Voices/Words In My Head.....

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This has been bugging me for some time now. I hear words/voices I can't really work out which it is. I only hear them when I'm either praying, in church or reading the bible (anything Christian related really). I never used to hear these voices/words when I was younger as I didn't have much faith then but as I've got older I've really learnt the importance of faith and understand it now. These voices/words basically blaspheme whenever doing something Christian related. Horrible things are said which I certainly do NOT want to hear. I don't know what/who/why this happens. Everyday I apologise to The Lord for these terrible thoughts and ask for forgiveness and explain that I don't want to hear/say them. I fear The Lord greatly and I wonder whether It could be because I'm concentrating so hard to do the right thing all the time that my brain is going in overtime or whether it's more spiritual or even possibly because I have bouts of OCD. My mum also experiences this and I've heard that others do to. Have any other Christians experienced this? Thank you in advance and may God bless you all
 
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This has been bugging me for some time now. I hear words/voices I can't really work out which it is. I only hear them when I'm either praying, in church or reading the bible (anything Christian related really). I never used to hear these voices/words when I was younger as I didn't have much faith then but as I've got older I've really learnt the importance of faith and understand it now. These voices/words basically blaspheme whenever doing something Christian related. Horrible things are said which I certainly do NOT want to hear. I don't know what/who/why this happens. Everyday I apologise to The Lord for these terrible thoughts and ask for forgiveness and explain that I don't want to hear/say them. I fear The Lord greatly and I wonder whether It could be because I'm concentrating so hard to do the right thing all the time that my brain is going in overtime or whether it's more spiritual or even possibly because I have bouts of OCD. My mum also experiences this and I've heard that others do to. Have any other Christians experienced this? Thank you in advance and may God bless you all
it's not you, it's the enemy trying to disrupt what you are doing, he hates anything related to being a christian, you have the power to tell them to take a hike in the name of Jesus,
 
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it's not you, it's the enemy trying to disrupt what you are doing, he hates anything related to being a christian, you have the power to tell them to take a hike in the name of Jesus,
Thank you for your information, I will try demanding it to leave my mind. I had an idea it could be that. It's going in overtime now as I'm reading your quote :-( God Bless
 
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Thanks for sharing this MarriedWoman. You helped me immensely by sharing this!
 
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Thanks for sharing this MarriedWoman. You helped me immensely by sharing this!
No problem, I'm taking a guess that you may have had the same problem, with the power of The Lord you can soon sort it out as I've just learned!
 
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I have a had a few bouts with this over the years (very short ones) - just rebuke satan and don't let it worry you.
 
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You don't need to apologize to God at all though the voices will make you feel like you're at fault since they're inside your head. Like everyone has said, try rebuking them all and telling them to go in Jesus' Name. If that doesn't work, don't feel like there's something wrong with you. (If it does work, I would still advise to take a second look.) It sounds to me like, especially since your mom has the same issue, it is tied to an ancestral occult thing. When demons can infiltrate your thoughts even while you're praying and reading the Bible, etc., it's because they have legal rights to be around in spite of your being a Christian. Legal rights come from many things, but the most severe ones (that give demons rights to mess with Christians no matter what they seem to try) are occult ones. You should ask your mom about it or take a second look. The good thing is that the voices are actually telling you (not purposely) that something is wrong, because it doesn't happen to Christians normally. I hope this was helpful.
 
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You don't need to apologize to God at all though the voices will make you feel like you're at fault since they're inside your head. Like everyone has said, try rebuking them all and telling them to go in Jesus' Name. If that doesn't work, don't feel like there's something wrong with you. (If it does work, I would still advise to take a second look.) It sounds to me like, especially since your mom has the same issue, it is tied to an ancestral occult thing. When demons can infiltrate your thoughts even while you're praying and reading the Bible, etc., it's because they have legal rights to be around in spite of your being a Christian. Legal rights come from many things, but the most severe ones (that give demons rights to mess with Christians no matter what they seem to try) are occult ones. You should ask your mom about it or take a second look. The good thing is that the voices are actually telling you (not purposely) that something is wrong, because it doesn't happen to Christians normally. I hope this was helpful.
Thank you, this has helped me immensely. I have asked for the thoughts to go and they have. I'll keep doing it every time it happens, I'm just glad that I'm not doing anything wrong as I did feel guilty but now I understand that I don't need to. Thank you!
 
