How Old Is The Earth?

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Tintin

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Hmmm, in other words, you went to school but it didn't seem to hurt you any.
That's correct. The only thing that hurt me were the bullies.
 
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Tintin

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#23
Yes, even the Christian university I went to had some strange ideas but my loving family and a strong, personal faith helped keep me afloat during the tough times (high school, TAFE and some elements of uni).
 

posthuman

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What is everyone background in Science?

i have degrees in Physics and Mathematics, and a lifelong personal interest in Astronomy and Cosmology.

reading Genesis myself as a child, before ever having a theologian murmuring in my ear telling me how i should understand it, i saw room in the account for a very old universe.
learning the extent of knowledge mankind has gleaned about the history of the cosmos i also see room in the aggregated error of many necessary assumptions and speculations for a much younger universe than what is commonly accepted.

having been, and being transformed by the mystery of Christ working salvation in me, this is exactly what the Spirit teaches my heart:

Where were you when I laid the earth's foundation? Tell me, if you understand.

(Job 38:4 / NIV)
 
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Laodicea

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According to the Bible the earth is 6000 years old. Since no man was there at creation and God was it is better to trust God's word than man's theories.
 
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i have degrees in Physics and Mathematics, and a lifelong personal interest in Astronomy and Cosmology.

reading Genesis myself as a child, before ever having a theologian murmuring in my ear telling me how i should understand it, i saw room in the account for a very old universe.
learning the extent of knowledge mankind has gleaned about the history of the cosmos i also see room in the aggregated error of many necessary assumptions and speculations for a much younger universe than what is commonly accepted.

having been, and being transformed by the mystery of Christ working salvation in me, this is exactly what the Spirit teaches my heart:
Starlight and Time - D Russel Humphreys and Design and Origins in Astronomy - George Mulfinger Jr

two books i recommend
 
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I think it's real bad when someone's attitude is "there's no creator, there's no creator" I think it's even worse when people who say that they are redeemed by the creator agree with them
 

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I think it's real bad when someone's attitude is "there's no creator, there's no creator" I think it's even worse when people who say that they are redeemed by the creator agree with them
The best way to get these people to go away is to simply ignore them.
 
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ji

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The age of the earth is hotly debated among Christians today. Secular scientist insist the erath is millions or even billions of years old. Many Christians agree. How old do you believe the earth is and what do you base your belief on?
The christians who agree Earth is millions of years old and once upon a time (10,000's at beginning of 1900's,then millions,billions,now its going on like that) are fools!!
They must choose to Worship Jesus or 'illuminati science & satan'.
Christians rely on Holy Scripture.And the word of God never change like the values(of the so called scientists) they give for earth's age change.The instruments used to calculate the age of things are non reliable and under constant updation.
That is the only thing that is constant in the so called brainless scientific discoveries-constant updation.

Exodus 20:11
Read Exodus 19,20 chapter to get the clear picture.
It's God Himself declaring it.Not even a Prophet or Angel.
Now if it's still not convincing,you must realize you swayed from Faith big time,and your God now might be charismatic richard dawkins:D.

Mathew 21:28-31 KJV
28 But what think ye? A certain man had two sons; and he came to the first, and said, Son, go work to day in my vineyard.
29 He answered and said, I will not: but afterward he repented, and went.
30 And he came to the second, and said likewise. And he answered and said, I go, sir: and went not.
31 Whether of them twain did the will of his father? They say unto him, The first. Jesus saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That the publicans and the harlots go into the kingdom of God before you.


Puffed up in today's knowledge will not make a Christian to reach Heaven,but simple Christians who came from the state of being forgiven from great and grave sins like the mentioned in Mathew 21:31 will enter because they look a t Jesus and not man's failing charisma.
Very pathetic..
Earth is 6000-7000 years old,and it will be so because God never changes..!!Science of man changes.
If you have some one related to scientific discoveries working in some labs specifically in usa which is funded and controlled by satanists,they throw out people who find amazing discoveries of intelligent design rather than evolution,because they want people to walk in darkness..world is that corrupt.


Caution on subject that mislead people because of curiosity.
"But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased[FONT=arial, sans-serif]."[/FONT]
[FONT=arial, sans-serif]Knowledge of last days will make many run to and fro,and gain nothing eternally.[/FONT]
 
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ji

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The best way to get these people to go away is to simply ignore them.
Not all.
Titus 3:9,10 KJV. We can implement that before ignoring.Some are genuine..
 

oldhermit

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Not all.
Titus 3:9,10 KJV. We can implement that before ignoring.Some are genuine..
Perhaps some are genuine. I have seen a few. It certainly does not take long to be able to distinguish between those who are searching for answers and those who simply want to argue and disrupt. I think the best way to deal with this sort is to simply ignore them.
 

mystdancer50

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It's sad that people would rather believe they happened here by accident, that life has no purpose, that there is nothing waiting after death here, than to live a moral life, because that is what it boils down to. The reason they reject a Creator, the true God, and Jesus Christ is because they don't want to be 'told' how to live their life, they don't want to be held to higher moral standards and they don't want to be accountable for their actions.
 
