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Lets stick with the word of its finsihed that Jesus Christ said before He died. I really seriously doubt that the vision that Stephen saw of where Jesus Christ is, seated at the right hand of God is a lie verses some one thousands of years later saying that Christ has enter the holiest of holies to cleans the temple. They lied. Why?
King James Bible
Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;." See where Jesus Christ is now? It was already done LONG before a liar invisioned lies to help the liars who had already said that they had lied and repented of their lies. They claim that Christ entered the Holy of Holies on the DATE of their FALSE prediction saying He went to the Holy of Holies insted of coming to earth as they predicted He would. Do you see the lie now? The cleansing work is finished and God already knows who is in and who is out. He don't have review or read books. Why? Because of ACTS 15:18?
Not sure what you are getting at here AMBF... You are making some sense (with regard to Stephen) but that doesn't quite nullify what the Adventists are saying does it? If Christ went up to be at the right hand of the father, then went to the Most Holy Place (as we are told in Acts 9) at a later stage, could that not mean that Christ was at the right hand during the time of Stephen and then went to the Holy Place later? Alternatively, Christ could have gone up to the Most Holy Place first (He did ask the ladies at the tomb not to touch Him before going up John 20:17) and then went to the right hand of the father. The fact is that Christ is our High Priest (Heb 8), and we know that He did enter into the Most Holy Place (Acts 9), when this happened is not shown from those verses.
We know He went into the Most Holy Place, so what explanation do you have for when that happened? Its no good discrediting another belief if you don't have an alternate reasonable explanation bud...
2. The legalistic part… I think all of us are legalistic to some degree honestly. We all hold onto fundamental beliefs that we have, some to the law and others to faith, while others are works and yet others are faith by works. Some say full immersion baptism is the way, others require you to speak in tongues as a sign of the Holy Spirit, so calling them legalistic is quite fruitless(cut) Really? Even the new testament Jews Knew that the Gentiles had received the Holy Spirit Just like they because they spoke with tongues. Acts 10 and see Acts 19.
Not sure what what you are referring to here... I am speaking about calling people legalistic because they believe something else that you don't. Even the apostles gave Gentiles rules and commands. So are they legalistic too?
Paul called them weak in faith " Receive one who is weak in the faith, but not to disputes over doubtful things. 2 For one believes he may eat all things, but he who is weak eats only vegetables" Romans 14
Again, not sure how this relates to what I was saying... are you saying that a correct mostly vegetarian diet is not healthy for you? And those that don't eat meat are weak in faith?
Study early Church History for that is what it is spekaing of. Alos lets look at the things the Jews wanted to lay on the gentiles as laws, and what the eairly Church founders did set as rules on them concerning keeping of the law. "For it seemed good to the Holy Spirit, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things: 29 that you abstain from things offered to idols, from blood, from things strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well. Farewell"
Really AMBF? Your response to the fact that nobody has ever found a verse in the NT speaking about the changing/replacing of the Sabbath day is 'look at church history'?? Do we now follow history instead of the Word of God?! Again, you have not given one verse where ANYONE removed the Sabbath day and changed it to the first day of the week or the Lords day.
Looking at the verse you gave, if we use that as the rule for what should be done going forward, we are then allowed to lie, steal, kill, take the name of the Lord in vain and commit adultery (to name a few). So the reason that you give for not keeping Sabbath is a very dangerous one bud...
Do you understand Moral "principles"? A principle v. a law? And you can list the moral conduct principles of the law as a whole if you wish, it does include more then what was listed.
What are the "principles" of the law then AMBF? Clearly I have another understanding, so please enlighten me bud... James 2 from the NT tells me that if I break one, I am guilty of all. So would rather understand what this NT writing is speaking about.
“For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing(cut) The dead know nothing regarding this earths knowledge as the people of this earth know it and have knowledge of it.
How is it that nothing, doesn't mean nothing?? other versions say "...know not anything..." how is that not knowing anything, means that they know things?? make some logical sense there bud...
4. I am not following you here and do not understand what you are saying (too many big words). Do Adventists say that satan and his followers will be destroyed forever (as in no longer exist)?YES Or are they saying that satan and his followers will be alive forever but will burn forever?
I believe that Scripture speaks of one group of people having eternal life and another group that gets the wages of sin - which is death...
John 3:16 - those that believe have eternal life
Rom 6:23 - the wicked shall die and not gain eternal life
John 17:3 - Eternal life is knowing the one true God
Gal 6:7-8 - he who sows in the Spirit shall reap eternal life
Rom 2:6-8 - those that seek after righteousness shall have eternal life, those after unrighteousness, wrath and fury
Mat 7:21-23 - Those that do the will of The Father will gain entrance to heaven, those that practice lawlessness will not
1 John 5:11-13 - Those that believe and have Christ gain eternal life
My only issue with people burning forever is that logically, that also means that they are alive forever, which means they also have eternal life just as those who believe do... so how do you correlate the 2?
Please do not provide some scriptural evidence to back up burning for eternity, I have read the many verses and the word eternally/eternal fire/etc is shown.
The concern I have, is that if they burn for eternity, then does that not mean that they too have eternal life?? Please rather show me the way out of this obvious misalignment...
Stay Blessed bud...