AM I JEW OR A GENTILE IF I KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS ?
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you have it the wrong way round it say if our hearts condemns we have no confidence, it does not say if we have no confidence our heart condemns us.
It quite clearly says that we become condemned 1 John 3:21 Dear friends, if our hearts do not condemn us, we have confidence before God.
I see this we will not agree on so to save it going into a argument that no one likes to hear i will agree to disagree with you on this one, but so far i do think me and you have had many disagreements but that is OK i have no problem with that.
we are from different countries and different beliefs and this will never change until the new earth has come. so what must we do we must not fall out over this no more
It quite clearly says that we become condemned 1 John 3:21 Dear friends, if our hearts do not condemn us, we have confidence before God.
I see this we will not agree on so to save it going into a argument that no one likes to hear i will agree to disagree with you on this one, but so far i do think me and you have had many disagreements but that is OK i have no problem with that.
we are from different countries and different beliefs and this will never change until the new earth has come. so what must we do we must not fall out over this no more
K
Thank you for defending me, it is comforting to have earthly friends, and is a gift from God.
There is no friend like Messiah who lay His life down for sinners to repent. He asks little in return, and that we submit to His will, for our good, and when we do ...that is freedom. the commandments of God is law of liberty. I don't have to wonder what He calls right living because He lived and walked this earth, faced temptations as is common to man, and He overcame the world. We know we will have trouble in this world, because this world hated Him, and this world will hate whomever follows Messiah and keeps the commandments of God.
There is no friend like Messiah who lay His life down for sinners to repent. He asks little in return, and that we submit to His will, for our good, and when we do ...that is freedom. the commandments of God is law of liberty. I don't have to wonder what He calls right living because He lived and walked this earth, faced temptations as is common to man, and He overcame the world. We know we will have trouble in this world, because this world hated Him, and this world will hate whomever follows Messiah and keeps the commandments of God.
P
I literally laughed when I read that. It is true, but used in the way you did is comical. You judaizers hate anyone that brings truth and/or correction at any level. The more I read of your senseless posts, the more clear my understanding becomes of the depth of your disobedience. Of course you hate Paul. Now I understand a bit more. The reason is that Paul also corrected ignorance and disobedience.
I have a feeling Peter momentarily raised his hackles when Paul got in his face too. But you know what? Peter got over it. Why? Because he knew he was wrong and Paul simply brought him the truth. But there were some that Paul couldn't get through to. Remember Alexander the coppersmith?
And before you start with the "now he is comparing himself to Paul!", all I have done is bring FACT and truth. All verifiable, all accepted by everyone. Whether it is simple rules of writing, or bible scripture, it has all been proven out.
I have a feeling Peter momentarily raised his hackles when Paul got in his face too. But you know what? Peter got over it. Why? Because he knew he was wrong and Paul simply brought him the truth. But there were some that Paul couldn't get through to. Remember Alexander the coppersmith?
And before you start with the "now he is comparing himself to Paul!", all I have done is bring FACT and truth. All verifiable, all accepted by everyone. Whether it is simple rules of writing, or bible scripture, it has all been proven out.
E
Will you please read this again.
Dear friends, IF OUR HEARTS DO NOT CONDEMN US,
Where is this do you read that we can be condemned? it is not saying we CAN be condemned, It is claiming, IF our HEARTS do not CONDEMN us.
Then he says, if this does not happen. what can we have??
we have confidence before God
Think about it. If our hearts are condemning us, How can we have confidence in God? it won't happen. We will not have faith or confidence in God if we are condemning ourselves.
What we need to do is study the word. And see what God says, and always be willing to listen and be taught. And NEVER assume we are always right.
Dear friends, IF OUR HEARTS DO NOT CONDEMN US,
Where is this do you read that we can be condemned? it is not saying we CAN be condemned, It is claiming, IF our HEARTS do not CONDEMN us.
Then he says, if this does not happen. what can we have??
we have confidence before God
Think about it. If our hearts are condemning us, How can we have confidence in God? it won't happen. We will not have faith or confidence in God if we are condemning ourselves.
