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Charlie57

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Angel life is tough but we must look at life a bit differently
 
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Animus

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Here is another video about DNA. I'm giving you these videos because I notice you don't trust my arguments that are based on logic alone.

[video=youtube;CmB4uLANCBo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmB4uLANCBo[/video]
 
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Charlie57

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angel are you still around I want to chat to you
 
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yeah its called taking the lords name in vain...non of them go guilt free though
=)
 
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relientkchick_4

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He is jealous for you...he loves you like a hurricane you are a tree..bending beneath the wait of his wind and mercy..
when
All of a sudden, i am unaware of these afflictions eclipsed by glory

Sing, sing, sing...sing praises with the heavens we will sing sing sing... =) lol
love this song!!! my fave line: loves like a hurricane.... such powerful force... cant be contained
 

Pie

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From reading some of the comments here, it seems as some you all feel the same as I do. I always believed in god because that is how I raised, but now that I am getting older, I no longer believe. I think religion was made up by man. There is no shread of evidence that god exists. I don't want to go throughout my life believing in something that is not true. I doubt that scientist would lie about evolution being real if it is not.

Welcome Angel! I went through the same exact thing you did. I left Christianity and became agnostic for about 2 years. I faced the same frustrations and anger. So many questions... so few answers. However, I knew the consequences of atheism. The full consequences... It means no purpose, no value, no meaning. Let that really sink in and ponder it. If atheism were true, then nothing matters.. We can live under the illusion that things matter but they don't. At the end of the day, you're nothing more than a machine for propagating DNA. So, obviously that's something to chew on.. But that's an emotional appeal. (Still it's not one many atheists seem to take to heart.)

Anyways, this isn't why I chose to return to Christianity. It's because at the end of my studying(took about a year), I found there to be a lot more evidence for God and the evidence for atheism to be severely lacking. There's plenty of evidence God does exist. Bill Nye vs Ken Ham.. You watched one debate and jumped to that conclusion? (That was a horrible debate btw). Let me give you tons more to watch. If you want, pm me and I'll send you links to the debates as well as titles of books written... as well as some of the arguments for God's existence... The Kalam Cosmological Argument, the Moral Argument, the Teleological Argument, the Ontological Argument. Do your research before jumping to conclusions. God made us rational beings. And I can promise you, He may be hidden but He gave enough evidence that those who seek will find Him.
 
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DELL23

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Couldn't God have made the Big Ban?
 
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If Evolution is not true then why do scientist say they've proved it to be true.
Scientist will tell you they CAN'T prove to you that God doesn't exist, but say that that evolution does, unless proving God doesn't exist, you can't say that evolution does exist, that's an absolute fact. This should help you to stand firm with God.
 
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quepasajoe

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As mentioned by Animus, You need to do some Serious Research On Your Own. Am not a movie goer, But was invited to see the movie, " God is Not Dead". If you go to see it, Listen very closely and pay attention to the information given by the Student, Believe you will find the debate between Student and Teacher very interesting, and some of your questions answered. ------------- Romans 1:20, For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities - his eternal power and divine nature - have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse. ---------- Psalms 14: 1, The fool says in his heart, " There is no God ".
 
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Richie_2uk

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If Evolution is not true then why do scientist say they've proved it to be true.
Hi angelnicole. Scientist will say one thing one moment, down the line, a few years later, tehy will say Oh sorry, it was wrong, and then they give a new theory. They come out with all they discoveries, and SO called Proof's. But what they are doing, is scamming the governments, and even in some cases the public for Money so they can look into the so called discovery.

There are some scientist out there who are amazing, and discovered fantastic things. But evolution, is there downfall. because the scientist you been listening to, are false. They been trying to deny God for years and years. I believe the enemy is behind a lot of these Scientist. and the problem is, that you are listening to much of the wrong thing and people.

Scientist are great liars, Just like the enemy, Enemy being Satan. and He has a great hold of a lot of the lies scientist portrait. You are obviously looking into the wrong places for the truth. as this may shock you, there are actual famous scientist, are actually coming forward to tell the truth that they Don't know, and they were lying and misguiding the public.

Many scientist has become Christian, Because they cannot fight no longer to disprove God.
 
