Limiting family size

[Kathleen]

In China you are not allowed to have more that 2 children - if you do this is against the law. Most families in China want there name to be carried on and therefor any girls that God has blessed them with are genreally tossed on the street untill a male is born. As a result of this more that half of the population of China is now homosexual.

In Britian around 2014 it has been preposed that a petition or vote will happen to see if we should make it so no more than 2 children can be born to one couple.

My dad and mum had a total of 6 children. I am no#6 of 6. But my dad has a total of 3 siblings. 2 of them did not have any children so my dad basically took there 2 if you know what I mean? - DO you think this would be acceptable?

So the problem is we have far too many people on the planet already for our environment and resources to handle, and the number is only getting bigger.

One of the ways that could solve this problem is by introducing a limit to family sizes, either strictly enforced, or by a "child tax" on couples with more than say, 2 children.

Would you support such a scheme were it brought in?

 

[dustyzafu]

As a result of this more that half of the population of China is now homosexual.

*chokes on his coffee*

One of the ways that could solve this problem is by introducing a limit to family sizes, either strictly enforced, or by a "child tax" on couples with more than say, 2 children. Would you support such a scheme were it brought in?

I can not imagine it will work out well. When a family who can not afford the children it already has becomes pregnant, will we put an extra tax on them? Eventually something will become necessary, but the stress on the world's resources is not yet problematic enough that any solution is acceptable.

 

[Leilaii425]

Ive always been for limiting family size, but i mean it as in, i think its irresponsible to have like 10 to 15 kids... You shouldnt have kids taking care of the kids you had because YOU cant take care of those kids because you have to many kids to take care of!!!! that was a mouth full lol I think as long as you are finacially able to take care of your children and you can personally raise them without having to have their brothers and sisters do it, then its all good. I dont think its a good idea to limit family size to only being able to have two children.

 

[Kathleen]

Ive always been for limiting family size, but i mean it as in, i think its irresponsible to have like 10 to 15 kids... You shouldnt have kids taking care of the kids you had because YOU cant take care of those kids because you have to many kids to take care of!!!! that was a mouth full lol I think as long as you are finacially able to take care of your children and you can personally raise them without having to have their brothers and sisters do it, then its all good. I dont think its a good idea to limit family size to only being able to have two children.

I second that

*chokes on his coffee*
I can not imagine it will work out well. When a family who can not afford the children it already has becomes pregnant, will we put an extra tax on them? Eventually something will become necessary, but the stress on the world's resources is not yet problematic enough that any solution is acceptable.

I second that also - the choke on coffee thing was funny

 

[Mearna]

Ive always been for limiting family size, but i mean it as in, i think its irresponsible to have like 10 to 15 kids...

Why? God told Adam & Eve to be fruitful and multiply. He didn't say something absurd like "Hey, two babies, that's it. Kthnx."

 

[Kathleen]

Why? God told Adam & Eve to be fruitful and multiply. He didn't say something absurd like "Hey, two babies, that's it. Kthnx."

The world back then was completly diffrent than now.- Obviously lol.

But do you not agree that it would be stupid to have 10 children if your income was only 200 pounds a weeks. It is totally irresponsible. although god does say g forth and multiply - im sure he ment within the resources we had - i.e money, food and space :S

 

[Leilaii425]

Why? God told Adam & Eve to be fruitful and multiply. He didn't say something absurd like "Hey, two babies, that's it. Kthnx."

hmm maybe you didnt read all of my post, because i said at the bottom i wasnt for people only having just two kids, i SAID i feel it irresponsible to have so many children the parents arent raising the kids their brothers and sisters are... Just because it says be fruitful and multiply doensnt mean have so many children your broke and homeless because you cant afford them all. God gave us common sense.

 

[Kathleen]

God gave us common sense.

Yet again you make me smile

 

[Mearna]

The world back then was completly diffrent than now.- Obviously lol.

Oh? So the bible is outdated, then.

But do you not agree that it would be stupid to have 10 children if your income was only 200 pounds a weeks. It is totally irresponsible. although god does say g forth and multiply - im sure he ment within the resources we had - i.e money, food and space :S

We might think it's stupid to have what we think is an abnormally large family, however if you only obtained 200 pounds a week, God provides. Money, food, and space. You just have to trust him.

 

[Leilaii425]

Yet again you make me smile

hahah well thank you my dear.. right back at ya!

 

[Groundhog]

I'm joining the rest of you in saying that I'm against imposing family size llimits. Especially if that size is 2 kids! What?! I mean, I could understand if it were 15 or 20. I mean, then it would at least be debatable.

