The Sabbath is Here!

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  1. Self righteousness is righteousness men invent

    Sunday worship is man invented and an affront to the word of God
    Monday worship is man invented and an affront to the word of God
    Friday worship is man invented and an affront to the word of God

    Jesus says obedience does matter

    Those who teach otherwise are in poor shape

    Repent and you will be fine
    Jesus promises that,


    God's righteousness is what he invented
    what he created
    and if you dare to do what YOU want any way YOU want you should read the story of CAIN to see what happens to those people

    Not what YOU want, but what God wants

    false religions teach MANS sefl righteousness
    the ones SELF righteous are keeping sunday since there is no Bible verse tells you so you invented it
    hence self righteous

    Ever Book in Bible front to back teaches Sabbath is the day God promised to bless you

    that means something to me

    you can make up stuff all you want
    accuse me all you want
    you will NOT get the Sabbath blessing keeping sunday
    thats a fact
    and its your choice.



    False religions reject the word of God and invent their own religion
    Sunday is the image of the beast
    if you keep it you will get the plagues.
    Cause and effect and PLENTY of warning
    Revelation says so


    Sabbath is not self righteousness
    it is Bible righteousness
    Jesus righteousness
    Sunday is self righteousness
    because you yourself invented it without one shred of proof from God


Acts 20:7 On the first day of the week, when we were gathered together to break bread, Paul began talking to them, intending to leave the next day, and he prolonged his message until midnight.
1 Cor. 16:2 On the first day of every week each one of you is to put aside and save, as he may prosper, so that no collections be made when I come.

"gathered together to break bread" means that they were keeping the Lord's Supper (Luke 22:19)

I am not quoting these scriptures to attack the Sabbath, but to disagree with the statement that Sunday worship is manmade.

I also believe that Jesus rose early on Sunday morning.
 
Sorry a little off subject yet connected as to why I see the rest as every day is the Sabbath rest to me anyway

Shouldn't this analogy hold true for forgiveness, been forgiven or not before i was ever born here?
If Married why would I ask to be married again?
So why do we or are many caught up in asking for more forgiveness after the forgiveness that is provided for all at the cross

Either we are forgiven whether one sins or not? Or Christ's sacrifice was not complete?
A big choking steak to chew, swallow, and digest to come to full maturity if God will permit.
Heb 5:10-6:6
I love my wife. I love my job. Of course I don't love my job as much as my wife. Unfortunately at times my job requires 100% of my focus so when she calls, I would ask her if we could speak later on when I got home. When I get home, we talk. We talk about many things. So much so that the evening's not enough because there is housekeeping, among other things to do. So she asks me if we could talk some other time. I ask when. She says how about on the day she's off work. I say ok, I would take that day off too.
 
We are living in a day where many who believe in Christ think it's "game over", all is said and done, and Messiah gave us a free pass to do as we please, then we are ruptured right after Church or after a football game where our team won. Our hearts are far from doing our Creator's will, even though He sent His Son to show us how it's done, for Messiah taught by example, and said for us to follow Him.

History tells us how our predecessors pleased and displeased God. Yet, as it has always been, so it shall be until He comes back to rule with a rod, then every knee shall bend, every mouth confess He is Lord...and all will worship Him exactly as He has spoken.

Kings 22:[SUP]8 [/SUP]And Hilkiah the high priest said unto Shaphan the scribe, I have found the book of the law in the house of the Lord. And Hilkiah gave the book to Shaphan, and he read it.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]And it came to pass, when the king had heard the words of the book of the law, that he rent his clothes.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]Go ye, enquire of the Lord for me, and for the people, and for all Judah, concerning the words of this book that is found: for great is the wrath of the Lord that is kindled against us, because our fathers have not hearkened unto the words of this book, to do according unto all that which is written concerning us.
I understand it's typo but may be not. It makes me laugh but then it makes me think too. Is it going to be a rapture or a rupture for me :)
 
Land Sabbath

Leviticus 25:4-5 (KJV)
[SUP]4 [/SUP]But in the seventh year shall be a sabbath of rest unto the land, a sabbath for the LORD: thou shalt neither sow thy field, nor prune thy vineyard.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]That which groweth of its own accord of thy harvest thou shalt not reap, neither gather the grapes of thy vine undressed: for it is a year of rest unto the land.

