Bible Predicted Israel's Nationhood

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Jda016

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This may have already been shown, so if it has, I apologize.

A prophecy in Ezekiel and a Scripture in Leviticus showed that Israel would become a nation again in 1948!

full article is here:
Author: Bible predicted date of Israel’s return

It is so amazing to me that God told us the year and month Israel would become a nation again thousands of years before it happened!
 
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This may have already been shown, so if it has, I apologize.

A prophecy in Ezekiel and a Scripture in Leviticus showed that Israel would become a nation again in 1948!

full article is here:
Author: Bible predicted date of Israel’s return

It is so amazing to me that God told us the year and month Israel would become a nation again thousands of years before it happened!
Well God being the high and lofty one that inhabits eternity is not bound by time/space, and can see/has seen the future before it happened, while being able to accurately predict history because he knows it before it has happened.
 

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Certainly a major prophecy that relates to this present return of Israel to their land (in unbelief) is Psalm 102v16:

"When the Lord shall build up Zion, He shall appear in his glory"
 
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Jda016

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Yes. Fulfilled Biblical prophecy over and again is one of the closest things to proof that an unbeliever can get. I often wonder why people who want "proof" don't study these things.
 
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This may have already been shown, so if it has, I apologize.

A prophecy in Ezekiel and a Scripture in Leviticus showed that Israel would become a nation again in 1948!

full article is here:
Author: Bible predicted date of Israel’s return

It is so amazing to me that God told us the year and month Israel would become a nation again thousands of years before it happened!
A nation of Christ hating Talmudists calling itself "Israel" does not make it so. Scripture does not identify latter day Israel based upon the idea that God's covenant people rejected Jesus 2000 years ago. The seminaries do, but scripture does not. Hebrews, an epistle to Hebrew-Israelites identifies them in a Christian new covenant context. Read chapters 8-10. They tell us that the New Covenant, that which was promised to, and made with "the house of Israel and with the house of Judah" (Jer. 31:31; Heb. 8:8) went into effect on that night of the Last Supper 2000 years ago. Hebrews proves that the seminaries and Bible colleges, by teaching that Israel rejected Jesus, are promoting a lie, one designed for the benefit of a counterfeit Israel. And how about James? Addressed to "...the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad" (James 1:1) it, like Hebrews, identifies the covenant people in a Christian new covenant context. And how about Acts? When the Holy Spirit came, as described in chapter two, it was upon Jews (real Jews), on those of the Judah portion of Israel. Acts 4 tells us that these Christian Israelites numbered about 5000. And how about Acts 21:20: "Thou seest brother, how many thousands of Jews there are which believe." Does this sound like the people today who say they are Jews ("...them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are of the synagogue of Satan" [Rev. 2:9; 3:9])? Scripture, speaking of Jews, tells us it was "...some" (Rom. 3:3), not all who rejected Jesus. Why then does the religious establishment identify Israel based upon a lie, upon the idea that that genetic Israel, those "twelve tribes...scattered abroad" in the first century were a Christ rejecting people? And why do a majority of Christians fall for this lie? Why are they so easily duped into supporting "the synagogue of Satan?" Is it not because they are first duped with the idea repeated as, "Israel rejected Jesus?"

So, who then are today's descendants of those Christian Israelites "scattered abroad" in the first century? Would it not have to be, historically, a Christian people? Read Isaiah 44:21-23 and 59:20-21. These and a multitude of others tells us that the Holy Spirit would not depart from those Christian Israelites nor their descendants "forever." Read it, it tells us that the Israelite descendants of those first Christians would continue, in an unbroken line, as the nucleus of the church and the custodians of God's word. Does this sound like today's Pharisees, or does it best fit historic Christianity, the Anglo-Saxon, Celtic, Germanic, Scandinavian and related European people? How can today's Pharisees, today's "synagogue of Satan" be Israelites and inherit the kingdom of God when they will not rise on resurrection day? Do you really think that an historically non-Christian people (the dead in Phariseeism) will rise in the resurrection? They will not. And because they will not they cannot therefore inherit the kingdom with Jesus, and are not therefore, the Israel of God. Think about it.
 
