of the partnership and in life.

There's also the thing about, if the dad is confident, cocky, arrogant and powerful, then the son will have similar traits and also do well for himself. He'll make lots of babies with lots of women and further the lineage.

In reality, although people don't like to admit it, attractiveness is most often initially based on pure sexual instinct.

The problem is, we live in a world where the cognitive reasoning like those mentioned above perpetuate the negative aspects of human procreation and sexual relations. Men who are arrogant, self-obsessed, stubborn, recklessly-driven, and really not good partners, are the ones that most (not all) women would like to father their children.

The other kind of guy - sensible, caring, affectionate, warm, smiley - makes a great relationship partner, but to many women lacks power and status.

In essence, it's a bit of a catch-22 for the women out there cause people often ask 'if you don't like coming second to a guy's ego, then why do you date jerks'? The answer really, lies in the fact that the world may not always be as lawful and peaceful as it is, and if that day ever comes in a woman's lifetime, the cocky, arrogant guy will fare a lot better in protecting and furthering the species.
 
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Who here fancies Gerard Butler in 300?

And who here fancies the lead actor in 'The Facebook?'

There's a reason the first guy gets more hits.
 

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Though, my personal opinion is that it's sort of laughable. It reminds me of when God says 'and you shall have dominion over her'. I mean, there's this whole women's power movement thing going on and yet the only thing most single women really want in men at a purely physical, primal level, is a guy to be so dominant they fall at his feet (albeit subversively and willingly).
 

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For example, past research has associated smiling with a lack of dominance,
which is consistent with traditional gender norms of the 'submissive and
vulnerable' woman, but inconsistent with the 'strong, silent' man.
If my next girlfriend thinks this of me I'm going to smile at her as much as I can just to pee her off. ;) Maybe I'll wear a bow tie and overalls, too.
 

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As a happy go lucky; reasonably intelligent guy, I tend to attract the super conservative homemaker, who can't wait to have babies and never make a taxable income again.

They expect me to be Gerard Butler, but I'm more like Brendan Fraser.
 
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As a happy go lucky; reasonably intelligent guy, I tend to attract the super conservative homemaker, who can't wait to have babies and never make a taxable income again.

They expect me to be Gerard Butler, but I'm more like Brendan Fraser.
Hahaha happy go lucky certainly works. It's the difference between Jennifer Aniston and Julia Roberts. I actually prefer the second, personally.

If only I were twenty years older and famous ... *sigh*
 

lil_christian

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One part of the study, though, said that they were gauging women's reactions solely based on sexual attraction/energy, not whether or not they'd want them to be around them/be their friend/boyfriend/husband. I'm not saying I agree, I'm just saying that there may be some confusion there, as it seems to be based more on sexual attraction rather than "general" attraction.
Aaah okay. Thanks for clearing that up. Sorry about the confusion.
 

lil_christian

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One part of the study, though, said that they were gauging women's reactions solely based on sexual attraction/energy, not whether or not they'd want them to be around them/be their friend/boyfriend/husband. I'm not saying I agree, I'm just saying that there may be some confusion there, as it seems to be based more on sexual attraction rather than "general" attraction.

After reading this and re-reading the article (I found out it only halfway loaded the first time. Gotta love the internet), all I can do is ask...why?? *Sigh* The article just sounded silly.


Excuse me, my brain might be a bit fried from Math. I might also be having one of those off-days where not a whole lot makes sense.

I have to go make dinner...that's something that's simple, and doesn't require much thinking. Only some simple Mathematics.
 
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About that article... I mean... if they are simply gauging sexual attraction, then of course they are going to choose men with "the bedroom face" over men who look like they are at the amusement park riding rollercoasters. :rolleyes:

Not sure that says anything at all about what sort of man they might like to actually date, marry or have kids with.
 

just_monicat

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About that article... I mean... if they are simply gauging sexual attraction, then of course they are going to choose men with "the bedroom face" over men who look like they are at the amusement park riding rollercoasters. :rolleyes:
right, except these photos (appear to be) lacking the rollercoaster. it's a split second assessment of attraction minus all the interaction and energy reading.

smiles are complex in their non verbal dialogue, actually. they can say far more than "i'm happy and secure". people will project their own meanings as to what that (meaningful) statement is, which says far more about the person being asked than the guy.

in many cultures (not to mention species) a smile IS a sign of weakness.

without context, it's like art. it means exactly what it means to the observer.

this study has no bearing on whether women are actually attracted to content, secure, sulking or proud guys in a meaningful, longer-than-2-seconds-situation.
 
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I slept terribly last night. I got maybe 6 hours or so, and I am sick which makes it worse. I feel like I got hit by a train.

But, I feel pretty at peace. God revealed some things to me last night, things I needed revealed about myself.
I hope you feel better. :(