Why do only Some get healed???

[jjtj22]

Jesus healed someone He never prayed for... the woman who touched His hem from behind. All that came to Him were healed. But He didn't really walk around town playing tag on people who weren't seeking Him. That's the thing, the power is all His, the only thing we bring to the table is our participation. Seek, you find, ignore, you miss out. That's the basis of all faith and reward. There's power in His hem. But you gotta touch it.

Thank you jjtj22. Always nice when someone "gets you' lol. The thing about God's sovereign will is that He choses not to enforce it, (kind of). God yielded His sovereignty to give man authority. His deal with Adam over the new creation was I'll Walk with you, Talk with you, Lend you an ear and Give you advise, but what you say Adam, that what goes. You Adam are the authority. So Adam gives that away to satan. God could have in His sovereign power taken it all back, but then that would put Him back in authority and that wasn't His intent, His will. His intent/will was for man to have authority. So to restore what He intended/willed meant a man had to take things back from satan. But who could do such a thing? Well, God, coming to us as a man. So the Messiah comes and indeed takes back authority. Hallelujah, not only does God still keep His sovereignty, but He now splits a 50/50 stake with man in the authority part of it. That's where our partnership comes in. It's His sovereign will that we participate with Him in the enforcement of His authority over creation. And we do that thru partnering in the gifts and manifestations of the Holy Spirit. God yields his will to give us the authority to participate in bringing His will to bear in this world, which was His original intent/will. If that makes any long-winded sense

Again, beautifully stated! I cannot find fault with your assessment of God's will which was the crux of my argument to you. Thank you, good sir!

I know a lot of people get frustrated with the back and forth of the debates on the bible discussion but I am learning a lot since I have joined CC. Definitely makes me think about things in different ways and why​ I believe what I believe.

 

[skipp]

Why do only some get healed? Maybe that's not for us to know. After all, God did not tell Job why he allowed so many misfortunes to befall him. We certainly shouldn't be like Job's friends in our attitude towards those who are ill and hurting.

 

[WordGaurdian]

Considering your age I will give you an answer, because at your age you are truly seeking and haven't accepted things that make you blind. Just understand though that the answer is not easy. In fact it might be a bit more scary than most people would like to believe and for that reason people created an illusion which they called they faith and religion. They won't openly admit it, because the whole purpose behind the illusion is that no one would no that they haven't reach the answer to that very question.

The truth is simple. Obedience. People don't want to believe it, because we want to be in control. We want to have power. We want to say - we made that guy walk, we made that person to see, we made that person in hear. The truth however is that we as people never make another walk, make a person to see, make those to hear or see. We simply carry the message of power over. However for this to happen, a couple of things must be in place. First off. If you want a miracle or miracles in your daily life. This is how to do it. You must risk and give away what people think of you. It must not bother you at all. Whether you are wearing a tuxedo or a pair of jeans must be exactly the same as long as you do what was asked by God. Which brings me to the second part. You must follow the voice of God (notice I said voice and not Bible). Do not get me wrong, the Bible has its purpose, but what you need to hear and follow is the voice of God. For only by actively doing what He tells you to do as you do it, will you have faith. And only by having faith can you please God. So First you must NOT be a people's pleaser. Second you must follow and hear and do the voice of God. And hear comes the hard one. You must DO the ten commandments.

To simple? God is not trying to make it complicated. But He expects absolute obedience. The more you do that and the More you understand HIS love, the more miracles you will see. The moment you start to obey and do His will a lot of people will turn against you (people you have believed to be thee most best Christians). Refer to rule number one, then two and then three and live according to that.

If you do what God says then God will be happy with you. Do not pray for anyone or heal anyone UNLESS you have cleared it with God. Meaning that He actually gave the OK. OR If He gave you a command or order to do so. Because without HIS authority you are nothing more than a man screaming out words. So your first responsibility is to learn how to hear God's voice word by word. As clear as I'm talking to you now. Not guessing. Not maybe's. And the only way you will get close to that is if you refer to the 3rd rule and DO it. the ten commandments intersects with everything in life. If you can live it. Then God will see you love Him and He shall bless you.

