Why do men listen to women, in the world.

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jkalyna

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From a Christian perspective, God created Man, and created women for Man.
Since the fall what happened to Man, in the world it seems Man was created for her, women
Eve swayed Adam into committing the worse so to say, crime of becoming an accomplice to satans deceptive mind.
It you read the thousands of times, the girlfriend, of wife, or other, would tell the opposite sex, the male, to commit murder, vandalism, theft, robbery, lies, all kinds of evils, and he does it. Because of man's disobedience in the Garden of Eden, he was cast out.
What makes man to be under the authority, and feet of women to commit such evil.
There are those in prisons, for doing just that, cast out from society, into a life of chains.
How low has man really become, as an animal. You could train a dog, to attack, to be aggressive, vicious, against others, as the women is it's master, Have men lost their masculinity and authority since the fall, since Adam was in charge of the land, and all things. Or has the curse come upon not only man's physically, as God said, man will toil, and work with the sweat from his brow, until he returns back into the DUST of the earth, and because of the curse, has it also affected his mind, and broken his authority, masculinity, and leadership. Speaking about the world, not believers. Any insight, why
men have or become as puppets in the hands of worldly women. It looks like men have become as an animal under the command of it's master, the women. What do you think?

 
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tucksma

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From a Christian perspective, God created Man, and created women for Man.
Since the fall what happened to Man, in the world it seems Man was created for her, women
Eve swayed Adam into committing the worse so to say, crime of becoming an accomplice to satans deceptive mind.
It you read the thousands of times, the girlfriend, of wife, or other, would tell the opposite sex, the male, to commit murder, vandalism, theft, robbery, lies, all kinds of evils, and he does it. Because of man's disobedience in the Garden of Eden, he was cast out.
What makes man to be under the authority, and feet of women to commit such evil.
There are those in prisons, for doing just that, cast out from society, into a life of chains.
How low has man really become, as an animal. You could train a dog, to attack, to be aggressive, vicious, against others, as the women is it's master, Have men lost their masculinity and authority since the fall, since Adam was in charge of the land, and all things. Or has the curse come upon not only man's physically, as God said, man will toil, and work with the sweat from his brow, until he returns back into the DUST of the earth, and because of the curse, has it also affected his mind, and broken his authority, masculinity, and leadership. Speaking about the world, not believers. Any insight, why
men have or become as puppets in the hands of worldly women. It looks like men have become as an animal under the command of it's master, the women. What do you think?

At first men took it too far and became too authoritative. They thought they ruled everything. They used verses that showed they had leadership over women and families but forgot parts like "Love your wife as Christ loves you". Sense men messed up, the feminist movement happened. Its like a rubber-band. Men pulled it one way and let go, and now its too far the other way.

So the reason men have become treated like idiots is because men took their leadership roles to the extreme.
 
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jkalyna

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At first men took it too far and became too authoritative. They thought they ruled everything. They used verses that showed they had leadership over women and families but forgot parts like "Love your wife as Christ loves you". Sense men messed up, the feminist movement happened. Its like a rubber-band. Men pulled it one way and let go, and now its too far the other way.

So the reason men have become treated like idiots is because men took their leadership roles to the extreme.
This is a good way to look at it. The rubber-band lost it's elasticity from the wear and tear of emotional struggles in this world without Christ, and so I think did the responsibility broke. Being mature is a sign of being responsible. It went out the window.
 
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TaylorTG

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As a woman, you wish men would exert more authority?

No problem!

​Lets draft some laws and present them to our presidents!
 
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J-Kay-2

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#5
I know having been raised in the era of husband is head of home,
the Father is respected. Today there is not much knowledge of this.

May I say I knew my Dad was boss. I knew I had to obey. It was
the way it was to be. God said to honor our parents. Children obey
your parents.

Then I get married. I will say my husband, to me, was like my Father.
I had to obey him. It was just the way it was supposed to be. I was
never abused. I have been loved and cared for now over 50 years.

But.... I still see him as the head of the home.

