Why do men listen to women, in the world.

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jkalyna

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It is not actually being controlled by a woman. They are being controlled by thier own lusts. A beautirul woman can call the shots because she knows the power of desire. Married and single men will bring shame on themselves and thier families, betray friends, blow thier money, even lose thier jobs, betray thier countries because of lustful desire.
I know, beauty on the outside, but some of these women even kill, so there just plain evil. It is more at hand than before. I've walked into 2 places, to buy something, and the guys were busy setting up appt. on line with women advertiseing themselves, and they don't even care if the customers see, one said, this one. A need for love for men an attraction to the eye, but yes it is LUST.
 
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jkalyna

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No man has authority over a woman who does not give it freely. And no woman has authority over a man who does not give it freely. It's the same in our relationship with Christ. But I will say this: I've seen a type of woman who is an active leader, cannot respect men who let her lead and cannot respect men who attempt to lead her. And that kind of woman only hurts herself.
agreeing, without Jesus, there has been so much sexual abuse of women, and deep within they really hate men, and just get even, I've heard both sides of this saying, they want to get even with men, and they want to get even with women. A soul sickness, Jesus came to heal the broken hearted, the affected issue of this, is that men do not read minds, and do not see this illness within. So advise men, stay away from those who are not believers, they will hurt you, because of this pain from the past, hurting people hurt others.
 
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jkalyna

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#23
whaaaaaa???

seriously?

goodness.............
Seeing p Rhebein brought along the snakes, and the worms, which r these {{???} yuk, p Rhebein
 
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jkalyna

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#24
I've heard some say that Adam deliberately took the dive into death ...laying down his life so to speak..a picture of Christ for His Church.
Anything that comes from the fruit of unrightousness, is bait. Ego, greed, wanting to eat more, know more, temptations, these are things that attack the five senses within us God created, oh why not, touch this, etc.
 

homwardbound

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Samson listened to Deliliah and had his eyes poked out, his strenght lost, his hair shaved, and was lead around as an ox plowing the land. So then it's true, the ungodly women will utterly DESTROY A MAN, for it was never meant to be, it's against the design of the creator.
Think, deep, why is this, what controls man? PUBERTY, so women can take that for to lead to whatever their motive is.
Now if man give up puberty, and God sees fit to show man this and man follows God over his earthly putter, then man is freed from the control of the flesh, and might come to know the truth in love to all
 
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jkalyna

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You have brought up many valid points.

Even in Biblical times, females were the instruments though which evil reached man.

Sin never meant anything UNTIL it reached Adam....and it reached him through a female...

Read something from the dead sea scrolls about women, that they are not to be trusted, this was written from the old testament point of view, it speaks about a prostitute that she is a deep pit, and will reduce you to a crumb, satan uses beauty, he once himself was the most beautiful angel, and he knows all the tricks to use to those who sell themselves over to him, first their soul, then life, and everything else. There is nothing being beautiful, a catch the world wants, seeing themselves as corrupt, and decaying, as sin decays for it is death, but if the world only knew that Jesus is the most beautiful Character that we really need, and not a deception.
 

homwardbound

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God ordained from the beginning that the husband should be the head of the household. The Holy Spirit says: "In like manner, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, even if any obey not the word, they may without the word be gained by the behavior of their wives; beholding your chaste behavior coupled with fear." (1 Pet. 3:1, 2.) It is proper for the wife to show what she regards as right, then to submit to his decisions. She may influence, but not control him.
Yes truth, yet how far does one go to submit Sister? The enemy uses these verses and all verses to get his own way, are we not called to peace? And is God a respecter of persons?
Does God view anyone better than the other or above one another.
I think it states the woman yes made for man as a "Help-meet" not to be controlled or to control
 
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jkalyna

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Think, deep, why is this, what controls man? PUBERTY, so women can take that for to lead to whatever their motive is.
Now if man give up puberty, and God sees fit to show man this and man follows God over his earthly putter, then man is freed from the control of the flesh, and might come to know the truth in love to all
The lord says, or the words says, that the whole world lieth in darkness, and men without the spirit of life within them, which is Christ, are just walking dead men, death decays, and this is what it really is, like zombies wrapped in rags decaying, within, but decorated on the outside. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you, notice it says HE, no wonder HE tricked Eve.
 

homwardbound

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Anything that comes from the fruit of unrightousness, is bait. Ego, greed, wanting to eat more, know more, temptations, these are things that attack the five senses within us God created, oh why not, touch this, etc.
Yes Sister there is a lot of "Fly Paper" as bait set out in this world every day. For God is still not of this world, and friendship with the world is as an enemy toward God and most using being forgiven to sin, thinking like the Corinthians did.