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This has been bugging me for some time now. I hear words/voices I can't really work out which it is. I only hear them when I'm either praying, in church or reading the bible (anything Christian related really). I never used to hear these voices/words when I was younger as I didn't have much faith then but as I've got older I've really learnt the importance of faith and understand it now. These voices/words basically blaspheme whenever doing something Christian related. Horrible things are said which I certainly do NOT want to hear. I don't know what/who/why this happens. Everyday I apologise to The Lord for these terrible thoughts and ask for forgiveness and explain that I don't want to hear/say them. I fear The Lord greatly and I wonder whether It could be because I'm concentrating so hard to do the right thing all the time that my brain is going in overtime or whether it's more spiritual or even possibly because I have bouts of OCD. My mum also experiences this and I've heard that others do to. Have any other Christians experienced this? Thank you in advance and may God bless you all
Ephesians 5.26 speaks of the 'washing of water by the word'. If we keep our minds focused on Scripture prayerfully, then other things which might crowd it out have less of a chance to do so. In the end, it's a blessing to be able to keep 'looking unto Jesus' (Hebrews 12.2).
 
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Hey Allin. I have had the problem ever since I first became a Christian a long time ago. But it got worse and worse and worse. And then it let up a little for a while. And it stays, and causes a lot of problems. Sometimes it goes away when saying to begone in the name of Jesus Christ. Sometimes it gets harsher.

But what you say is very interesting. As soon as you mentioned that this is a kind of curse having to do with the occult, the first person I thought of was my mom, and then next was my wife's mom! LOL. I know men tend to be biased against their mother-in-laws, but this one is for real. Whenever my wife's mom says, "I will pray for you!" I know in my heart that she is praying against me. She can't stand me for any reason. She tried to tell my wife to divorce me a while back. Now she just tries to make sure she is in every facet of our lives, and my wife has finally learned to simply shut her down. Good.

As for my mom, she spent most of my life telling me, "Guess what, this is going to happen to you, and this is going to happen to you" always wishing bad things against me. Not in the way of instruction, but as a form of revenge. She has admitted she was the "revenge queen" when she was younger, and people would go to her for that, to devise revenge against people.

Since I have had kids, I've had to battle her because she wants to ensure to rile the kids up and cause them to perform badly because she wants me to suffer as revenge for anything she had to deal with me as her kid. And knowing how badly many people have treated their moms, she certainly does not even have a foundation to base her anger on, I was almost always respectful, even as a teenager, as much as a teenager could be.

I have always used the term, when people are attacking me too much, "I have enough voices in my head, I don't need yours!"

I have to be extremely careful what I share, or else she will use it to draw me in. As well, I have found myself, in order to defend my authority over my children, I have had to put her in place, and I see this is odd because I should not be instructing my parents and it makes me sick.

Now many things my parents gave to me that were right, but many things wrong as well.

My mom has practiced occult and used this stuff on me. It also put within me early on a desire to learn of mysticism. Now I never practiced it or even believed it was good. I always got the vibe like it was really foolish. And a few things that I didn't know was occult I learned about (such as the Meyers Briggs system based upon Carl Jung's findings for psychology). I've always been a searcher. I discarded that though.

Also, another thing that caused me much suffering was the seventh day movement. Above all things, God allowed punishment the most for that thing against me. I sought to find rest in a day rather than in the Lord, which He had given me before hand.

At any rate, backtracking on the minor tangent, I am positive that my mom performed occult things against me, both to punish and to attempt to increase me in the ways she thought were good, and I'm positive that my wife's mother has prayed against me heavily to whomever she prays to, even though she claims it is the Lord, I know it isn't, especially knowing her character. My mom and my wife's mom both have that "Jezebel" thing going, except, interestingly enough, on opposite sides of the spectrum. My mom is queen bee, in charge, in your face, serve me. Whereas my mother-in-law is queen bee, "sure, you're in charge", "can I say something?", "let me serve you so that I have leverage!".

It's annoying at best.

I have to remind myself to honor and love my mother, though I do not respect her ways, and the same for my mother-in-law, in as much as I am able, and to remind my wife to not be hateful to her, but to honor her. And the question is always asked, and was asked of my dad, and indirectly by my mom, and by my wife also: "How can you honor your parents if you get angry with them, or you tell them they are wrong, or you don't do what they say?"

And I say all the time, "I will honor my parents by doing good and believing what is right, even if it is against them, for it will reflect well on them."
 