He and I have watched the commercials and shake our head at the way
men are made to look like wimps. Since we don't watch TV Sit Coms, I
can't say I know a lot about how they are now. The last we tried to watch
was The Old New Christine... and that was enough....

My personal opinion has always been the reason we have men turning to
men is because women have been towering over them. They became easy
to bed, and had nothing to offer what the man is due, and that is respect.
Why else would we be where we are today ? Satan is sly. Jesus is still able
to help men and women see what the Father created male and female for.
We can pray for those who are trying to really live the Scriptural way.
 
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MsLimpet

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I know having been raised in the era of husband is head of home,
Father is respected, is totally an issue regarding why they are the
way they are today.

May I say I knew my Dad was boss. I knew I had to obey. It was
the way it was to be. God said to honor our parents. Children obey
your parents.

Then I get married. I will say my husband, to me, was like my Father.
I had to obey him. It was just the way it was supposed to be. I was
never abused. I have been loved and cared for now over 50 years.

But.... I still see him as the head of the home.

He and I have watched the commercials and shake our head at the way
men are made to look like wimps. Since we don't watch TV Sit Coms, I
can't say I know a lot about how they are now. The last we tried to watch
was The Old New Christine... and that was enough....

My personal opinion has always been the reason we have men turning to
men is because women have been towering over them. They became easy
to bed, and had nothing to offer what the man is due, and that is respect.
Why else would we be where we are today ? Satan is sly. Jesus is still able
to help men and women see what the Father created male and female for.
We can pray for those who are trying to really live the Scriptural way.
Colossians 3:18-19 (KJV)
[SUP]18 [/SUP]Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord.
[SUP]19 [/SUP]Husbands, love your wives, and be not bitter against them.

God ordained from the beginning that the husband should be the head of the household. The Holy Spirit says: "In like manner, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, even if any obey not the word, they may without the word be gained by the behavior of their wives; beholding your chaste behavior coupled with fear." (1 Pet. 3:1, 2.) It is proper for the wife to show what she regards as right, then to submit to his decisions. She may influence, but not control him.
 
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jkalyna

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As a woman, you wish men would exert more authority?

No problem!

​Lets draft some laws and present them to our presidents!
That is a blast of laughs, no I wouldn't want to live in some land where women get beat up. Authority, yes, isn't that the bibles way, obey your husbands even as Sarah did. Well anyway, saw a man with a stick at church once, that's going a little to far...lolllll
 
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jkalyna

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Colossians 3:18-19 (KJV)
[SUP]18 [/SUP]Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord.
[SUP]19 [/SUP]Husbands, love your wives, and be not bitter against them.

God ordained from the beginning that the husband should be the head of the household. The Holy Spirit says: "In like manner, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, even if any obey not the word, they may without the word be gained by the behavior of their wives; beholding your chaste behavior coupled with fear." (1 Pet. 3:1, 2.) It is proper for the wife to show what she regards as right, then to submit to his decisions. She may influence, but not control him.
yep, so we live in like two different worlds on earth, one is the world, the other is in the Lord, wonder which one is winning.
 
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jkalyna

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As a woman, you wish men would exert more authority?

No problem!

​Lets draft some laws and present them to our presidents!
The problem is there are too many problems when the man has a lease and collar.
 
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jkalyna

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Samson listened to Deliliah and had his eyes poked out, his strenght lost, his hair shaved, and was lead around as an ox plowing the land. So then it's true, the ungodly women will utterly DESTROY A MAN, for it was never meant to be, it's against the design of the creator.
 
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psalm6819

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It is not actually being controlled by a woman. They are being controlled by thier own lusts. A beautirul woman can call the shots because she knows the power of desire. Married and single men will bring shame on themselves and thier families, betray friends, blow thier money, even lose thier jobs, betray thier countries because of lustful desire.
 
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MsLimpet

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It is not actually being controlled by a woman. They are being controlled by thier own lusts. A beautirul woman can call the shots because she knows the power of desire. Married and single men will bring shame on themselves and thier families, betray friends, blow thier money, even lose thier jobs, betray thier countries because of lustful desire.
God ordained from the beginning that the husband should be the head of the household. The Holy Spirit says: "In like manner, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, even if any obey not the word, they may without the word be gained by the behavior of their wives; beholding your chaste behavior coupled with fear." (1 Pet. 3:1, 2.) It is proper for the wife to show what she regards as right, then to submit to his decisions. She may influence, but not control him.
 