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ji

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Perhaps some are genuine. I have seen a few. It certainly does not take long to be able to distinguish between those who are searching for answers and those who simply want to argue and disrupt. I think the best way to deal with this sort is to simply ignore them.
Yes,second it.Such cases i don't just ignore them,i escape the place.:)
 
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ji

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It's sad that people would rather believe they happened here by accident, that life has no purpose, that there is nothing waiting after death here, than to live a moral life, because that is what it boils down to. The reason they reject a Creator, the true God, and Jesus Christ is because they don't want to be 'told' how to live their life, they don't want to be held to higher moral standards and they don't want to be accountable for their actions.
Yes,they don't want to live a life that is worthy to be accounted for in God's view.
They just don't get to feel or see the Tender Grace of God that is flowing inside the Christian path.And how simple things
are and that God doesn't condemn but rather want them to repent so that He can Love them like us.
And when they wind up in hell and later stand before judgement they realize the True Love they missed and then they wish there was a second chance to experience that unconditional Love that could change their miseries,when all their life they battled with their hopeless state and unguided ways.In short it becomes late when they realize that with God their lives could have been so Meaningful and Joyful instead of being empty.When they reach hell,they realize they were living in vanity.hell is absence of God's Love,the very essence of being Live that we experience in our hearts with every heart beat comes from God irrespective of a Godly person or ungodly.In hell,they realize that absence.
 

posthuman

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#36
two books i recommend
Starlight and Time - D Russel Humphreys and Design and Origins in Astronomy - George Mulfinger Jr
thanks! put them on my bulletin board but i won't have much time for reading until the academic term is over.

The best way to get these people to go away is to simply ignore them.
i think you're right. it's happened a lot recently to me too, that i've wanted to say things in various situations, but the Spirit has said "don't" -- and then i can clearly see the wisdom of holding my tongue. there is a lot of work yet to be done in my life.

also there is this:

Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise:
and he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding.

(Proverbs 17:28)

so it could be good advice all around.
 

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The christians who agree Earth is millions of years old and once upon a time (10,000's at beginning of 1900's,then millions,billions,now its going on like that) are fools!!
They must choose to Worship Jesus or 'illuminati science & satan'.
Matthew 5:22 comes to mind... :/
Also Galatians 6:10
 

jamie26301

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When they reach hell,they realize they were living in vanity.hell is absence of God's Love,the very essence of being Live that we experience in our hearts with every heart beat comes from God irrespective of a Godly person or ungodly.In hell,they realize that absence.
When they reach hell, hmmm?

Have you ever read Matthew 7 perchance?
 
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Tintin

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Matthew 5:22 comes to mind... :/
Also Galatians 6:10
He comes on a bit strong but what he's saying is essentially true - Too many Christians are happy to hold human reasoning (Science with a basis in evolutionary theory) above what God's Word (His divine revelation from the Holy Spirit) says. It's a compromise, plain and simple and it weakens our Christian witness.
 
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danalee

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The christians who agree Earth is millions of years old and once upon a time (10,000's at beginning of 1900's,then millions,billions,now its going on like that) are fools!!
They must choose to Worship Jesus or 'illuminati science & satan'.
Christians rely on Holy Scripture.And the word of God never change like the values(of the so called scientists) they give for earth's age change.The instruments used to calculate the age of things are non reliable and under constant updation.
That is the only thing that is constant in the so called brainless scientific discoveries-constant updation.

Exodus 20:11
Read Exodus 19,20 chapter to get the clear picture.
It's God Himself declaring it.Not even a Prophet or Angel.
Now if it's still not convincing,you must realize you swayed from Faith big time,and your God now might be charismatic richard dawkins:D.

Mathew 21:28-31 KJV
28 But what think ye? A certain man had two sons; and he came to the first, and said, Son, go work to day in my vineyard.
29 He answered and said, I will not: but afterward he repented, and went.
30 And he came to the second, and said likewise. And he answered and said, I go, sir: and went not.
31 Whether of them twain did the will of his father? They say unto him, The first. Jesus saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That the publicans and the harlots go into the kingdom of God before you.


Puffed up in today's knowledge will not make a Christian to reach Heaven,but simple Christians who came from the state of being forgiven from great and grave sins like the mentioned in Mathew 21:31 will enter because they look a t Jesus and not man's failing charisma.
Very pathetic..
Earth is 6000-7000 years old,and it will be so because God never changes..!!Science of man changes.
If you have some one related to scientific discoveries working in some labs specifically in usa which is funded and controlled by satanists,they throw out people who find amazing discoveries of intelligent design rather than evolution,because they want people to walk in darkness..world is that corrupt.


Caution on subject that mislead people because of curiosity.
"But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased."
Knowledge of last days will make many run to and fro,and gain nothing eternally.
I don't even try and guess such a thing. I've seen evidence and consider myself very learned in science. I've been to the Grand Canyon and I've seen the many layers of Earth and have read about it. However, I have also seen what I believed to be miracles and I believe in the miracles that Jesus showed us. I believe that God can do anything. That is way more important to me in my faith then putting stock into whatever I see out there and perceive. I hate to admit this, but I have seen certain evidence of the corruption and distortion of reality caused by the dark powers - and it's a radical viewpoint, I know, but it would not surprise me that demonic influence could affect reality in a way that can deceive. It's a very, very hard left for most to really, truly take in the parting of the waters, Jesus walking on water, etc. And on the flip side the extreme influence of the fallen on our world. If you've ever had a hallucination you'll know how easily reality is affected - working as a nurse this is a common thing when people become sick, right? Fevers, infections, and then I've got some poor lady who's seeing little penguins running around, haha. Well, we are sick, aren't we? Isn't that what has happened to us? The falling away from God, and Jesus coming to save us. This world is as much of an illusion as is possible. I truly believe that.