I hope you make it.

 

[Elizabeth619]

Why are some not healed? Maybe it is their test. How can one have a testimony without being tested?

 

[thecreationtutor]

most of the time it's because they will spend it on their evil desires

 

[SpiritofElijah]

Listen im not asking anyone to operate in doubt and unbelief but in Faith and do what Jesus said we could do if we believe in Him He said We will Heal the Sick raise the Dead Clense the Leper drink any deadly thing and it will not harm us(Mark 16:15-18) and as Believers in Messiah we do not have to submit to sickness and Disease it may try to come up against us but that is part of Spiritual warfare im saying why don't you go out on the streets and see all these things happen for your selves and do what Jesus said you could do as a believer so many people trying to reason out debate and operating in doubt which is not of God and under a spirit of religion rather then Just having Faith and Going out there and seeing the Blind healed and Lame walk God can use you but you have to yeild and let Him He Loves you so much God Bless

 

[SpiritofElijah]

Considering your age I will give you an answer, because at your age you are truly seeking and haven't accepted things that make you blind. Just understand though that the answer is not easy. In fact it might be a bit more scary than most people would like to believe and for that reason people created an illusion which they called they faith and religion. They won't openly admit it, because the whole purpose behind the illusion is that no one would no that they haven't reach the answer to that very question.

The truth is simple. Obedience. People don't want to believe it, because we want to be in control. We want to have power. We want to say - we made that guy walk, we made that person to see, we made that person in hear. The truth however is that we as people never make another walk, make a person to see, make those to hear or see. We simply carry the message of power over. However for this to happen, a couple of things must be in place. First off. If you want a miracle or miracles in your daily life. This is how to do it. You must risk and give away what people think of you. It must not bother you at all. Whether you are wearing a tuxedo or a pair of jeans must be exactly the same as long as you do what was asked by God. Which brings me to the second part. You must follow the voice of God (notice I said voice and not Bible). Do not get me wrong, the Bible has its purpose, but what you need to hear and follow is the voice of God. For only by actively doing what He tells you to do as you do it, will you have faith. And only by having faith can you please God. So First you must NOT be a people's pleaser. Second you must follow and hear and do the voice of God. And hear comes the hard one. You must DO the ten commandments.

To simple? God is not trying to make it complicated. But He expects absolute obedience. The more you do that and the More you understand HIS love, the more miracles you will see. The moment you start to obey and do His will a lot of people will turn against you (people you have believed to be thee most best Christians). Refer to rule number one, then two and then three and live according to that.

If you do what God says then God will be happy with you. Do not pray for anyone or heal anyone UNLESS you have cleared it with God. Meaning that He actually gave the OK. OR If He gave you a command or order to do so. Because without HIS authority you are nothing more than a man screaming out words. So your first responsibility is to learn how to hear God's voice word by word. As clear as I'm talking to you now. Not guessing. Not maybe's. And the only way you will get close to that is if you refer to the 3rd rule and DO it. the ten commandments intersects with everything in life. If you can live it. Then God will see you love Him and He shall bless you.

I hope you make it.

Dont let age come in Because i have surrendered and follow Jesus my Life is nothing for His and i know to walk in what He has called me to do then it must take obedience surrender and Following His every command and word that He speaks to me i must deny Myself because it is not about self it is about Jesus but I wish other followers of Jesus knew how to just walk with Faith and Follow Him and allow Him to do what He said He would do through them we have come so much as limiting God putting Him in a Box and throwing a way the key thus limiting God in out Lives God is so far more then our natural Mind can Concieve God spoke to me and said to me a while back He said Even eternity Flows from me that should give you a picture of how deep you can go'' and If He said that to me every believer has this chance to go as deep as they want into God but when you start going deeper the natural things and the theological beliefs one has will get tested because God is so Good and i encourage everyone Go deeper surrender do what He says obedience is the Key just Follow and walk in the Love of Jesus

 

[SpiritofElijah]