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Thank you, this has helped me immensely. I have asked for the thoughts to go and they have. I'll keep doing it every time it happens, I'm just glad that I'm not doing anything wrong as I did feel guilty but now I understand that I don't need to. Thank you!
Yep. As long as it happens, they'll try to make you feel at fault. The enemy goes right for a person's foundation-- a person's sense of worth. I can't tell you what to do to counter this, but just be aware that the underlying voice you're going to be getting (the feeling basically) will revolve around "It's you; it's your fault; you're the one." I hope you can get help resolving it or at least be able to hold off till you do.
 
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Hey Allin. I have had the problem ever since I first became a Christian a long time ago. But it got worse and worse and worse. And then it let up a little for a while. And it stays, and causes a lot of problems. Sometimes it goes away when saying to begone in the name of Jesus Christ. Sometimes it gets harsher.

But what you say is very interesting. As soon as you mentioned that this is a kind of curse having to do with the occult, the first person I thought of was my mom, and then next was my wife's mom! LOL. I know men tend to be biased against their mother-in-laws, but this one is for real. Whenever my wife's mom says, "I will pray for you!" I know in my heart that she is praying against me. She can't stand me for any reason. She tried to tell my wife to divorce me a while back. Now she just tries to make sure she is in every facet of our lives, and my wife has finally learned to simply shut her down. Good.

As for my mom, she spent most of my life telling me, "Guess what, this is going to happen to you, and this is going to happen to you" always wishing bad things against me. Not in the way of instruction, but as a form of revenge. She has admitted she was the "revenge queen" when she was younger, and people would go to her for that, to devise revenge against people.

Since I have had kids, I've had to battle her because she wants to ensure to rile the kids up and cause them to perform badly because she wants me to suffer as revenge for anything she had to deal with me as her kid. And knowing how badly many people have treated their moms, she certainly does not even have a foundation to base her anger on, I was almost always respectful, even as a teenager, as much as a teenager could be.

I have always used the term, when people are attacking me too much, "I have enough voices in my head, I don't need yours!"

I have to be extremely careful what I share, or else she will use it to draw me in. As well, I have found myself, in order to defend my authority over my children, I have had to put her in place, and I see this is odd because I should not be instructing my parents and it makes me sick.

Now many things my parents gave to me that were right, but many things wrong as well.

My mom has practiced occult and used this stuff on me. It also put within me early on a desire to learn of mysticism. Now I never practiced it or even believed it was good. I always got the vibe like it was really foolish. And a few things that I didn't know was occult I learned about (such as the Meyers Briggs system based upon Carl Jung's findings for psychology). I've always been a searcher. I discarded that though.

Also, another thing that caused me much suffering was the seventh day movement. Above all things, God allowed punishment the most for that thing against me. I sought to find rest in a day rather than in the Lord, which He had given me before hand.

At any rate, backtracking on the minor tangent, I am positive that my mom performed occult things against me, both to punish and to attempt to increase me in the ways she thought were good, and I'm positive that my wife's mother has prayed against me heavily to whomever she prays to, even though she claims it is the Lord, I know it isn't, especially knowing her character. My mom and my wife's mom both have that "Jezebel" thing going, except, interestingly enough, on opposite sides of the spectrum. My mom is queen bee, in charge, in your face, serve me. Whereas my mother-in-law is queen bee, "sure, you're in charge", "can I say something?", "let me serve you so that I have leverage!".

It's annoying at best.

I have to remind myself to honor and love my mother, though I do not respect her ways, and the same for my mother-in-law, in as much as I am able, and to remind my wife to not be hateful to her, but to honor her. And the question is always asked, and was asked of my dad, and indirectly by my mom, and by my wife also: "How can you honor your parents if you get angry with them, or you tell them they are wrong, or you don't do what they say?"

And I say all the time, "I will honor my parents by doing good and believing what is right, even if it is against them, for it will reflect well on them."
Well. If you can pinpoint the season when it tapered off, you can probably be closer to the origin of all of it.

