God: how many?

[homwardbound]

You said there are three persons that are God, and that Jesus' baptism proves that. No where in the Bible does it say that three persons are God. You misinterpret scripture. God is omnipresent. Jesus said in John 3.13 The Son of man, which is in heaven. At Jesus baptism you have one person God in the water, at the same time since he was omnipresent he was coming through the air, then he spoke from heaven. The Son of man, which is in heaven. It's not three. It is one.

Are you by belief one with Father through Son. Do you praise Jesus for what Jesus has done, and Jesus says no praise my Father and Father says back no praise you Son for doing what you did, and the Holy Spirit is the invitee for us to join in Spirit and praise one another, emptying self of being the center and treating all as in the center

Ever notice through out the word, Father has not been a tyrant, yet can appear as if is in the First and is not
Did Jesus ever praise himself, or only the Father and the comforter he was to send and said the Holy Spirit will not speak of himself, but what the ?Father says
If one is praising the other and the other not praising self, each busy praising each other in total submission over this, and we start doing the same thing, evil would be kicked out, no one is trying to be the center anymore.
Not easily understood, but it is what it is.

What makes them one is not taking any credit for the self ever, and when one joins in this fellowship then you become one with Father, Son and Holy Spirit
This is just what I see and thanks everyone else thoughts on this matter

 

[homwardbound]

The complexity of three as one, and we see things in threes as on, like an egg. It has three parts to make one egg, and the egg is not whole without all three parts, Shell, white and Yoke. Take one out and the egg is not whole

The body ones flesh is not whole without The Spirit in the lead as one. and man was alive to the Soul, for God breathed into Adam and man became a living Soul. Not yet alive to the flesh or the Spirit of God, a living Soul only before the fall
In the garden there were two trees one of the flesh and the other life in the Spirit of God
Now Adam and Eve became alive to flesh and yet still dead in Spirit when they ate from that tree of Death, still in need of life in the Spirit of God and that was not revealed until Christ came the tree of life and condemned all sin to the flesh to bring us to true life in the Spirit of God the Father of Christ and they are as one in agreement in all things

Matthew 26:41 Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak.

Man needs life in the Spirit and can't serve God any other way, For God is a Spirit and must be worshiped in Spirit and truth. So if I reckon me not dead to flesh desire, selfishness by Christ's death to flesh at the cross, then how can one be alive to Father in Spirit and truth?
Phil 3

 

[Karlko]

The Bible teaches that there are three separate persons in the Godhead: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost.


God said, Let us make man in our image: Gen. 1:26.


man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: Gen. 3:22.


This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased: Matt. 3:17 (17:5)


not mine to give, but … of my Father: Matt. 20:23.


not as I will, but as thou wilt: Matt. 26:39.


baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Matt. 28:19 (3 Ne. 11:25).


called the Son of the Highest: Luke 1:32.


Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove: Luke 3:22.


Son can do nothing … but what he seeth the Father do: John 5:19.


Father that sent me beareth witness of me: John 8:18.


I and my Father are one: John 10:30.


believe the works … that the Father is in me: John 10:38.


a voice from heaven, saying, I have … glorified it: John 12:28.


my Father is greater than I: John 14:28.


that they might know thee the only true God: John 17:3.


That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me: John 17:21.


I ascend unto my Father, and your Father: John 20:17.


being by the right hand of God exalted: Acts 2:33.


saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God: Acts 7:55.


not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold: Acts 17:29.


even his eternal power and Godhead: Rom. 1:20.


to us there is but one God: 1 Cor. 8:6.


Christ, who is the image of God: 2 Cor. 4:4.


I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord: Eph. 3:14.


image of the invisible God, the firstborn: Col. 1:15.


dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily: Col. 2:9.


Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son: Heb. 1:2.


three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: 1 Jn. 5:7.


The Father and the Son have tangible bodies of flesh and bone and that the Holy Ghost is a personage of spirit without flesh and bone.


When people speak of God, it is generally the Father who is referred to; that is, Elohim. All mankind are His children. The personage known as Jehovah in Old Testament times, and who is usually identified in the Old Testament as Lord (in small capitals), is the Son, known as Jesus Christ, and who is also a God. Jesus works under the direction of the Father and is in complete harmony with Him. All mankind are His brethren and sisters, He being the eldest of the spirit children of Elohim. Many of the things that the scripture says were done by God were actually done by the Lord (Jesus). Thus the scripture says that “God created the heaven and the earth” (Gen. 1:1), but we know that it was actually the Lord (Jesus) who was the creator (John 1:3, 10), or as Paul said, God created all things by Christ Jesus (Eph. 3:9). The Holy Ghost is also a God and is variously called the Holy Spirit, the Spirit, the Spirit of God, etc.


