Passover/Unleavened Countdown . . .For Those Who Celebrate Them

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Kerry,

So far, I've seen you present a whole lot of insults and childishness, not a lot of facts. I ask you to provide me with a scripture that commands me not to follow the Feasts. Unless you can provide one, you are a troll. Happy trolling.
 
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Kerry

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John 3:16 any questions. I have been called many things, I guess this is a knew one. Where do you find law in that verse?

Jesus loves you and law cannot save you it only condems
 
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I found some information on this site, I thought was very good. I love to learn about the One who died for me, He loved even me, a sinner. My Salvation.

Part Two

When Yeshua (Jesus) performed the act to what has become the Lord's Supper, we now know that it was the third cup of the Passover Seder, one of the things that He did not do was to take the fourth cup. This cup is considered as the "cup of consummation" based on the promise that God will take his own people to be with him. By not taking this cup He pointed out a future event, the messianic banquet found in Revelation, lets look at some scriptures

Matthew 26:29
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But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father's kingdom.

Revelation 3:20
20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

Revelation 19:6-9
6 And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth. 7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready. 8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints. 9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.

 
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We must stop thinking and saying "The law of God never saved anyone" From the time of Adam and Eve sinners were saved according to the laws of God. Adam was saved by Grace as God sacrificed the lamb for them. Abel was saved by following God's law of the animal sacrifice. He believed and obeyed God's order to sacrifice an animal for his sin. Cain was lost because he disobeyed God law of the sac. lamb; Cain brought his veggies but God did not accept them, Cain was lost because he did not have faith and obedience to God. The true chosen of God have always been saved by Grace and in keeping God's laws. "The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul". What don't you people understand about this simple truth. Faith is always seen in obedience. Now that Jesus has done His sacrifice work, once for all,we are still saved by Grace, and our faith, and keeping the new laws of God. Love to all, Hoffco
 

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Might I ask why those who are celebrating the Passover when it has nothing to do with them?
 
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The "sader" Passover meal of the Jews, of today, is not at all, like the Passover Jesus kept with His disciples. The Sader meal is the Christian's interpretation of the old T. Passover. It is a beautiful presentation of Christ fulfillment of the Passover of the O.T. Karraster, How do you know there were 4 cups in the O.T. Passover? Love to all, Hoffco
 

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Celebrating Passover is a sin. Eating the Passover feast is a sin. In essence it is saying that the cross is not sufficient.
Passover is all about the cross.
 

John_agape

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Might I ask why those who are celebrating the Passover when it has nothing to do with them?
Passover is like Easter, but without bunny rabbits laying colourful eggs in bushes.

Seriously though, Passover is illustrating Christ and the cross.
 
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We must stop thinking and saying "The law of God never saved anyone" From the time of Adam and Eve sinners were saved according to the laws of God. Adam was saved by Grace as God sacrificed the lamb for them. Abel was saved by following God's law of the animal sacrifice. He believed and obeyed God's order to sacrifice an animal for his sin. Cain was lost because he disobeyed God law of the sac. lamb; Cain brought his veggies but God did not accept them, Cain was lost because he did not have faith and obedience to God. The true chosen of God have always been saved by Grace and in keeping God's laws. "The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul". What don't you people understand about this simple truth. Faith is always seen in obedience. Now that Jesus has done His sacrifice work, once for all,we are still saved by Grace, and our faith, and keeping the new laws of God. Love to all, Hoffco
No they were all saved by FAITH,they obeyed because they believed. Their works DID NOT save them. Did you even read Hebrews 11?