Years ago my wife and I read his scripture and thought we’d give it a try. Growing up on a farm we rotated crops, but only in a government program called soil bank did we let the land rest. It had nothing to do with the Biblical rest for the land, it had everything to do with money, and the manipulation of the market.

The year following this 7[SUP]th[/SUP] year, what I would call a soil sabbath, we had a garden like never before in the area. It produced with a great yield per square foot like no other year previous.

I thought about why this would be, and the first thing, of course, was that the Bible said so, and God blessed. Then I started to think about why was this working naturally. The first thing I thought about was hauling manure out of the barn during winter, and spreading on the fields. The soil representing our heart in the parable of the sower and the seed came to mind as we all have crap in our lives at one time or another. This scripture comes to mind.

Romans 5:3 (KJV)
[SUP]3 [/SUP]And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience;

Worms like the crap, for they eat it and their castings are the most fertile dirt. Then I looked up what worm meant in Biblical terms and found that it represents being reminded like this scripture of a possessive worm that continuously reminds one of what could have been after it’s too late.

Mark 9:43-48 (KJV)
[SUP]43 [/SUP]And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
[SUP]44 [/SUP]Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
[SUP]45 [/SUP]And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
[SUP]46 [/SUP]Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
[SUP]47 [/SUP]And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire:
[SUP]48 [/SUP]Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.

The worms like to congregate next to roots, and distribute the nutrients of their castings from the manure throughout the soil when the soil is not agitated or plowed. The vegetation that grows in the seventh year is also good fertilizer as it is plowed under on the 8[SUP]th[/SUP] year, sustaining and growing the worm population.

In the end the soil fertility is distributed throughout the ground, and the land is ready to start production again for another 6 years. This is God’s creation and law of nature, and not the law God gave to Moses, which reminds me of this scripture.

Romans 2:12 (KJV)
[SUP]14 [/SUP]For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:

When seeing this in parable, we see a convocation like in the 7[SUP]th[/SUP] month trumpets, atonement, and the Feast of Tabernacles, being called, covered, and reminded of God’s mighty works, and meditating on all that we can possibly consume in our hearts. We adhere to hope because of faith that is put in our hearts because of past experiences.

Whether 7 days or seven years, there is good reason for this meditation, and convocation.

Hebrews 10:25 (KJV)
[SUP]25 [/SUP]Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.
And when man didn't listen and ruined the land, He made sure the land got rest - as much as 70 years. He loves His creations.
 
Acts 20:7 On the first day of the week, when we were gathered together to break bread, Paul began talking to them, intending to leave the next day, and he prolonged his message until midnight.
1 Cor. 16:2 On the first day of every week each one of you is to put aside and save, as he may prosper, so that no collections be made when I come.

"gathered together to break bread" means that they were keeping the Lord's Supper (Luke 22:19)

I am not quoting these scriptures to attack the Sabbath, but to disagree with the statement that Sunday worship is manmade.

I also believe that Jesus rose early on Sunday morning.

there is more than one way to read break bread...

Barclay's has this...

It talks twice about breaking of bread. In the early Church there were two closely related things. One was what was called the Love Feast. To it all contributed and it was a real meal, often the only proper meal that poor slaves got all week. Here Christians ate in loving fellowship with each other. The other was the Lord's Supper which was observed during or immediately after the Love Feast. It may well be that we have lost something of great value in the happy togetherness of the common meal. It marked as nothing else could the family spirit of the Church.

Bullinger's has...

break bread. See note on Act_2:42.

OK the note on Acts 2:42...

breaking of bread. This was the common meal. Compare verses:##Act_44:46 and Mat_14:19. Isa_58:7.

Adam Clarke...

To break bread - To break eucaristia, the eucharist, as the Syriac has it; intimating, by this, that they were accustomed to receive the holy sacrament on each Lord’s day. It is likely that, besides this, they received a common meal together. Some think the αγαπη, or love feast, is intended.

