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If you think china didn't exist before the flood which was supposedly in 2348 BC then you are honestly misguided extremely as no one in any archaeological field would believe that neither does the evidence support that.

Sure I wasn't in ancient china but it seems short of me making a time machine you will just use your argument of everything is false

Anyway i've said my piece on the matter in this thread for a few hours now, my arguments are based on physical evidence while the defenders of global flood revolve around saying the Bible is right because it's the Bible and just claiming nothing historical can be proven. It's unfortunate but this is why christians get a reputation for being ignorant.
According to biblical genealogy, the flood occurred only [FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1656 [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]years after the creation[/FONT] event.
 
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http://www.ancient.eu.com/china/

If you think china didn't exist before the flood which was supposedly in 2348 BC then you are honestly misguided extremely as no one in any archaeological field would believe that neither does the evidence support that.

Sure I wasn't in ancient china but it seems short of me making a time machine you will just use your argument of everything is false

Anyway i've said my piece on the matter in this thread for a few hours now, my arguments are based on physical evidence while the defenders of global flood revolve around saying the Bible is right because it's the Bible and just claiming nothing historical can be proven. It's unfortunate but this is why christians get a reputation for being ignorant.
Ba-doom! No soup for you! We don't claim that the Bible's history can't be proven. In fact, we believe the opposite - much of the Bible's historicity has been revealed to be true through archaeology etc. I think you'll find we're not the ignorant ones here.
 
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http://www.ancient.eu.com/china/

If you think china didn't exist before the flood which was supposedly in 2348 BC then you are honestly misguided extremely as no one in any archaeological field would believe that neither does the evidence support that.

Sure I wasn't in ancient china but it seems short of me making a time machine you will just use your argument of everything is false

Anyway i've said my piece on the matter in this thread for a few hours now, my arguments are based on physical evidence while the defenders of global flood revolve around saying the Bible is right because it's the Bible and just claiming nothing historical can be proven. It's unfortunate but this is why christians get a reputation for being ignorant.

no your arguments are based on preconcieved ideas and assumptions not based on facts..
 
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This thread is starting to look a lot like a YEC back-patting convention...
 
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This thread is starting to look a lot like a YEC back-patting convention...
What are ya trying to say?

It looks mire like the picture painted By God in Genesis, rather than the picture painted by scientists trying to disprove genesis and a creator?

I would hope so :)
 
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Where does the text say that Cain, when he killed Abel, had other siblings, and that they were living in the land he would be driven to? Where? You are so desperate to prove something you want to believe that you are reading this idea into the text.
“Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned” (Romans 5:12).

We read in 1 Corinthians 15:45 that Adam was “the first man.” God did not start by making a race of men.

Since the Bible describes all human beings as sinners, and we are all related (“And He has made from one blood every nation of men to dwell on all the face of the earth,” Acts 17:26), the gospel makes sense only on the basis that all humans alive and all that have ever lived (except for the first woman6 ) are descendants of the first man Adam. If this were not so, then the gospel could not be explained or defended.

Thus, there was only one man at the beginning—made from the dust of the earth (Genesis 2:7).

This also means that Cain’s wife was a descendant of Adam. She couldn’t have come from another race of people and must be accounted for from Adam’s descendants.

In Genesis 3:20 we read, “And Adam called his wife’s name Eve, because she was the mother of all living.” In other words, all people other than Adam are descendants of Eve—she was the first woman.

Eve was made from Adam’s side (Genesis 2:21–24)—this was a unique event. In the New Testament, Jesus (Matthew 19:4-6) and Paul (Ephesians 5:31) use this historical and onetime event as the foundation for the marriage of one man and one woman.

Also, in Genesis 2:20, we are told that when Adam looked at the animals, he couldn’t find a mate—there was no one of his kind.

All this makes it obvious that there was only one woman, Adam’s wife, from the beginning. There could not have been a “race” of women.

Thus, if Christians cannot defend that all humans, including Cain’s wife, can trace their ancestry ultimately to Adam and Eve, then how can they understand and explain the gospel? How can they justify sending missionaries to every tribe and nation? Therefore, one needs to be able to explain Cain’s wife, to illustrate that Christians can defend the gospel and all that it teaches.

