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Ok I see. He used the hebrew. thats good.
But he still fails to see something. Israel never had control of their land, even when they returned from babylonian captivity, they returned as slaves, their punishment was still in effect. Thus the 430 years would still continue.
Also. No place in the prophesies is it said they were sabbath years. or years of sevens. The word year was used, not week, as in daniel. so you would not multiply each year by seven.
it is awsome that Isreal is beginging to be returned. but the prophesy is not fulfilled. They are still being punished, even today, why do you think the dome of the rock is on the temple mount.
But he still fails to see something. Israel never had control of their land, even when they returned from babylonian captivity, they returned as slaves, their punishment was still in effect. Thus the 430 years would still continue.
Also. No place in the prophesies is it said they were sabbath years. or years of sevens. The word year was used, not week, as in daniel. so you would not multiply each year by seven.
it is awsome that Isreal is beginging to be returned. but the prophesy is not fulfilled. They are still being punished, even today, why do you think the dome of the rock is on the temple mount.
I've yet to see anyone reconcile their Replacement Theology, their non-Chrisitian "Israel" with the Christian Israel so clearly described in Hebrews, James, 1 Peter, Acts and scores of other references. Most CC posters appear to be so brainwashed with the idea that Israel rejected Jesus that they cannot see the forest for the trees (discernment?).
Karraster, who does Acts 11:26 say "...were called Christians first in Antioch?" Was it not the disciples? And, were the disciples not Jews, were they not of the Judah portion of Israel? Why then are you stating otherwise? Why are you claiming that "Christian" is not in the text, and that there were no Christian Israelites? How about exercising a bit more scholarship and discernment?
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Why don't you look at history. Your name says historist, But you do not seem to know very much of biblical history. There were MANY gentiles saved in the OT. Spiritual Isreal has always been spiritual isreal. And it has ALWAYS been separate from physcial Isreal. Even in the OT. According to the promise made to abraham (in you shall all nations be blessed)
What does that have a hill of beans to do with the future repentance and restoration of Israel in accordance with lev 26 and the prophesies concerning them returning to God, recieveing their messiah, and being restored, with Christ as their king.
You need to look in the mirror before you start falsely judging others.
What does that have a hill of beans to do with the future repentance and restoration of Israel in accordance with lev 26 and the prophesies concerning them returning to God, recieveing their messiah, and being restored, with Christ as their king.
You need to look in the mirror before you start falsely judging others.
i can see that, but i don't get how Israel and the Church will prophesy, call down all manner of plagues at their will, destroy by fire out of their mouths any that raise a hand against them and stop rain from falling anywhere on the earth for 1,260 days before being killed and their dead bodies lying in the streets of Jerusalem for 3.5 days while the world sends gifts to each other to mark the occasion, before being raised by the breath of Life and filling all that see them with great fear.
to me it sure sounds like the Revelation is referring to actual people, not institutions and nations.
of course that discussion is a whole other 30 page thread, lol.
An article written by a Jew, rationalizing modern day secular Israel?
How do you know the time when Ezekiel actually wrote what he wrote, and how do you count forward?
Please do not believe everything you read on-line or you may come up with some very wrong theology with regards to pretty much everything in the Bible.
How do you know the time when Ezekiel actually wrote what he wrote, and how do you count forward?
Please do not believe everything you read on-line or you may come up with some very wrong theology with regards to pretty much everything in the Bible.