Opinions differ.

As far as the first day of the week?

Act 20:7 Now on the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul, ready to depart the next day, spoke to them and continued his message until midnight.

Let's see what it really was...

The word for first here is...

G3391
μία
mia
mee'-ah
Irregular feminine of G1520; one or first: - a (certain), + agree, first, one, X other.

And means "first". Now the word for "of the" (notice that day is italicised? Means it is not in the orginals)

G3588
ὁ, ἡ, τό
ho hē to
ho, hay, to
The masculine, feminine (second) and neuter (third) forms, in all their inflections; the definite article; the (sometimes to be supplied, at others omitted, in English idiom): - the, this, that, one, he, she, it, etc.

Means "of the". Now for the word that translated week...

G4521
σάββατον
sabbaton
sab'-bat-on
Of Hebrew origin [H7676]; the Sabbath (that is, Shabbath), or day of weekly repose from secular avocations (also the observance or institution itself); by extension a se'nnight, that is, the interval between two Sabbaths; likewise the plural in all the above applications: - sabbath (day), week.

Means "Sabbath". So what does Acts 20:7 really say? The Diaglott does a good job here...

Act 20:7 In and the first of the sabbaths, having been assembled of us to break bread, the Paul discoursed to them, being about to depart on the morrow; continued and the discourse till midnight.

What is the first of the Sabbaths?

Again, from Bullinger's...

first, &c. = first day of the sabbaths, i.e. the first day for reckoning the seven sabbaths to Pentecost. It depended upon the harvest (Deu_16:9), and was always from the morrow after the weekly sabbath when the wave sheaf was presented (Lev_23:15). In Joh_20:1 this was the fourth day after the Crucifixion, "the Lord's Passover. "Compare App-156. This was by Divine ordering. But in A.D. 57 it was twelve days after the week of unleavened bread, and therefore more than a fortnight later than in A.D. 29.

What are these Sabbaths that this was the first of?

Lev 23:15 And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven sabbaths shall be complete:
Lev 23:16 Even unto the morrow after the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto the LORD.

This was the first Sabbath in the counting of seven Sabbaths to determine Pentecost. Wasn't a "Sunday go to meetin'" after all.
 
Acts 20:7 On the first day of the week, when we were gathered together to break bread, Paul began talking to them, intending to leave the next day, and he prolonged his message until midnight.
1 Cor. 16:2 On the first day of every week each one of you is to put aside and save, as he may prosper, so that no collections be made when I come.

"gathered together to break bread" means that they were keeping the Lord's Supper (Luke 22:19)

I am not quoting these scriptures to attack the Sabbath, but to disagree with the statement that Sunday worship is manmade.

I also believe that Jesus rose early on Sunday morning.
I'm not attacking Sunday worship but just an honest question which I have asked my pastors during my church days but some of the answers were very disturbing.
Why do we have the Saturday night, late Sunday morning and Sunday evening services when the point was to worship the rising Son in the early morning?
 
I love my wife. I love my job. Of course I don't love my job as much as my wife. Unfortunately at times my job requires 100% of my focus so when she calls, I would ask her if we could speak later on when I got home. When I get home, we talk. We talk about many things. So much so that the evening's not enough because there is housekeeping, among other things to do. So she asks me if we could talk some other time. I ask when. She says how about on the day she's off work. I say ok, I would take that day off too.

Awesome, Brother awesome. i see this as have been there as well. Learned this, as I go know that god is with me no matter what, and my wife sees this the same way.
For God is not first in our life's and Family is not second with Job third

No, rather God is our life's whether at work, Church or home

Through Son Christ we all we need for life and Godliness, a gift from Father through Son
 
I understand it's typo but may be not. It makes me laugh but then it makes me think too. Is it going to be a rapture or a rupture for me :)

You know behavior modification is done by trust in Father and not self trying to behave, all self behavior does is get in the way.
Just think if Christ did the work, then it would have been of self, and he did nothing unless the Father told him to do and or say
Could this be the same for us here today, I mean to walk as Christ walked would it not have to be by Faith and none of our works?
Is this why he said to the disciples to wait? Who when the day of Pentecost came did the works there, the disciples or God in the form of the Holy Ghost through them? So is this for us as well to be only vessels used by God to speak through and never giving credit to self. Did Christ ever speak of himself?
 