Listen im not asking anyone to operate in doubt and unbelief but in Faith and do what Jesus said we could do if we believe in Him He said We will Heal the Sick raise the Dead Clense the Leper drink any deadly thing and it will not harm us(Mark 16:15-18) and as Believers in Messiah we do not have to submit to sickness and Disease it may try to come up against us but that is part of Spiritual warfare im saying why don't you go out on the streets and see all these things happen for your selves and do what Jesus said you could do as a believer so many people trying to reason out debate and operating in doubt which is not of God and under a spirit of religion rather then Just having Faith and Going out there and seeing the Blind healed and Lame walk God can use you but you have to yeild and let Him He Loves you so much God Bless

o and with the drink any deadly thing im not saying go out by some poison and go try it it says not to tempt thy God in the word so yeah but if someone where to try to poison you or you where to drink something that may have been toxic not to worry cause the word of God says it will not harm you go about your day walk in faith do what the Holy Ghost tells you

 

[notuptome]

o and with the drink any deadly thing im not saying go out by some poison and go try it it says not to tempt thy God in the word so yeah but if someone where to try to poison you or you where to drink something that may have been toxic not to worry cause the word of God says it will not harm you go about your day walk in faith do what the Holy Ghost tells you

So your mighty faith does have limits. You are a doubter. One day you will learn that it is God's will and divine purpose that some suffer sickness and disease for His glory.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[SpiritofElijah]

So your mighty faith does have limits. You are a doubter. One day you will learn that it is God's will and divine purpose that some suffer sickness and disease for His glory.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

if God wills that some be sick your saying that sickness is in heaven because the Model Jesus gave us to Give is your will be done on earth as it is in heaven so therefore there is no sickness sickness is a result of the fall yes i may have doubts and thoughts come up but the word says take those thoughts captive and cast them down and i declare that i have the mind of Christ i walk in what He wants me to walk in and do what He tells me to do do we make mistakes yes but that is why there is repentance and God is helping me daily surrender unto Him

 

[notuptome]

if God wills that some be sick your saying that sickness is in heaven because the Model Jesus gave us to Give is your will be done on earth as it is in heaven so therefore there is no sickness sickness is a result of the fall yes i may have doubts and thoughts come up but the word says take those thoughts captive and cast them down and i declare that i have the mind of Christ i walk in what He wants me to walk in and do what He tells me to do do we make mistakes yes but that is why there is repentance and God is helping me daily surrender unto Him

There is sickness in this world. Christians get sick and die everyday. Many Godly Christians suffer great physical agony for many years. This is not because they lack faith. No it is because in their suffering they demonstrate how good God is to His child in the midst of suffering.

This body of flesh will be subject to suffering until the day it is transformed by God into a body like unto that of the Lord Jesus Christ. There have always been impudent souls going about boasting things of which they have no knowledge. You will never know how good God is until you have been put through the refining fires of adversity.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[SpiritofElijah]

There is sickness in this world. Christians get sick and die everyday. Many Godly Christians suffer great physical agony for many years. This is not because they lack faith. No it is because in their suffering they demonstrate how good God is to His child in the midst of suffering.

This body of flesh will be subject to suffering until the day it is transformed by God into a body like unto that of the Lord Jesus Christ. There have always been impudent souls going about boasting things of which they have no knowledge. You will never know how good God is until you have been put through the refining fires of adversity.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

No it is because we submit instead of declaring war on the devils war we give up and give in and wave the white flag when God said that by His stripes we are healed because We have Faith there is hope if you lose faith you lose hope and God has told us without faith it is impossible to please God we are to fight and declare war on the devils war and take authoirty sickness may try to come uppn you but sont surrender and submit rather start battling in the Spirit realm amd taking authority over the sickness and disease trying to be fall you and walk in health

 

[notuptome]

No it is because we submit instead of declaring war on the devils war we give up and give in and wave the white flag when God said that by His stripes we are healed because We have Faith there is hope if you lose faith you lose hope and God has told us without faith it is impossible to please God we are to fight and declare war on the devils war and take authoirty sickness may try to come uppn you but sont surrender and submit rather start battling in the Spirit realm amd taking authority over the sickness and disease trying to be fall you and walk in health

You will one day get sick. You will die one day. One day you will see the error in what you are saying today. My concern happens to be that you will lose your beliefs when that day comes.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[RickyZ]

You will one day get sick. You will die one day. One day you will see the error in what you are saying today. My concern happens to be that you will say 'look at all I missed out on' when that day comes.

