When indoctrination talks, it says such things as: Father, Son and Holy Spirit are three persons.
Sometimes indoctrination is the worst wall to get through. Folks will defend it to the last.
If we say we believe in a trinity, then we are also saying that there is more than one spirit in the Godhead...
1) One spirit for Father
2) Another spirit for Holy Spirit
And, which implies that God did not see them other two persons, when he looked around and then said...
Isaiah 45:6 That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is none else.
Isaiah 45:21 Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me.
John 14:8-9 Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us. Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?
John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
John 8:27 They understood not that he spake to them of the Father.
In the Old Testament we know about the Tabernacle made of badger skins. It was not much to look at, but was inside that made all the difference. In housed the Eternal spirit, Yhwh. Now turning to the New Testament we read about a more perfect tabernacle...
Hebrews 9:11 But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building;
So then, is Jesus actually the Father manifested in the flesh?
1 Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
Jesus said to the Jews that if you don't believe that I am "he", you will die in your sin. A few verses down we see that "he" is the father. Jesus is the father incarnate. He said to Philip that when you seen me you seen the father. Also in Isaiah 6:9 the son is the everlasting father.
Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
The above scripture (isaiah 9:6) says that the child born is both the father and the son (Prince of Peace).
The question is then asked, how can the son be the father incarnate? The spirit in the Old Testament, the spirit that spoke to Moses (the only spirit of God, because if we say you have two (2) spirits, one for father and one for Holy Spirit, then we have a serious problem). The spirit of God overshadowed Mary, she concieved a seed, and God, able to be everywhere simultaneously (omnipresent), both inhabits that seed and remains in heaven. She gives birth and we have spirit become flesh.
In discovering the Omnipresence of God, we read:
Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost. Then Joseph her husband, being a just man, and not willing to make her a publick example, was minded to put her away privily. But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost. And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins. Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us. (Matthew 1:18-23)
Now, Jesus, being God in the flesh, is both man and God. As a man he hungered and thirsted and prayed. As a man he fasted for 40 days. As a man he shed that redeeming blood for us. Now, as God he did miracles and forgave sin. When Jesus prayed, this was his humanity praying to his deity (don't we also claim to have the Holy Spirit and don't we pray to God, whom by-the-way is in us. We read in 1Corinthians 3:16 "Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?") After his time on earth, paying the sin debt and reconciling the world unto himself, by way of the cross, he must leave so that he may return as the Comforter (the Holy Ghost) which will guide us into all truth. But through all of this, he remained that one God that can be in all places simultaneously and take on any form that he chooses, even the form of a burning bush while talking to Moses.
The omnipresence of God has him both coming out of the water at the baptism of John, and simultaneously descending like a dove (which was a sign unto John), while speaking from heaven in Matthew 3:17, which was a perfect example of how our one true God can multitask. God does not jump out of one person in Mexico to go and jump into another saved person in France, He is in all saved people at the same time, and was in all three places at that baptism while still being the one omnipresent Spirit who is in heaven.
In John 3:13 we have Jesus essentially saying to Nicodemus, I am both in heaven and simultaneously standing right here talking with you...
And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven. (John 3:13)
God bless!
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