And when man didn't listen and ruined the land, He made sure the land got rest - as much as 70 years. He loves His creations.

Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! God is Faithful, thanking God for God's Mercy through Son Christ to all that beleive
 
I would be very interested in seeing how you count three days and three nights from Friday sunset to before daylight on Sunday.

He had died before sunset, so that day thursday night to Friday might is the first day, then Friday night to Saturday niught the second day, and morning came on Sunday and found risen, third day. that is what i see is
 
I'm not attacking Sunday worship but just an honest question which I have asked my pastors during my church days but some of the answers were very disturbing.
Why do we have the Saturday night, late Sunday morning and Sunday evening services when the point was to worship the rising Son in the early morning?

One of the many reasons I now see every day alike and by this spiritual observance I am in the Sabbath rest for eternity here and now, worshiping Father in Spirit and truth continuously, from no matter where I am at, have entered his courts with thanksgiving and praise
 
Awesome, Brother awesome. i see this as have been there as well. Learned this, as I go know that god is with me no matter what, and my wife sees this the same way.
For God is not first in our life's and Family is not second with Job third

No, rather God is our life's whether at work, Church or home

Through Son Christ we all we need for life and Godliness, a gift from Father through Son
I didn't love her much when we were younger. She's attractive alright, we have a lot in common alright but with time the fire cooled down. We have a lot not in common. I found at times she could be annoying and she became a beckon call. I looked at others. We had fights. I was doing all the work and she's there doing nothing and demands much of my attention.
It took a long time for me to realize how much she has been doing for me without complaining and what would I be without her. The best is, she's been with me through good and bad. Lots and lots of good.
He's much more than that.
Psalm 23 and 92.
 
I would be very interested in seeing how you count three days and three nights from Friday sunset to before daylight on Sunday.

Well the bible very plainly says that he had already risen when Mary got there early on the first day of the week.

The bible also says that they rushed to bury him so that they would be done before the Sabbath.

Jews started their days in the evening. So barely caught 1 Friday, then 2 Saturday, then 3 Sunday sometime before Mary arrived.
 
He had died before sunset, so that day thursday night to Friday might is the first day, then Friday night to Saturday niught the second day, and morning came on Sunday and found risen, third day. that is what i see is

You are a half day short here. If He was in the tomb three days and three nights (John 11:9), 72 hours, He would have risen at the same time of day He was buried.
 
Well the bible very plainly says that he had already risen when Mary got there early on the first day of the week.

The bible also says that they rushed to bury him so that they would be done before the Sabbath.

Jews started their days in the evening. So barely caught 1 Friday, then 2 Saturday, then 3 Sunday sometime before Mary arrived.

This subject needs it's own thread but there were two Sabbaths that week...

Joh 19:31 The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.
 
I didn't love her much when we were younger. She's attractive alright, we have a lot in common alright but with time the fire cooled down. We have a lot not in common. I found at times she could be annoying and she became a beckon call. I looked at others. We had fights. I was doing all the work and she's there doing nothing and demands much of my attention.
It took a long time for me to realize how much she has been doing for me without complaining and what would I be without her. The best is, she's been with me through good and bad. Lots and lots of good.
He's much more than that.
Psalm 23 and 92.

Marriage is a hard work to come to the end and enter the rest that is provide for one through Christ. When one does they cease from their works as God has since the creation on thge seventh day, seeing a far off into the day his son would bring redemption to the world.
The message that was given and is given we are by Christ reconciled, so thus be reconciled in response as to it is all done in Father through Son and we can now rejoice being way to busy in the rejoicing, sin has not got a chance to creep in, and I am personally thankful whenever it does sneak its way in. 1. It reminds of my need fro him 24/7 and to I get be remain humble through being buffeted anytime I think I know and get to learn from the mistakes in trust
I find 2 Cor 12:7 on to quite enlightening