 

[saved1975]

Listen im not asking anyone to operate in doubt and unbelief but in Faith and do what Jesus said we could do if we believe in Him He said We will Heal the Sick raise the Dead Clense the Leper drink any deadly thing and it will not harm us(Mark 16:15-18) and as Believers in Messiah we do not have to submit to sickness and Disease it may try to come up against us but that is part of Spiritual warfare im saying why don't you go out on the streets and see all these things happen for your selves and do what Jesus said you could do as a believer so many people trying to reason out debate and operating in doubt which is not of God and under a spirit of religion rather then Just having Faith and Going out there and seeing the Blind healed and Lame walk God can use you but you have to yeild and let Him He Loves you so much God Bless

Good post.

I have been used, and still being used to heal the sick, because Jesus said the believer would.
Jesus said the sick SHALL RECOVER,
Healing always comes, but it isn't always received.

 

[SpiritofElijah]

You will one day get sick. You will die one day. One day you will see the error in what you are saying today. My concern happens to be that you will lose your beliefs when that day comes.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

I rebuke those worDs spoken over my life in Jesus name

 

[OwenHeidenreich]

GODS WILL IS FOR ALL PEOPLE TO BE HEALED. THE ONLY TIME SOMEONE IS NOT HEALED IS WHEN THE DISCIPLE THAT IS PRAYING DOES NOT HAVE FAITH. YOU MAY THINK YOU HAVE FAITH BUT OPTIMISM ISNT FAITH!

STOP DENYING GODS POWER,

2 TIMOTHY 3:5 "HAVING A FORM OF GODLINESS BUT DENYING ITS POWER. HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THESE PEOPLE."

READ MY SIGNATURE.

 

[SpiritofElijah]

GODS WILL IS FOR ALL PEOPLE TO BE HEALED. THE ONLY TIME SOMEONE IS NOT HEALED IS WHEN THE DISCIPLE THAT IS PRAYING DOES NOT HAVE FAITH. YOU MAY THINK YOU HAVE FAITH BUT OPTIMISM ISNT FAITH!

STOP DENYING GODS POWER,

2 TIMOTHY 3:5 "HAVING A FORM OF GODLINESS BUT DENYING ITS POWER. HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THESE PEOPLE."

READ MY SIGNATURE.

Love the comment man exactly we move from Glory to Glory and as we walk in revelation our faith increases Praise God

 

[livingepistle]

Isaiah 55:8-9
New International Version (NIV)
8 “For my thoughts are not your thoughts,
neither are your ways my ways,”
declares the LORD.
9 “As the heavens are higher than the earth,
so are my ways higher than your ways
and my thoughts than your thoughts.

No matter how we attempt to understand this question and what spin commentators of this OP choose to use, only God's wisdom can answer this question.

The Bible gives specific answers to why certain illnesses are and are not healed and most commonly it is due to lack of faith as pointed out in Rickyz's post.

I pose a question to the OP author, "Do You Have The Faith To Heal Those You Show Concern For?"

 

[evangelist1]

Isaiah 55:8-9
New International Version (NIV)
8 “For my thoughts are not your thoughts,
neither are your ways my ways,”
declares the LORD.
9 “As the heavens are higher than the earth,
so are my ways higher than your ways
and my thoughts than your thoughts.

No matter how we attempt to understand this question and what spin commentators of this OP choose to use, only God's wisdom can answer this question.

The Bible gives specific answers to why certain illnesses are and are not healed and most commonly it is due to lack of faith as pointed out in Rickyz's post.

I pose a question to the OP author, "Do You Have The Faith To Heal Those You Show Concern For?"

Normally every christian should be able to get a sick person healed just like the disciple did and followed Jesus instruction to heal the sick and raise the dead.

Shalom,