So all I can say to all is stop, think, and respond to God in no, I personally do not want to harm anyone over the fact you loved me so much that you forgave me before I was ever born all sin or sins I could ever commit by you Jesus, Thank you, now please teach me how to respond, and not harm my neighbor and love them the same as you have and do love me? A forgiven person in your sight not mine or this world's sight.
See no not one better than the other, I do not care how righteous you might think you are or not, we are all equal
 
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ji

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From a Christian perspective, God created Man, and created women for Man.
Since the fall what happened to Man, in the world it seems Man was created for her, women
Eve swayed Adam into committing the worse so to say, crime of becoming an accomplice to satans deceptive mind.
It you read the thousands of times, the girlfriend, of wife, or other, would tell the opposite sex, the male, to commit murder, vandalism, theft, robbery, lies, all kinds of evils, and he does it. Because of man's disobedience in the Garden of Eden, he was cast out.
What makes man to be under the authority, and feet of women to commit such evil.
There are those in prisons, for doing just that, cast out from society, into a life of chains.
How low has man really become, as an animal. You could train a dog, to attack, to be aggressive, vicious, against others, as the women is it's master, Have men lost their masculinity and authority since the fall, since Adam was in charge of the land, and all things. Or has the curse come upon not only man's physically, as God said, man will toil, and work with the sweat from his brow, until he returns back into the DUST of the earth, and because of the curse, has it also affected his mind, and broken his authority, masculinity, and leadership. Speaking about the world, not believers. Any insight, why
men have or become as puppets in the hands of worldly women. It looks like men have become as an animal under the command of it's master, the women. What do you think?

The problem is not with the genders,but he problem is we don't care about God or what He desires from us.

Mark 10:6 KJV
"But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female."
There is no superiority,its and order like Christ is the Head of the Church and Christ Loves Church and Church Loves Christ.
 

homwardbound

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Anything that comes from the fruit of unrightousness, is bait. Ego, greed, wanting to eat more, know more, temptations, these are things that attack the five senses within us God created, oh why not, touch this, etc.
There is a catch 22 Sister on one side we become self-righteous and hide behind closed doors, arrogant, boastful proud and the such one has lost humility.

Then on the other side of this the freedom is taken for granted and used for an occassion for the flesh to get away with what flesh is: selfish and manipulates to have its selfish-ways, and women join right in for the same,
We are created equal, the woman as a help-meet and not for woman or man to take it for granted as is today.

The middle see all equal and maybe we will see just love all equally, Praying so
 
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jkalyna

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Yes Sister there is a lot of "Fly Paper" as bait set out in this world every day. For God is still not of this world, and friendship with the world is as an enemy toward God and most using being forgiven to sin, thinking like the Corinthians did.

So all I can say to all is stop, think, and respond to God in no, I personally do not want to harm anyone over the fact you loved me so much that you forgave me before I was ever born all sin or sins I could ever commit by you Jesus, Thank you, now please teach me how to respond, and not harm my neighbor and love them the same as you have and do love me? A forgiven person in your sight not mine or this world's sight.
See no not one better than the other, I do not care how righteous you might think you are or not, we are all equal
Fly Paper or an invitation to temptation,, laughed at that, knowing this that Jesus came to heal the sick, the broken hearted, I hate no one, and know this, just as I was once imperfect, broken hearted, wretched, and lost, Christ came to love the whole world, this includes ALL , Satan uses those who do not belong to the Lord and brings trouble, wickedness, and all sorts of evil imaginations against the brethren, for it is written, he is the accuser of the brethren slanders, and is the father of lies.
Being a captive a slave of sin, is a sickness, we could pray for others, but only Jesus sets them free of these chains, as we mere mortal humans cant. Accepting Jesus as savior, in repentance, unto salvation will set the captive free. ( There is none righteous, no not one, for all our righteousness is as filthy rags, this includes believers. This is why REv. says, keep your garments clean, spotless, without wrinkle awaiting for his return. :)
 
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jkalyna

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There is a catch 22 Sister on one side we become self-righteous and hide behind closed doors, arrogant, boastful proud and the such one has lost humility.