Cain was the first child of Adam and Eve recorded in Scripture (Genesis 4:1). He and his brothers, Abel (Genesis 4:2) and Seth (Genesis 4:25), were part of the first generation of children ever born on this earth. Even though these three males are specifically mentioned, Adam and Eve had other children.

In Genesis 5:4 we read a statement that sums up the life of Adam and Eve: “After he begot Seth, the days of Adam were eight hundred years; and he had sons and daughters.”

During their lives, Adam and Eve had a number of male and female children. In fact, the Jewish historian Josephus wrote, “The number of Adam’s children, as says the old tradition, was thirty-three sons and twenty-three daughters.”

Scripture doesn’t tell us how many children were born to Adam and Eve, but considering their long life spans (Adam lived for 930 years—Genesis 5:5), it would seem logical to suggest there were many. Remember, they were commanded to “be fruitful, and multiply” (Genesis 1:28).

If we now work totally from Scripture, without any personal prejudices or other extrabiblical ideas, then back at the beginning, when there was only the first generation, brothers would have had to marry sisters or there wouldn’t have been any more generations!

We’re not told when Cain married or many of the details of other marriages and children, but we can say for certain that Cain’s wife was either his sister or a close relative.

A closer look at the Hebrew word for “wife” in Genesis reveals something readers may miss in translation. It was more obvious to those speaking Hebrew that Cain’s wife was likely his sister. (There is a slim possibility that she was his niece, but either way, a brother and sister would have married in the beginning.) The Hebrew word for “wife” used in Genesis 4:17 (the first mention of Cain’s wife) is ishshah, and it means “woman/wife/female.”

And Cain knew his wife [ishshah], and she conceived and bore Enoch. And he built a city, and called the name of the city after the name of his son—Enoch (Genesis 4:17).

The word ishshah is the word for “woman,” and it means “from man.” It is a derivation of the Hebrew words ‘iysh (pronounced: eesh) and enowsh, which both mean “man.” This can be seen in Genesis 2:23 where the name “woman” (ishshah) is given to one who came from Adam.

And Adam said: “This is now bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; She shall be called Woman [ishshah], because she was taken out of Man [iysh]” (Genesis 2:23).

Thus, Cain’s wife is a descendant of Adam/man. Therefore, she had to be his sister (or possibly niece). Hebrew readers should be able to make this connection easier; however, much is lost when translated.

Many people immediately reject the conclusion that Adam and Eve’s sons and daughters married each other by appealing to the law against brother-sister marriage. Some say that you can’t marry your relation. Actually, if you don’t marry your relation, you don’t marry a human! A wife is related to her husband before they are married because all people are descendants of Adam and Eve—all are of one blood. This law forbidding close relatives marrying was not given until the time of Moses (Leviticus 18–20). Provided marriage was one man for one woman for life (based on Genesis 1–2), there was no disobedience to God’s law originally (before the time of Moses) when close relatives (even brothers and sisters) married each other.

Remember that Abraham was married to his half-sister (Genesis 20:12).8 God’s law forbade such marriages, but that was some four hundred years later at the time of Moses.

Biological Deformities

Today, brothers and sisters (and half-brothers and half-sisters, etc.) are not currently permitted by law to marry and have children.

Now it is true that children produced in a union between brother and sister have a greater chance to be deformed. As a matter of fact, the closer the couple are in relationship, the more likely it is that any offspring will be deformed. It is very easy to understand this without going into all the technical details.

Each person inherits a set of genes from his or her mother and father. Unfortunately, genes today contain many mistakes (because of sin and the Curse), and these mistakes show up in a variety of ways. For instance, people let their hair grow over their ears to hide the fact that one ear is lower than the other. Or perhaps someone’s nose is not quite in the middle of his or her face, or someone’s jaw is a little out of shape. Let’s face it, the main reason we call each other normal is because of our common agreement to do so!

The more closely related two people are, the more likely it is that they will have similar mistakes in their genes, inherited from the same parents. Therefore, brother and sister are likely to have similar mistakes in their genetic material. If there were to be a union between these two that produces offspring, children would inherit one set of genes from each of their parents. Because the genes probably have similar mistakes, the mistakes pair together and result in deformities in the children.