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Karraster

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The Christians have not replaced Israel. Furthermore, the grafted in branches should not boast.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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A nation of Christ hating Talmudists calling itself "Israel" does not make it so. Scripture does not identify latter day Israel based upon the idea that God's covenant people rejected Jesus 2000 years ago. The seminaries do, but scripture does not. Hebrews, an epistle to Hebrew-Israelites identifies them in a Christian new covenant context. Read chapters 8-10. They tell us that the New Covenant, that which was promised to, and made with "the house of Israel and with the house of Judah" (Jer. 31:31; Heb. 8:8) went into effect on that night of the Last Supper 2000 years ago. Hebrews proves that the seminaries and Bible colleges, by teaching that Israel rejected Jesus, are promoting a lie, one designed for the benefit of a counterfeit Israel. And how about James? Addressed to "...the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad" (James 1:1) it, like Hebrews, identifies the covenant people in a Christian new covenant context. And how about Acts? When the Holy Spirit came, as described in chapter two, it was upon Jews (real Jews), on those of the Judah portion of Israel. Acts 4 tells us that these Christian Israelites numbered about 5000. And how about Acts 21:20: "Thou seest brother, how many thousands of Jews there are which believe." Does this sound like the people today who say they are Jews ("...them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are of the synagogue of Satan" [Rev. 2:9; 3:9])? Scripture, speaking of Jews, tells us it was "...some" (Rom. 3:3), not all who rejected Jesus. Why then does the religious establishment identify Israel based upon a lie, upon the idea that that genetic Israel, those "twelve tribes...scattered abroad" in the first century were a Christ rejecting people? And why do a majority of Christians fall for this lie? Why are they so easily duped into supporting "the synagogue of Satan?" Is it not because they are first duped with the idea repeated as, "Israel rejected Jesus?"

So, who then are today's descendants of those Christian Israelites "scattered abroad" in the first century? Would it not have to be, historically, a Christian people? Read Isaiah 44:21-23 and 59:20-21. These and a multitude of others tells us that the Holy Spirit would not depart from those Christian Israelites nor their descendants "forever." Read it, it tells us that the Israelite descendants of those first Christians would continue, in an unbroken line, as the nucleus of the church and the custodians of God's word. Does this sound like today's Pharisees, or does it best fit historic Christianity, the Anglo-Saxon, Celtic, Germanic, Scandinavian and related European people? How can today's Pharisees, today's "synagogue of Satan" be Israelites and inherit the kingdom of God when they will not rise on resurrection day? Do you really think that an historically non-Christian people (the dead in Phariseeism) will rise in the resurrection? They will not. And because they will not they cannot therefore inherit the kingdom with Jesus, and are not therefore, the Israel of God. Think about it.

Romans 11 totally refutes this false teaching of replacement theology. Israel will be restored whole when the time of the gentiles has been fulfilled. And those OT prophesies will be literally fulfilled. If Not. God is a liar.
 
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The Christians have not replaced Israel. Furthermore, the grafted in branches should not boast.
Karraster, are you trying to tell us that a nation of Christ hating neo-Pharisees has replaced the Biblical Christian Israel?
 
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eternally-gratefull

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This may have already been shown, so if it has, I apologize.

A prophecy in Ezekiel and a Scripture in Leviticus showed that Israel would become a nation again in 1948!

full article is here:
Author: Bible predicted date of Israel’s return

It is so amazing to me that God told us the year and month Israel would become a nation again thousands of years before it happened!
This guy is way off.

The prophesuies concerning the return of Israel follow the time of Jacobs trouble. When All Israel repents, is saved, and returned to her land whole with one King (Jesus) ruling over them.

Israel may be in her land, But she is not under one king, and is no better off than she was before 70 AD. She is still in sin, and Jeruslaem is still controlled by the gentiles. The City of God still lies desolate. just as daniel prophesied.
 
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Romans 11 totally refutes this false teaching of replacement theology. Israel will be restored whole when the time of the gentiles has been fulfilled. And those OT prophesies will be literally fulfilled. If Not. God is a liar.
"Replacement theology" is replacing the Christian Israel so clearly described in scripture with "...the synagogue of Satan" (Rev. 2:9; 3:9), with the counterfeit Jews you so adore.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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"Replacement theology" is replacing the Christian Israel so clearly described in scripture with "...the synagogue of Satan" (Rev. 2:9; 3:9), with the counterfeit Jews you so adore.
You have serious issues. You refuse to read any scripture anyone posts/

[SUP]25 [/SUP]For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. [SUP]26 [/SUP]And so all Israel will be saved,[SUP][g][/SUP] as it is written:“The Deliverer will come out of Zion, And He will turn away ungodliness from Jacob;
[SUP]27 [/SUP]For this is My covenant with them,When I take away their sins.”[SUP]

28 [/SUP]Concerning the gospel they are enemies for your sake, but concerning the election they are beloved for the sake of the fathers. [SUP]29 [/SUP]For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.