Then on the other side of this the freedom is taken for granted and used for an occassion for the flesh to get away with what flesh is: selfish and manipulates to have its selfish-ways, and women join right in for the same,
We are created equal, the woman as a help-meet and not for woman or man to take it for granted as is today.

The middle see all equal and maybe we will see just love all equally, Praying so
Some folk want to keep the same door. A man sat on a corner once with a tin cup, and an angle came and gave him 3 wishes. He just wanted another tin cup. Spiritual darkness dosn't let anyone see anything. Jesus the light of the world.
 
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jkalyna

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GEN 21:12

And God said unto Abraham, Let it not be grievous in thy sight because of the lad, and because of thy bondwoman; in all that Sarah hath said unto thee, hearken unto her voice; for in Isaac shall thy seed be called.
The problems are not with the Muslims, if God so hated Hag-gar, Sarah's servant he would never allowed her into Abraham's house. He even allowed birth to take place. There is not much difference between the Jewish nation/ and those who are called Muslims. They both wear hats men thought different, beards, women head coverings, no pork, and they both deny Jesus as Messiah. Just because a person adheres to being called a Jew/ Muslim God loved and loves both, and actually the whole world, The problem lies with in the spirit soul of the individual, is hatred there, then Love is not there, hatred produces death. It's an individual thing, and God looks on the heart.
 

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I've heard some say that Adam deliberately took the dive into death ...laying down his life so to speak..a picture of Christ for His Church.

I have heard this also, but I'd be hesitant to elevate Adam too high remembering that he sinned being NOT deceived unlike Eve.
 
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jkalyna

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#36
Meh just because Man is supposed to have a lil more responsibilities doesn't mean he shouldn't listen to women. From reading the Bible I'd say there are several good instances of men listening to women and women to men in many parts working together. Not even in a romantic way though of course that as well, but rather as a society. Book of Esther is good for both examples of this with Mordecai and Esther and even Xerxes in some cases all working together to save the jewish exiles from a nefarious plot.
I'm glad Lot didn't listen to his wife, when she said curse God and die." Truthfully, we really don't listen to what the word says at times. Be silent for this is a great price in the sight of the Lord, a meek and quiet spirit. Women are just as much tempted to sin, maybe even more.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Go said the man is to love the wife as Christ loved the church.

How did he love the church?

He served her

He washed her feet.

He gave her everything she needs

He sacrificed his whole life for her

He died for her.

God stated he gave Eve as a Help Meat for Adam.

A man who does not listen to his womans guidance is like a man who has been given tools to do a job, yet refuses to use certain tools just because he is offended by them. It would be foolish.


A lady can not be a "help meat" to her man if she is not aloud to speak into his life and be used by God to help guide him and HELP him on his journey
 
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jkalyna

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psalm6819

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You have brought up many valid points.

Even in Biblical times, females were the instruments though which evil reached man.

Sin never meant anything UNTIL it reached Adam....and it reached him through a female...

Brother Bowman, I respectfully disagree, Each one of us are responsible for our own choices. Adam could have said "No". Do not forget that Jesus had a human mother. (who was a woman)

 
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Kerry

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The problems are not with the Muslims, if God so hated Hag-gar, Sarah's servant he would never allowed her into Abraham's house. He even allowed birth to take place. There is not much difference between the Jewish nation/ and those who are called Muslims. They both wear hats men thought different, beards, women head coverings, no pork, and they both deny Jesus as Messiah. Just because a person adheres to being called a Jew/ Muslim God loved and loves both, and actually the whole world, The problem lies with in the spirit soul of the individual, is hatred there, then Love is not there, hatred produces death. It's an individual thing, and God looks on the heart.
Sorry but your wrong, The only thing that God see's is the cross and those who have faith in it. Jesus is God's sacrifice for man and the only one He will accept.