Conversely, the further away the parents are in relationship to each other, the more likely it is that they will have different mistakes in their genes. Children, inheriting one set of genes from each parent, are likely to end up with some of the pairs of genes containing only one bad gene in each pair. The good gene tends to override the bad so that a deformity (a serious one, anyway) does not occur. Instead of having totally deformed ears, for instance, a person may have only crooked ones. (Overall, though, the human race is slowly degenerating as mistakes accumulate generation after generation.)

However, this fact of present-day life did not apply to Adam and Eve. When the first two people were created, they were perfect. Everything God made was “very good” (Genesis 1:31). That means their genes were perfect—no mistakes. But when sin entered the world because of Adam (Genesis 3:6), God cursed the world so that the perfect creation then began to degenerate, that is, suffer death and decay (Romans 8:22). Over a long period of time, this degeneration would have resulted in all sorts of mistakes occurring in the genetic material of living things.

Some claim that the passage in Genesis 4:16–17 means that Cain went to the land of Nod and found a wife. Thus, they conclude there must have been another race of people on the earth who were not descendants of Adam, who produced Cain’s wife.

Then Cain went out from the presence of the LORD and dwelt in the land of Nod on the east of Eden. And Cain knew his wife, and she conceived and bore Enoch. And he built a city, and called the name of the city after the name of his son—Enoch.

From what has been stated above, it is clear that all humans, Cain’s wife included, are descendants of Adam. However, this passage does not say that Cain went to the land of Nod and found a wife. John Calvin in commenting on these verses states:

"From the context we may gather that Cain, before he slew his brother, had married a wife; otherwise Moses would now have related something respecting his marriage. Cain was married before he went to the land of Nod. He didn’t find a wife there but “knew” (had sexual relations with) his wife."

This makes sense in light of what Nod is, too. Nod means “wandering” in Hebrew. So when Cain went to the land of Nod, he was literally going to the land of wandering, not a place full of people.

Some claim that there had to be lots of people on the earth other than Adam and Eve’s descendants; otherwise Cain wouldn’t have been fearful of people wanting to slay him because he killed Abel.

First of all, one reason that someone would want to harm Cain for killing Abel is if that person was a close relation of Abel!

Secondly, Cain and Abel were born quite some time before the event of Abel’s death. Genesis 4:3 states:

And in the process of time it came to pass that Cain brought an offering of the fruit of the ground to the LORD.

Note the phrase “in the process of time.” We know Seth was born when Adam was 130 years old (Genesis 5:3), and Eve saw him as a replacement for Abel (Genesis 4:25). Therefore, the time period from Cain’s birth to Abel’s death may have been 100 years or more—allowing plenty of time for other children of Adam and Eve to marry and have children. By the time Abel was killed, there may have been a considerable number of descendants of Adam and Eve involving several generations.

One of the reasons many Christians cannot answer the question about Cain’s wife is that they tend to look at today’s world and the problems that would be associated with close relations marrying, and they do not look at the clear historical record God has given to us.

They try to interpret Genesis from our present situation rather than understand the true biblical history of the world and the changes that have occurred because of sin. Because they are not building their worldview on Scripture but taking a secular way of thinking to the Bible, they are blinded to the simple answers.

Genesis is the record of the God who was there as history happened. It is the Word of One who knows everything and who is a reliable Witness from the past. Thus, when we use Genesis as a basis for understanding history, we can make sense of evidence which would otherwise be a real mystery. You see, if evolution is true, science has an even bigger problem than Cain’s wife to explain—namely, how could man ever evolve by mutations (mistakes) in the first place, since that process would have made everyone’s children deformed? The mere fact that people can produce offspring that are not largely deformed is a testimony to creation, not evolution. (Ken Ham AIG)
 
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So tell all us stupid Christians. How could the highest mountain be covered with water, and the entire earth not be flooded?