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Meh just because Man is supposed to have a lil more responsibilities doesn't mean he shouldn't listen to women. From reading the Bible I'd say there are several good instances of men listening to women and women to men in many parts working together. Not even in a romantic way though of course that as well, but rather as a society. Book of Esther is good for both examples of this with Mordecai and Esther and even Xerxes in some cases all working together to save the jewish exiles from a nefarious plot.
 
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Kerry

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GEN 21:12

And God said unto Abraham, Let it not be grievous in thy sight because of the lad, and because of thy bondwoman; in all that Sarah hath said unto thee, hearken unto her voice; for in Isaac shall thy seed be called.
 
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From a Christian perspective, God created Man, and created women for Man.
Since the fall what happened to Man, in the world it seems Man was created for her, women
Eve swayed Adam into committing the worse so to say, crime of becoming an accomplice to satans deceptive mind.
It you read the thousands of times, the girlfriend, of wife, or other, would tell the opposite sex, the male, to commit murder, vandalism, theft, robbery, lies, all kinds of evils, and he does it. Because of man's disobedience in the Garden of Eden, he was cast out.
What makes man to be under the authority, and feet of women to commit such evil.
There are those in prisons, for doing just that, cast out from society, into a life of chains.
How low has man really become, as an animal. You could train a dog, to attack, to be aggressive, vicious, against others, as the women is it's master, Have men lost their masculinity and authority since the fall, since Adam was in charge of the land, and all things. Or has the curse come upon not only man's physically, as God said, man will toil, and work with the sweat from his brow, until he returns back into the DUST of the earth, and because of the curse, has it also affected his mind, and broken his authority, masculinity, and leadership. Speaking about the world, not believers. Any insight, why
men have or become as puppets in the hands of worldly women. It looks like men have become as an animal under the command of it's master, the women. What do you think?


You have brought up many valid points.

Even in Biblical times, females were the instruments though which evil reached man.

Sin never meant anything UNTIL it reached Adam....and it reached him through a female...

 

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I've heard some say that Adam deliberately took the dive into death ...laying down his life so to speak..a picture of Christ for His Church.
 

p_rehbein

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You have brought up many valid points.

Even in Biblical times, females were the instruments though which evil reached man.

Sin never meant anything UNTIL it reached Adam....and it reached him through a female...

whaaaaaa???

seriously?

goodness.............
 

TheAristocat

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From a Christian perspective, God created Man, and created women for Man.
Since the fall what happened to Man, in the world it seems Man was created for her, women
Eve swayed Adam into committing the worse so to say, crime of becoming an accomplice to satans deceptive mind.
It you read the thousands of times, the girlfriend, of wife, or other, would tell the opposite sex, the male, to commit murder, vandalism, theft, robbery, lies, all kinds of evils, and he does it. Because of man's disobedience in the Garden of Eden, he was cast out.
What makes man to be under the authority, and feet of women to commit such evil.
There are those in prisons, for doing just that, cast out from society, into a life of chains.
How low has man really become, as an animal. You could train a dog, to attack, to be aggressive, vicious, against others, as the women is it's master, Have men lost their masculinity and authority since the fall, since Adam was in charge of the land, and all things. Or has the curse come upon not only man's physically, as God said, man will toil, and work with the sweat from his brow, until he returns back into the DUST of the earth, and because of the curse, has it also affected his mind, and broken his authority, masculinity, and leadership. Speaking about the world, not believers. Any insight, why
men have or become as puppets in the hands of worldly women. It looks like men have become as an animal under the command of it's master, the women. What do you think?

No man has authority over a woman who does not give it freely. And no woman has authority over a man who does not give it freely. It's the same in our relationship with Christ. But I will say this: I've seen a type of woman who is an active leader, cannot respect men who let her lead and cannot respect men who attempt to lead her. And that kind of woman only hurts herself.