This is a future event. But you do not want to see this. Your trying to replace Israel, God did not make some of his promises to you. Only to a nation born of Abraham, and his promises are irrevocable.

Yes they are blind now. yes they are unbelieving and in sin/ But I am not talking about now. I am talking about when GOD removes their blindness and they repent and come back to him
 
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This may have already been shown, so if it has, I apologize.

A prophecy in Ezekiel and a Scripture in Leviticus showed that Israel would become a nation again in 1948!

full article is here:
Author: Bible predicted date of Israel’s return

It is so amazing to me that God told us the year and month Israel would become a nation again thousands of years before it happened!
Jeremiah 24. Not sure about the info at the link. But read Jeremiah 24, that shows Israel would become a nation , in 1948.

Probable people are not told, is only some of Judah is there, and all fake Jews , who are not of Judah. The rest of the tribes, scattered and became the basic Christian nations of today from Germany, to Britain , Scotland Americas etc.
 
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Jda016

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Wow, I didn't think this could spark such an argument...though I suppose anything concerning Israel does.

The simple point of this post was to show the amazing accuracy of the Bible in predicting God's word coming true.

That's it. God said Israel would become a nation again in it's same land and miraculously that has come true.

For the purposes of this post, I am not drawing any conclusions in regards to Israel's status and the many ideas floating around out there about it. The only purpose is to show that God wrote in His word the exact time when Israel would be a physical nation again.

Again. The point is to show that the Bible is the living Word of God and that prophecies are being and have been fulfilled continually through His Word.
 
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Karraster

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Wow, I didn't think this could spark such an argument...though I suppose anything concerning Israel does.

The simple point of this post was to show the amazing accuracy of the Bible in predicting God's word coming true.

That's it. God said Israel would become a nation again in it's same land and miraculously that has come true.

For the purposes of this post, I am not drawing any conclusions in regards to Israel's status and the many ideas floating around out there about it. The only purpose is to show that God wrote in His word the exact time when Israel would be a physical nation again.

Again. The point is to show that the Bible is the living Word of God and that prophecies are being and have been fulfilled continually through His Word.
I know. Welcome to CC.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Wow, I didn't think this could spark such an argument...though I suppose anything concerning Israel does.

Satan hates Israel, and he has a following of people who will hate them and never want God to restor them, and refuse to believe they could ever repent It has been a major belief since rome took over and paganized the church


The simple point of this post was to show the amazing accuracy of the Bible in predicting God's word coming true.

That's it. God said Israel would become a nation again in it's same land and miraculously that has come true.

For the purposes of this post, I am not drawing any conclusions in regards to Israel's status and the many ideas floating around out there about it. The only purpose is to show that God wrote in His word the exact time when Israel would be a physical nation again.

Again. The point is to show that the Bible is the living Word of God and that prophecies are being and have been fulfilled continually through His Word.
I would say we are just seeing the birth pangs spoken of in matt 24, I would not say any specific prophesies have been fulfilled yet. But yes, it is exciting to see these things, I would doubt it was prophesied 1948. But it was prophesied. And to that we see Gods work is still at hand
 
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Jda016

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Heh, yeah I should have known.

I did the math. So have many, many others. Through the scriptures in Leviticus and Ezekiel, the exact number of years were determined for Israel to become a nation again in 1948. THAT is what is so amazing about it.

I have been a Christian my whole life, but I was shocked and amazed at mathematical accuracy of these Scriptures.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Heh, yeah I should have known.

I did the math. So have many, many others. Through the scriptures in Leviticus and Ezekiel, the exact number of years were determined for Israel to become a nation again in 1948. THAT is what is so amazing about it.

I have been a Christian my whole life, but I was shocked and amazed at mathematical accuracy of these Scriptures.

Mind if I ask what calendar you used?
 

posthuman

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Yes. Fulfilled Biblical prophecy over and again is one of the closest things to proof that an unbeliever can get. I often wonder why people who want "proof" don't study these things.
because it's not "proof" they really want; it's sin in their lives they don't want to give up, and pride in their hearts they are unwilling to let go of.
some wise old preacher said "no one has an intellectual problem believing God, what they have is a sin problem they won't let go of"
& i agree with that.
i think we all know firsthand how good humans are at rationalizing stupid behavior.
 
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Karraster

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Karraster, are you trying to tell us that a nation of Christ hating neo-Pharisees has replaced the Biblical Christian Israel?
What exactly is the "Biblical Christian Israel?" Christian isn't even in the original text, but Israel is. Oh sorry, forgot it is, just that it is used in a derogatory way. It's original meaning is more like "circus". Check history on that.
 
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