Sometimes I do not think you people think when you come up with these ideas. Water can not just cover the highest mountain without covering the whole earth. water and gravity do not work that way now does it?
"Hills," in Genesis 7:19, is Strong's #2022, the same word translated "mountains" in verse 20. This word, in the context of Noah's flood, is not telling us that the water was higher than 28,000 foot mountains. It is the same with land, earth, and world. They are often translated from the same Hebrew word. Please, do your homework before posting these dogmatic comments. All Genesis is telling us is that the flood covered the highest hills---in the land where the flood occurred.
 
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"Hills," in Genesis 7:19, is Strong's #2022, the same word translated "mountains" in verse 20. This word, in the context of Noah's flood, is not telling us that the water was higher than 28,000 foot mountains. It is the same with land, earth, and world. They are often translated from the same Hebrew word. Please, do your homework before posting these dogmatic comments. All Genesis is telling us is that the flood covered the highest hills---in the land where the flood occurred.

lol. Now who is twisting?

You forgot to finish the passage out.


Genesis 7:19 The water prevailed more and more upon the earth, so that all the high mountains everywhere under the heavens were covered.


Whether you have hills or mountains. Tha passage states clearly. Under the whole heavens, everywhere, Not in a local place. Thus your hermeneutics still is lacking.

And yes it can be translated hill, it can also be translated mountain. And since the ark is said to have rested on top of the highest mountain range on earth (even today) how did it get up there if the flood was just a local flood.

Your the one who has not studied my friend.
 
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Lol the pygmies are severely inbred dude and have their own tribes. What do you think tribes and clans and the whole family alliance system of all ages is? It's not just Hamite pygmies because pygmies are 100% human, homo sapiens. This implies their short stature is due to DNA and mutation, not to some darwinite monkey offshoot race. Dwarfism, giantism, all these things are found in all the races. The races are just family ties, and history and genetics today which is hard science proves along with tradition and history their origins and the fact the human family is well mixed in at this point in time.

For the African pygmies I asume they are Hamitic mostly because you mentioned pygmies from Africa where Hams sons settled, primarily the Cushites, Mizraimites(Egyptians), and sons of Put. The Canaanites mostly were in the Levant region along with the race of the Phillistines who later settled the coast who are the sons of Mizraim's son Phillistim and possibly mixed in with some of the Japhethites whom settled in the northern meditterannean region.

However this be a whole other debate we could launch many debates and ponderances off of in regards to what is really race, what's the genetics and humanity mean, etc.

First let's establish one thing, pygmies are 100% human. They did not evolve from lemurs and us from chimps that is ridiculous (plus stalin tried it and it failed thus proving we cannot even hybridize with the primates thus we cannot trully evolve and also we are not related to them by the Darwin fabled ancestor in his Theory of Man (this is to differentiate between Theory of Origin of Species or as one could pun it, Darwin's Amoebanation lol.) Thus ironically one must either redefine evolution back to what is more Biblically sound and it basically becomes them trying to take Genetics away from Creationists (Genetics study founded by a Christian monk Gregor Mendel the intellectual defeater of Darwin.)

I could give you the soundest proof in the world but would you believe it? Lol, look for it for yourself, it's quite fascinating really. Is that not what true science is; observation and experimentation?

However, if you will at least just look into the possibilities here I will give you a wikipedia article (not saying wikipediai is canonized, merely it gives some background info that can be explored more in depth) Also, I personally am moreso into the study of people and their cultures and customs, histories and societies, rather than their genetic make-up personally, so I will also give you one video here on a specific tribe of pygmies in the land of modern Africa though for your own research plus I find it a little more engaging than readign wikipedia, but I still encourage examining both.

Lol obviously our intellectual debate here transcends numerous issues which I would encourage you to investigate and also encourage you to look at each claim and judge for yourself, but before you judge, at least investigate it a bit. If science is trully just observation and experimentation, and you like science, simply observe lol.

Wikipedia article on dwarfism which I think with what it presents displays the fact dwarfism is genetic thus inherited and even also proves it can occur within any of the races descended of Ham, Shem, or Japheth or any combo of the three as there are many combos as the long story of collective histories after the Flood shows as is also the case when just arbitrarily looking at height, skin tone, body frame, etc. Also since pygmies are found in all races and varying cultures, I assume they became genetically isolated either be geography (often deep forest or islands) or through social isolation (height bigotry, enslavement, geographic isolation, etc.) : Dwarfism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A more secular observation of a modern pygmy tribe in Africa by mainstream France 24 Hour News and a problem of theres from a few years ago (not sure if it is still on-going) with oppression by the Bantu race/tribe of their area:
Pygmies: endangered people - YouTube
(caution some tribal topless nudity towards end so I will post link only not the video.)
You are still trying to convince us that people as diverse as African Pygmies evolved out of Noah's three sons. Not only that, but you would have us believe that this happened in just a few generations. How naïve can one get?