Although God created all things and is the ruler of the universe, being omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent (through His Spirit), mankind has a special relationship to Him that differentiates man from all other created things: man is literally God’s offspring, made in His image, whereas all other things are but the work of His hands (Acts 17:28–29).

 

[JimmieD]

I don't know what church rejected the truth of the word of God in the 3rd century. But I know in 1Corinthians 8.6 the apostle Paul said of himself, and the church he was in, But to us there is but one God, the Father.

Why did you only quote part of the verse?

8:6 yet for us there is one God, the Father, from whom are all things and for whom we live, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things and through whom we live.

 

[Selihah]

Matthew 10:40, Jesus is made to say to his apostles, "He that receiveth you receiveth me, and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me." By this expression Christians are reduced to the necessity of believing that Jesus and his apostles are identical; and as they are taught that three make one, they ought, by parity of reasoning, to deduce the inference from the present passage, that the trinity, with the twelve apostles, make altogether one unity.

blessed quindecim

 

[Bowman]

Now this God was the Father because he created everything.

There is scripture stating that The Father created....that The Son created....that The Spirit created.

The Triune God created...

Then after Jesus ascended to heaven, he came back down in the Spirit, and was called the Holy Ghost.

No...that would be a jacked assertion.

Jesus is NOT The Holy Spirit.

 

[tourist]

God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit. One God, 3 separate holy entities.

 

[Bowman]

Matthew 10:40, Jesus is made to say to his apostles, "He that receiveth you receiveth me, and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me." By this expression Christians are reduced to the necessity of believing that Jesus and his apostles are identical; and as they are taught that three make one, they ought, by parity of reasoning, to deduce the inference from the present passage, that the trinity, with the twelve apostles, make altogether one unity.

blessed quindecim

That makes absolutely NO sense whatsoever...

 

[Bowman]

You said there are three persons that are God, and that Jesus' baptism proves that. No where in the Bible does it say that three persons are God. You misinterpret scripture. God is omnipresent. Jesus said in John 3.13 The Son of man, which is in heaven. At Jesus baptism you have one person God in the water, at the same time since he was omnipresent he was coming through the air, then he spoke from heaven. The Son of man, which is in heaven. It's not three. It is one.

Mat 28.19

πορευθεντες ουν μαθητευσατε παντα τα εθνη βαπτιζοντες αυτους εις το ονομα του πατρος και του υιου και του αγιου πνευματος



Then having gone, disciple all nations, baptizing them into the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,





This passage contains arthrous substantives connected via kai which indicates distinction and separate referents.



However, while distinction is made between the referents, each has the same singular name.



Three Persons in one Being.



This same singular name of three persons’ baptism is the same as the Aaronic blessing in which the singular name of Yahweh is repeated three times (Num 6.22 – 27).



Separate and yet the same, The Trinity.

 

[Bowman]

The omnipresence of God has him both coming out of the water at the baptism of John, and simultaneously descending like a dove (which was a sign unto John), while speaking from heaven in Matthew 3:17, which was a perfect example of how our one true God can multitask. God does not jump out of one person in Mexico to go and jump into another saved person in France, He is in all saved people at the same time, and was in all three places at that baptism while still being the one omnipresent Spirit who is in heaven.

-Endtimes

God can 'multitask'...?

Is He a ventriloquist also...?

Greek grammar mandates that three separate persons were present at Jesus' baptism...and ALL three were One Being, God.

The Trinity.

 

[Allin]

God can 'multitask'...?

Is He a ventriloquist also...?

Greek grammar mandates that three separate persons were present at Jesus' baptism...and ALL three were One Being, God.

The Trinity.

Good answer. We shouldn't be hung up on words or terms that the Catholic church made up. The Bible makes it clear that at the baptist, there were three Persons and that each Person:

1. was in a different location from the Others.

2. had a different name or designation from the Others.

3. was doing something different from the Others.

4. had a different form from the Others.

That's just four striking things; I'm sure there are more. If at least the first three things don't fit all the basic requirements for one entity being distinct from another, I'm pretty sure nothing else does. I don't think the question is supposed to be 'an answer' that God is One Person and no more but is supposed to be an honest question more like this: "If God is one Person, then how does that fit with Jesus and the title Holy Spirit?"

 

[Bowman]

Good answer. We shouldn't be hung up on words or terms that the Catholic church made up. The Bible makes it clear that at the baptist, there were three Persons and that each Person:

1. was in a different location from the Others.

2. had a different name or designation from the Others.

3. was doing something different from the Others.

4. had a different form from the Others.