But the truth is that these measures are meant to curb population growth, which became a big problem for China and, as I understand it, has also become a problem for England, especially the London area. I think a better idea would be encouraging people to move somewhere else. Overpopulation is not a problem except in urban areas. The earth is not becoming crowded--urban areas are becoming crowded. And I think it would be much more humane to offer vouchers to volunteers to move somewhere than to limit the number of kids people can have. I'm sure that this could be a purely volunteer program because plenty of people would volunteer.

 

[Kathleen]

hahah well thank you my dear.. right back at ya!

awww

Oh? So the bible is outdated, then.


We might think it's stupid to have what we think is an abnormally large family, however if you only obtained 200 pounds a week, God provides. Money, food, and space. You just have to trust him.

Did I ever say the bible was outdated - either you misunderstood or you are wisting what i said - which was that the world is completley diffrent then than what it is now.

When God said these things - money wasn't invented - you could eat any crops aound you, any meat you raised. Now though people have to work for an income- and everything is paid for. My parents had 6 children, I am the youngest, i dunno bout you, but I know what it is like to live in a big family. You are right God will provide - he did for us, I am still alive and well.

But all that I am saying is it irresponsible to have so many kids not to mention the lack of time the parents will have for each indiviual child. I am only of a family of 6 children - 8 all toghter, and sometimes I feel like we all need to have alone time with parents but the fact of the matter is that most parents have to work for a living and they dont have so much time - and liealii is right the majority of the time brothers and sisters raise them - my eldest brother used to change my nappy - while my mum did my twin and my dad was out working. Not to mention they had a full time Guest House to run aswell

 

[Maddog]

Limiting family sizes would be a horrendous blow to personal liberty, not to mention the ethical problems it could raise. Bad idea.

 

[Mearna]

All I'm saying, Kathleen, is that there is a higher power to things that we are concerned with. We cannot possibly judge on what amount of children is appropriate or not appropriate.

I, personally, feel that whatever children you were given is a gift and that was meant to be given to you. Know what I mean?

 

[BXblessings2you]

And I think it would be much more humane to offer vouchers to volunteers to move somewhere than to limit the number of kids people can have. I'm sure that this could be a purely volunteer program because plenty of people would volunteer.

Good idea. Still this would be difficult in places like China because there isn't much of an in-between. You could live in a crowded city or move out to a less crowded area with lower standards of living.

 

[BXblessings2you]

All I'm saying, Kathleen, is that there is a higher power to things that we are concerned with. We cannot possibly judge on what amount of children is appropriate or not appropriate.

I, personally, feel that whatever children you were given is a gift and that was meant to be given to you. Know what I mean?

I don't think she means to say that a child should be rejected. But having a lot of children for the sake of having a lot of children is not necessary. In the past many, many children died at birth or while young. This is not so much the case today. Families also needed a lot help farming and such.

 

[oopsies]

I have a question! What if you don't believe in using contraceptions but you want to have "intimacy" with your wife/husband? Getting 15 kids might not take a very long time...?

 

[loveschild]

Well thank God your parents didn't want to make the family size so small or you wouldn't be here.

 

[MahogonySnail]

In your society, the number of children is already limited, thanks to a capitalist system that measures value with money. If you want to have 10 kids, you'll have to have $3 million. That's why most only have 1 or 2 these days. Well, we have the opposite problem to China. We have fewer anglo saxon babies born and more people coming from China, so our government will pay you some money if you have a child , so that our racial proportions are relatively even or lean towards caucasian.

 

[iraasuup]

Why do people feel it necassary to have children at all?

When I say 'people' I mean Christians.

I am constantly condemned for the fact I don't have children. I've been married 5 years and it's almost like people assume I should already have children, or if not I should be pregnant by now.

Says who? Aren't I entitled to make my own choice? Wouldn't it be irresponsible of me to just allow myself to fall pregnant, if I haven't sufficient means of being able to provide for the child I may have?

There's a lot to be taken into consideration. Having a child is LIFELONG responsibility. You are responsible for them FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE. How they turn out, the choices they make.. everything reflects on you. So you wanna be ready for that! You can't just put them up on a shelf like a doll, when you're done playing with them, or when hey frustrate you.

Also, MS made a really good point. The Australian government here just hands out money left right and centre. Have a baby, get a lump sum payment, then get cash every fortnight ongoing until the child turns 16. Have more than one child, get the same for EACH CHILD! Having children has become like a career choice for many women here, simply because they can earn more money (HANDED TO THEM FROM THE GOV'T) by having children, then by actually going out and working for it. The rest of us have to work, and PAY TAXES, to fund those who want to have crazy amounts of children, and then not parent them properly.

The system is crazy, and I won't support it!