History, science, and archaeology prove that humans were as varied at the time of the flood, as they are now. Pictures, thousands of years old in the pyramids of Egypt prove this.

No, the Bible does not require us to believe that Ham's descendants, in just a few generations, evolved into humans as diverse as African Pygmies. Stop promoting this ridiculous universal flood theory, you are causing millions of young people to not take the Bible seriously.

 
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Stop promoting this ridiculous universal flood theory, you are causing millions of young people to not take the Bible seriously.

No my friend, that would be you.

You have noah and his family taking flack for a year. Building this huge ship. And being hated by many people. when all God had to do was move him and his family to higher ground. Which within a year, he could have easily done.

Talk about a waste!
 
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lol. Now who is twisting?

You forgot to finish the passage out.


Genesis 7:19 The water prevailed more and more upon the earth, so that all the high mountains everywhere under the heavens were covered.


Whether you have hills or mountains. Tha passage states clearly. Under the whole heavens, everywhere, Not in a local place. Thus your hermeneutics still is lacking.

And yes it can be translated hill, it can also be translated mountain. And since the ark is said to have rested on top of the highest mountain range on earth (even today) how did it get up there if the flood was just a local flood.

Your the one who has not studied my friend.
The phrase, "under the whole heaven" occurs many times in scripture. Follow it through and context will reveal that it is not limited in meaning, to every thing on planet earth. Neither does is mean this in Genesis 7. Again, stop promoting this ridiculous universal flood interpretation, it's preventing millions of young people from taking an otherwise serious look at the Bible.
 
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The phrase, "under the whole heaven" occurs many times in scripture. Follow it through and context will reveal that it is not limited in meaning, to every thing on planet earth. Neither does is mean this in Genesis 7. Again, stop promoting this ridiculous universal flood interpretation, it's preventing millions of young people from taking an otherwise serious look at the Bible.

Sorry, it is only used once in Job. He calls it "the ends of the earth" and "everything under the heavens"

Try again.

And stop with your preventing crap. It is not adding to the discussion.
 
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I am not Angela but, just out of curiosity, what "problems" did you have in mind?

The problem is he has it in his head that dinosaurs are millions of years old, so how can dinosaurs have been part of the 6 day creation only 6000 years ago? The evidence he sees is millions of years old evidence. So I want scientific evidence that its 6000 years old. Do we creationists have this kind of evidence?
 

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The problem is he has it in his head that dinosaurs are millions of years old, so how can dinosaurs have been part of the 6 day creation only 6000 years ago? The evidence he sees is millions of years old evidence. So I want scientific evidence that its 6000 years old. Do we creationists have this kind of evidence?
Yea, but I wanted him to admit it.
 

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The problem is he has it in his head that dinosaurs are millions of years old, so how can dinosaurs have been part of the 6 day creation only 6000 years ago? The evidence he sees is millions of years old evidence. So I want scientific evidence that its 6000 years old. Do we creationists have this kind of evidence?
I had thought maybe he would challenge the number of animal species taken aboard the ark.
 

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looking at genesis..
DAY 1)
3 And God said, Let there be light: 2 Cor. 4.6 and there was light
Day 4)
14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
15 and let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
18 and to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.
19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

how long did a day last in the first three days??
The standard of measurement is the same - "the evening and the morning."
 

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"Hills," in Genesis 7:19, is Strong's #2022, the same word translated "mountains" in verse 20. This word, in the context of Noah's flood, is not telling us that the water was higher than 28,000 foot mountains. It is the same with land, earth, and world. They are often translated from the same Hebrew word. Please, do your homework before posting these dogmatic comments. All Genesis is telling us is that the flood covered the highest hills---in the land where the flood occurred.
You must have really flunked physics. The most basic principle of water behavior is that water seeks its own level. What this means is that no matter what the geographical typology, no flood can possibly cover the highest peaks of that region and remain so for 150 days unless it is a global phenomena.
 