That's just four striking things; I'm sure there are more. If at least the first three things don't fit all the basic requirements for one entity being distinct from another, I'm pretty sure nothing else does. I don't think the question is supposed to be 'an answer' that God is One Person and no more but is supposed to be an honest question more like this: "If God is one Person, then how does that fit with Jesus and the title Holy Spirit?"

Jesus' baptism informs the reader that each Person has the same One Name...

 

[homwardbound]

One egg has three parts that makes up the egg as God is one in three, makes God one with all three parts

 

[Bowman]

One egg has three parts that makes up the egg as God is one in three, makes God one with all three parts

I would not use that analogy to represent The Trinity....as the three parts to an egg are not the egg itself, but only a part of the egg.

Whereas each Person in The Trinity IS the One God, not merely a part of the One God.

See the difference, brother...?

 

[Karlko]

God the Father, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost are one in purpose and unified in intent just like a husband and wife could be in an ideal marriage but they are three distinct beings.

 

[dcontroversal]

One God manifested three ways......

I am one person and yet I have....

1. A mind
2. A body
3. A spirit that makes me alive

Not hard to comprehend.........really!

 

[secularhermit]

Mat 28.19

πορευθεντες ουν μαθητευσατε παντα τα εθνη βαπτιζοντες αυτους εις το ονομα του πατρος και του υιου και του αγιου πνευματος



Then having gone, disciple all nations, baptizing them into the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,





This passage contains arthrous substantives connected via kai which indicates distinction and separate referents.



However, while distinction is made between the referents, each has the same singular name.



Three Persons in one Being.



This same singular name of three persons’ baptism is the same as the Aaronic blessing in which the singular name of Yahweh is repeated three times (Num 6.22 – 27).



Separate and yet the same, The Trinity.

How many TIMES Jesus taught some IMPORTAN teachings?

He often used shock teraphy, to hepl us see "like that time He spoke about the BEAM some of US had in the eyes"... I don´t mind being blind (and blinded) for the TRUTH comes from ONE and ONLY GOD. I don´t believing Jesus is at the RIGHT of His Father, I don´t mind He is divine also, but God is a perfect spiritual being Israelite saw in the desert and those jews also saw HIs only begotten Son manifested on earth... (I hope any of them remove the plank of my eyes)

 

[Allin]

I'm happy to see that not everyone yields to unscriptural doctrines and that most on here stand on the truth that there are Three Persons in one God. In Jesus' prayer in Jn. 17, He again makes it plain that there are different Persons in God. Moreover, in the OT, and after, there are two Hebrew words used for the word 'one': 'iysh' and 'echad'. Every time they said that God is one, as in the blessing ("Hear, oh Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is 'One'"), they used the word 'echad' and not 'iysh'. What's the difference between those words?

Iysh always means 'one' as in singular. 'Echad', on the other hand, means either 'one' as in singular or 'a unity' or a plural union. Echad is the word used when saying that a man and his wife become one. Because God is a plurality or unity, only the word echad is used for Him and not the word iysh. I can also draw from my own experiences, though not adding to Scripture, and how each Member of the Godhead has a different personality and tends to major in different aspects of a person's life. E.g. the Father is the One who tends to speak to me about identity and destiny; Jesus is the One who tends to reveal God and direct me and teach me about certain things; and the Holy Spirit is the One who tends to unfold the Scriptures and overall understanding to me and to me deeper insight into God's ways. I didn't do that justice, but I'm often aware of which One is dealing me in the moment. Not always but often. E.g. in summer '12, it was Jesus who told me to leave a church and follow Him to genuine Christianity; while praying about it later, it was the Holy Spirit who me avision toexplain what was going on in the spirit regarding me. And in the brother church to the above church the same year, it was the Father who made His presence known in the leadership meeting, but it was only the Holy Spirit who 'remained behind' during the worship service. But aside from my experiences, the Father, Son, and Spirit are without an ounce of doubt different Persons with Their own individual personalities but unified perfectly into 'Echad': One(ness).

 

[Woodartdon]

Just a question here: If in the beginning there was only Yhvh (Almighty God) and all that is Yhvh expanded into, can anything exist apart from being a form of Him? I see no list of materials to work with, I read that there was only God, so everything that is, is God. God formed part of Himself into everything needed to serve mankind in the hopes a few friends for an eternity of fellowship and that is the simplicity of the Bible.

 

[Bowman]

Just a question here: If in the beginning there was only Yhvh (Almighty God) and all that is Yhvh expanded into, can anything exist apart from being a form of Him? I see no list of materials to work with, I read that there was only God, so everything that is, is God. God formed part of Himself into everything needed to serve mankind in the hopes a few friends for an eternity of fellowship and that is the simplicity of the Bible.

That would be pantheism...NOT Christianity...