11 Now faith is confidence in what we hope for and assurance about what we do not see.2 This is what the ancients were commended for.
3 By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God’s command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible.
4 By faith Abel brought God a better offering than Cain did. By faith he was commended as righteous, when God spoke well of his offerings. And by faith Abel still speaks, even though he is dead.
5 By faith Enoch was taken from this life, so that he did not experience death: “He could not be found, because God had taken him away.”[a] For before he was taken, he was commended as one who pleased God. 6And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him.
7 By faith Noah, when warned about things not yet seen, in holy fear built an ark to save his family. By his faith he condemned the world and became heir of the righteousness that is in keeping with faith.
8By faith Abraham, when called to go to a place he would later receive as his inheritance,obeyed and went, even though he did not know where he was going. 9 By faith he made his home in the promised land like a stranger in a foreign country; he lived in tents, as did Isaac and Jacob, who were heirs with him of the same promise. 10 For he was looking forward to the city with foundations, whose architect and builder is God. 11 And by faith even Sarah, who was past childbearing age, was enabled to bear children because she[b] considered him faithful who had made the promise. 12 And so from this one man, and he as good as dead, came descendants as numerous as the stars in the sky and as countless as the sand on the seashore.
13 All these people were still living by faith when they died. They did not receive the things promised; they only saw them and welcomed them from a distance, admitting that they were foreigners and strangers on earth. 14 People who say such things show that they are looking for a country of their own. 15 If they had been thinking of the country they had left, they would have had opportunity to return. 16 Instead, they were longing for a better country—a heavenly one. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for he has prepared a city for them.
17 By faith Abraham, when God tested him, offered Isaac as a sacrifice. He who had embraced the promises was about to sacrifice his one and only son, 18 even though God had said to him, “It is through Isaac that your offspring will be reckoned.”[c] 19 Abraham reasoned that God could even raise the dead, and so in a manner of speaking he did receive Isaac back from death.
20 By faith Isaac blessed Jacob and Esau in regard to their future.
21 By faith Jacob, when he was dying, blessed each of Joseph’s sons, and worshiped as he leaned on the top of his staff.
22 By faith Joseph, when his end was near, spoke about the exodus of the Israelites from Egypt and gave instructions concerning the burial of his bones.
23 By faith Moses’ parents hid him for three months after he was born, because they saw he was no ordinary child, and they were not afraid of the king’s edict.
24 By faith Moses, when he had grown up, refused to be known as the son of Pharaoh’s daughter. 25 He chose to be mistreated along with the people of God rather than to enjoy the fleeting pleasures of sin. 26 He regarded disgrace for the sake of Christ as of greater value than the treasures of Egypt, because he was looking ahead to his reward. 27 By faith he left Egypt,not fearing the king’s anger; he persevered because he saw him who is invisible. 28 By faith he kept the Passover and the application of blood, so that the destroyer of the firstborn would not touch the firstborn of Israel.
29 By faith the people passed through the Red Sea as on dry land; but when the Egyptians tried to do so, they were drowned.
30 By faith the walls of Jericho fell, after the army had marched around them for seven days.
31 By faith the prostitute Rahab, because she welcomed the spies, was not killed with those who were disobedient.[d]
32 And what more shall I say? I do not have time to tell about Gideon, Barak, Samson and Jephthah, about David and Samuel and the prophets, 33 who through faith conquered kingdoms,administered justice, and gained what was promised; who shut the mouths of lions,34 quenched the fury of the flames, and escaped the edge of the sword; whose weakness was turned to strength; and who became powerful in battle and routed foreign armies. 35 Women received back their dead, raised to life again. There were others who were tortured, refusing to be released so that they might gain an even better resurrection. 36 Some faced jeers and flogging, and even chains and imprisonment. 37 They were put to death by stoning;[e] they were sawed in two; they were killed by the sword. They went about in sheepskins and goatskins,destitute, persecuted and mistreated— 38 the world was not worthy of them. They wandered in deserts and mountains, living in caves and in holes in the ground.
39These were all commended for their faith, yet none of them received what had been promised, 40 since God had planned something better for us so that only together with us would they be made perfect.

No where does it say it was because they obeyed the law. No one is EVER justified by the law only by faith. Abraham was JUSTIFIED by faith,he was NOT justified by the law. No where does the Bible say they were saved by the law.
 

john832

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No they were all saved by FAITH,they obeyed because they believed. Their works DID NOT save them. Did you even read Hebrews 11?


No where does it say it was because they obeyed the law. No one is EVER justified by the law only by faith. Abraham was JUSTIFIED by faith,he was NOT justified by the law. No where does the Bible say they were saved by the law.
No one is saying that we are saved by Law. Perhaps you can show us the scriptures that say we are saved by DISOBEDIENCE. I'll save you some time and list them all...
 

john832

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Yes it is not that they knew that then but isn't keeping the Passover remembrance of what God did for the Jews?
Luk 22:15 And he said unto them, With desire I have desired to eat this passover with you before I suffer:
Luk 22:16 For I say unto you, I will not any more eat thereof, until it be fulfilled in the kingdom of God.
Luk 22:17 And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and said, Take this, and divide it among yourselves:
Luk 22:18 For I say unto you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine, until the kingdom of God shall come.
Luk 22:19 And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me.
Luk 22:20 Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you.
 
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No one is saying that we are saved by Law. Perhaps you can show us the scriptures that say we are saved by DISOBEDIENCE. I'll save you some time and list them all...

Did you actually read the post I was addressing? That is what he said that they were saved by FOLLOWING the law. Nice try though.

 

john832

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Did you actually read the post I was addressing? That is what he said that they were saved by FOLLOWING the law. Nice try though.

Yes I did and you keep wanting completely divorce obedience from grace. You keep saying that Law and Grace are mutually EXCLUSIVE. In reality they are mutually INCLUSIVE and salvation is give to those who do obey the Law...

Heb 5:9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;

Mat 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

It is a matter of Law AND Grace and this seems to be a major problem to you.
 

john832

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John 3:16 any questions. I have been called many things, I guess this is a knew one. Where do you find law in that verse?

Jesus loves you and law cannot save you it only condems
Well then, what do you do with this?

Mat 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

or this...

Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
 
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Celebrating Passover is a sin. Eating the Passover feast is a sin. In essence it is saying that the cross is not sufficient.
Celebrating birthday is a sin because once you're born the birthday is fulfilled. Likewise celebrating Christmas is a sin because he's only born once in flesh.
Celebrating wedding anniversary is a sin because once you are married the wedding is fulfilled. Likewise celebrating anything in Christ is a sin because the church has already married to Christ.
Commemorating the cross is a sin because it's already accomplished the purpose.
 

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No they were all saved by FAITH,they obeyed because they believed. Their works DID NOT save them. Did you even read Hebrews 11?


No where does it say it was because they obeyed the law. No one is EVER justified by the law only by faith. Abraham was JUSTIFIED by faith,he was NOT justified by the law. No where does the Bible say they were saved by the law.
No one here is talking about being justified , or saved by the law or commandments. The law CANNOT save or justify us before God.

Application of the law or commands is for a completely different reason.