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Please read the links I provided, because you clearly have no understanding of evolution what-so-ever. Nor do you understand carbon dating and its parameters.

We have multiple dating methods, and we use multiple dating methods just in case one dating method doesn't work. If we use two dating methods and the results are different, then we continue to use more dating methods. If one dating method points to 15,000 years and three others point to 800 years old, then we can safely conclude the material dated is around 800 years old.
It's quite clear "you clearly have no understanding of creation what-so-ever." You remind me of one of your leaders.

Evolutionist biologist and geneticist Richard Lewontin wrote:

"We take the side of science in spite of the patent absurdity of some of its constructs, in spite of its failure to fulfill many of its extravagant promises of health and life, in spite of the tolerance of the scientific community for unsubstantiated just-so stories, because we have a prior commitment, a commitment to materialism. It is not that the methods and institutions of science somehow compel us to accept a material explanation of the phenomenal world, but, on the contrary, that we are forced by our a priori adherence to material causes to create an apparatus of investigation and a set of concepts that produce material explanations, no matter how counter-intuitive, no matter how mystifying to the uninitiated. Moreover, that materialism is an absolute, for we cannot allow a Divine Foot in the door."

Futher more "Nor do you understand carbon dating and its parameters."

All radiometric dating methods are based on assumptions about events that happened in the past. If the assumptions are accepted as true (as is typically done in the evolutionary dating processes), results can be biased toward a desired age. In the reported ages given in textbooks and other journals, these evolutionary assumptions have not been questioned, while results inconsistent with long ages have been censored. When the assumptions were evaluated and shown faulty, the results supported the biblical account of a global Flood and young earth. Christians should not be afraid of radiometric dating methods. Carbon-14 dating is really the friend of Christians, and it supports a young earth.

Your rush to use science to disprove the age of the earth are shameful. You, as others like you, claim to have the facts given to you by science. A science that blinds you to the truth as it is mostly based on your assumptions and predisposed beliefs.
 
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You are still trying to convince us that people as diverse as African Pygmies evolved out of Noah's three sons. Not only that, but you would have us believe that this happened in just a few generations. How naïve can one get?

History, science, and archaeology prove that humans were as varied at the time of the flood, as they are now. Pictures, thousands of years old in the pyramids of Egypt prove this.

No, the Bible does not require us to believe that Ham's descendants, in just a few generations, evolved into humans as diverse as African Pygmies. Stop promoting this ridiculous universal flood theory, you are causing millions of young people to not take the Bible seriously.

The African Pygmies are diverse that their racial lineage has stayed the same for approximately 5000 years? Is France 24 Hour News naive?

Lol as for images in egypt's pyramids, that's a huge topic we could go upon. Seems to me indeed the evolutionist model for early man is complete bullcrap. How is it the sons of Mizraim are depicting and giving their point of view of events from the Bible, a more advanced technology than thought imaginable in the bronze age, and stuff which speaks of quite a more whack world in a short space of time than one can describe in post lol?

How is it possible the pygmies became isolated geographically and culturally 5000 years ago that their genetic make-up has retained the gene for dwarfism and smaller than what moderniists call "normal height"?

As for to stop promoting the World FLood Theory. Sorry there mate, this is perhaps the oldest theory in human recorded history. Not just the Christians speak of this event. It's too big to ignore one could pun.

As for causing young people to not take the Bible seriously. What do you know of the mind of young people? I could write a whole diatribe right here on that statement and a topic unto itself. However I will just say this. Observe the difference between your age and mine my elder lol, then look at the all around age dynamics of just this topic and awesome intellectual discussion lol :)
 
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No my friend, that would be you.

You have noah and his family taking flack for a year. Building this huge ship. And being hated by many people. when all God had to do was move him and his family to higher ground. Which within a year, he could have easily done.


Talk about a waste!
Your slip is showing. Read the 'book' before you show your lack of knowledge. It took Noah and his helpers over 100 years "Building this huge ship". Not 1 year.