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I don´t know if you are really concerned for YOUR faith or what MANY people think (and want you to belive as truth).
First: I don´t care what those theories have said. It´s easier to believe in GOD rather in men.
Two: Will you believe I have seen two stars moving in the darkness of a starry night? I was used to read about those Maggi who came to visit Jesus, after He was born in Belen... I had some doubts, because I never knew "stars" can move as fast as an OVNI... There was a night when Monica and I saw two of them, flying that sky where we saw -at once- thinking it was a colective illusion we both had: It wasn´t an illusion.
We were praying and asking GOD to give us a sign (that "OVNI" were a sign we saw with awe). We wanted to know what to do, we prayed, and that sign appeared in the sky... (I think I wrote on the subject, somewhere else). Does this prove anything? Yes! we were asking for a SIGN and be both saw it and get it (I´m talking about Monica and I). It proves those maggi on the Bible saw a "star" pointing out wher to go to meet the Lord Jesus (just allow me to call it a star, but it was not a star, but an UFO).
Three: There are many things we cannot grasp or believe unless we see it or prove it, but I´m not the only crazy nut who have seen those signs in the sky. That "theory" could be lived out by those who had their chance to see it and, the evolution, serves to "prove" men are "smarter" than GOD... Do you believe it? I don´t.

you are RIGHT when saying "religion is an invention", but the moment you see, by real experience, what´s real and what isn´t, you´ll be saved from theories to walk your own life, no matter what other say (although crazy people think they´re not crazy). Just think of Moses staring at a burning bush. Was it possible or not? Just look at Jesus ascention... Was He taken or He had some wings "to fly"?

I was in the place you are now. It took me years to recover, but I believe my life and my experience. No matter what others want me to believe: Your faith and experience is your possesion.
 
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Angela if this means anything, a Holy Spirit is the one who told humans there is a God. The Spirit is VERY real. Would you believe someone who actually spoke with a real Holy Spirit, regarding the fact there is a God? I hope you got some helpful people to SPEAK with.
 
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From reading some of the comments here, it seems as some you all feel the same as I do. I always believed in god because that is how I raised, but now that I am getting older, I no longer believe. I think religion was made up by man. There is no shread of evidence that god exists. I don't want to go throughout my life believing in something that is not true. I doubt that scientist would lie about evolution being real if it is not.
As I said... There was a time I torn several Bibles, i wnated to force GOD to talk to me, etc. But I lived several experiences that convinced me HE IS REAL, more than I am "real"... Hope He takes HIs time to give you the ATTENTION you need.

The only thing I know is that He is slow to some answers, that He needs Us to SEEK Him with the whole heart and, of course, if you are not seeking Him, He can ignore you (too), because that is what we often do with other people around.

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You are not ignored! I have felt that, too. Cheer up! He will give you a proof, someday.
 
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biscuit

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I am now starting to have doubt's about god's existence because of all the negative things I hear, read and see on television, and over the internet. People are saying that the big bang theory and evolution has been proven to be true, that there is an overwhelming amount of evidence for it. On top of that, Bill Bye won the evolutionary vs creation debate against ken ham. I know scientist are really smart so I don't think they'd be making all of these things up. Even some Christians believe evolution to be true.

I have also been hearing and reading that religion was invented by slave masters during slavery days and that religion was forced upon slaves by their slave masters, and that the bible was copied from other Greek mythology books. I read that all these things are true and it really hurts me a lot to hear others say these things. I feel very depressed that I have not been able to eat or get much sleep at all. It hurts that I have gone my entire life believing there is god to hear others provide proof saying it's not true.

I really need someone to talk to. I really appreciate you taking the time out to read this.

1 John 2:15-16

New International Version (NIV)



[SUP]15 [/SUP]Do not love the world or anything in the world. If anyone loves the world, love for the Father is not in them. [SUP]16 [/SUP]For everything in the world—the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life—comes not from the Father but from the world.
 
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pastac

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I'm filled with hope and sad at the same time that you have this struggle. We all have at some point struggled with what we believe. No as you cas see in the many long post some are still struggling with what they believ and that's ok. The dangerous part is you have to sift through all the junk yourself to find the gold.This is not a real complicated walk we often make it so with our leaning to our own understanding. Somethings we may never know and I'm ok with that too. Do't spen so much time on vain and foolish questions that will often gender strife and lots of confusion but better try to focus on living the best life in Christ that you can with what you know right now. No it willnot be easy because you are all over the map in your thoughts,just take a breath slow down enjoy reading some bible and ask questions no harm in that, but as I stated be careful of some of the answers you believe. I'll be praying for you.