What we need to do is study the word. And see what God says, and always be willing to listen and be taught. And NEVER assume we are always right.
I dont think anybody truly believes anymore i believe my way is correct and you believe your way is correct. so what we must do is talk about this like it is an business associates lunch or like a new client coming to your business and asking you questions , you dont tell that new client that he is a moron if he don't like your bushiness. what you say is how can i help you more that is what you say because if you call a moron he never comes back.
And this is the same for people we have be very careful how we discuss this so that others may learn.
And i should not be having to say this to you because you of an age where you should know this.
And this is the same for people we have be very careful how we discuss this so that others may learn.
And i should not be having to say this to you because you of an age where you should know this.
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literally laughed when I read that. It is true, but used in the way you did is comical. You judaizers hate anyone that brings truth and/or correction at any level. The more I read of your senseless posts, the more clear my understanding becomes of the depth of your disobedience. Of course you hate Paul. Now I understand a bit more. The reason is that Paul also corrected ignorance and disobedience.
- [h=4]John 13:34 KJV[/h] A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.
- [h=4]John 13:35 KJV[/h] By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another .
- [h=4]John 15:12 KJV[/h] This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.
- [h=4]John 15:17 KJV[/h] These things I command you, that ye love one another.
- [h=4]Romans 12:10 KJV[/h] Be kindly affectioned one to another with brotherly love; in honour preferring one another;
Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.
Have you read these verses, Phil 112?
have you read these? paul isn't cursing brothers.
Galatians 5
12 I would that they were even cut off which trouble you!
5 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.
2 Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.
3 For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law.
4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.
Galatians 5
12 I would that they were even cut off which trouble you!
5 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.
2 Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.
3 For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law.
4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.
your not seeing it ,, the laws where written on our hearts for a purpose they where not just put there for no reason they where put there for many reasons and this is how it is.
if you commit a sin and your a child of god your heart should convict you why else would he write his laws on our hearts,?
and you already know from our previous discussions that the lord was fed up with his lambs being crucified over and over again and we also know that the lord had become burdened and weary himself. which made God write his laws on our hearts
if you commit a sin and your a child of god your heart should convict you why else would he write his laws on our hearts,?
and you already know from our previous discussions that the lord was fed up with his lambs being crucified over and over again and we also know that the lord had become burdened and weary himself. which made God write his laws on our hearts
P
Do you suppose Christ was quoting them to the moneychangers when He toosed them out of the temple?
Let me tell you, and anyone that has an ear: There is a difference between unconditional love, and unconditional acceptence. Refusing to accept error is not a statement saying I don't love them. I told karraster I would sit at the same table as her. Silence is implied consent, and I will in no way become a party to the erroneous twisting of scripture seen on this forum. If that is a problem for you, you have several choices, the two most obvious ones being: Have the admins ban me, or put me on ignore.
It is ludicrous for me to take grief from people time and again for bringing scripture to the table. You never tell me that the KJV is wrong, that Paul is a liar, that the Spirit erred in not making some scripture say what you wanted....oh no, only that I have some kind of problem, maybe a little "attitude". Well you know what? I do have an attitude. An attitude of defending the word of God and rejecting heresy. That is what my bible teaches me. That is what God demands from people that want to serve Him.
Let me tell you, and anyone that has an ear: There is a difference between unconditional love, and unconditional acceptence. Refusing to accept error is not a statement saying I don't love them. I told karraster I would sit at the same table as her. Silence is implied consent, and I will in no way become a party to the erroneous twisting of scripture seen on this forum. If that is a problem for you, you have several choices, the two most obvious ones being: Have the admins ban me, or put me on ignore.
It is ludicrous for me to take grief from people time and again for bringing scripture to the table. You never tell me that the KJV is wrong, that Paul is a liar, that the Spirit erred in not making some scripture say what you wanted....oh no, only that I have some kind of problem, maybe a little "attitude". Well you know what? I do have an attitude. An attitude of defending the word of God and rejecting heresy. That is what my bible teaches me. That is what God demands from people that want to serve Him.