This is interesting; you wrote: “As soon as you mentioned that this is a kind of curse having to do with the occult, the first person I thought of was my mom, and then next was my wife's mom!” I said nothing about a curse. My actual words were: “It sounds to me like, especially since your mom has the same issue, it is tied to an ancestral occult thing.” You added the word “curse”. You may have received a word of knowledge right then, because I didn’t mention “curse”. It sounds to me that the origin may be your mom and that she has been speaking curses (and still is speaking them) into your life. In courts of law, words and wording are very important. In the spirit, especially as concerns evil spirits, the same is true. E.g. In ’03, I was researching ‘generational curses’ and wasn’t getting any new info. One day, I decided to type, ‘family curses’ into the search; as soon as I hit ‘enter’, I got a visitation from the demonic as they begged and pleaded not to have them removed from my life. While most people define ‘generational curses’ and ‘family curses’ the same (if you google both, you get the same basic results), they are apparently different in the spirit. For me generational curses had to do with iniquities and demonism that came down from my ancestry; but family curses had to do with curses spoken over me by family both in the past and in the present. I don’t know what exactly it is for you, but whenever an attack or oppression gets worse when you speak against it in Jesus’ Name, it means that there is entrenched demonism. They will have right to attack you harder if you have been put in their claim which I bet confuses and discourages a lot of Christians who, when they use what they know to use, come under even greater attack. Sometimes, it’s like trying to fight a jailer who has lawfully put you in prison; good luck until “a greater” arrives on the scene with a higher or greater law or authority. In Christ, the Law of Grace (the New Covenant) is the only law by which a person who is lawfully imprisoned can be lawfully released (which is what Jesus meant when He said that no one enters a strongman’s house (his own lawful dwelling) and takes his goods (captives) unless the person who comes is “a stronger” (comes with greater authority or right to take from the strongman what actually belongs to him)).

When you have your own children or wife, it’s time to start instructing anyone (including your parents) who gets in the way. When God spoke to Samuel, He told him to strongly rebuke Eli who was his guardian/parent, was way older than him, was God’s priest, and had more authority than Samuel. It’s a good thing that you know that your mom practiced occultism; you’re way ahead of many Christians whose parents or relatives are cursing them and they have no idea. (My dad contracted ignorant Christians to pray against me unwittingly. They raised their voices as one to pray for doors to close on ‘that rebellious child’ to force me back to my parents… and their prayers worked though they meant no harm. They were ignorant, but spiritual things work.)

At any rate, backtracking on the minor tangent, I am positive that my mom performed occult things against me, both to punish and to attempt to increase me in the ways she thought were good, and I'm positive that my wife's mother has prayed against me heavily to whomever she prays to, even though she claims it is the Lord, I know it isn't, especially knowing her character. My mom and my wife's mom both have that "Jezebel" thing going, except, interestingly enough, on opposite sides of the spectrum. Though women tend to lean toward rebellion because men don’t take charge (“Where there is no vision (the male is the vision caster), the people cast off restraint”), it remains true that the Jezebel spirit plays the main role in keeping men down so that men won’t take charge, stand in our authority (as Christianese often misquotes), and see the end of Jezebel and then every other principality, power, authority, and whatever else they call themselves. It takes authority to defeat authority, and because men have primary authority against which Jezebel is completely powerless (don’t let anyone deceive you about this), the Jezebel spirit constantly works to keep men from taking responsibility and standing in our authority. Through my aunt, this same spirit tried to abort me while I was in my mother’s womb. The human through whom it operates may not know why they are attacking you, but the spirit knows full well. Maybe you have a calling that goes directly against the interests of the Jezebel spirit (when she descends on you specifically, this is basically the reason) and so she’s doing the best she can to keep you off-balance, confused, uncertain, and fearful (the stomping grounds where she uses pretty freely her own authority). Why don’t you take a closer look at your mom and dad and their relationship, your mother-in-law and her relationship with her husband (if she has one), and your own relationship with your wife. I’d love to quote passages that say we’re more than conquerors, but curses that come from the Jezebel spirit should be taken seriously (Elijah took them a little too seriously and ran).

Honoring your parents is a stance of the heart: you choose to respect their position as your natural parents. You are free to totally cut yourself off from anyone, parents included, who causes you harm, distress, or pain. If any of these people is messing with your wife or your kids (God’s opinion of witchcraft and those who use it is very clear in the Bible: “You will not allow a witch to live” which for today is don’t let them ply their craft on you), the very best thing to do is to cut them off; finding the best way to do that is between you and the Lord. I cut off all family members, both those involved in the occult and those not, because if I'm going to live and be who I am, I can have nothing to do with any of that (I know in the future I'll return but as a totally different person and in a different way).
 
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Then I am guilt free Allin.

I have done much better than I thought I had been doing.

I have inspected all the relationships heavily indeed.

Everything that you say aligns with what I have understood so far, despite the attacks to the contrary, both external and internal.

Thank you very much! :D
 
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Oh, and when the attacks tapered off, not to add to the conversation for the sake of it, but in the event it helps anyone else out: I did not have the attacks when I was living in complete liberty without worry about whether I was guilty or not. At this time, I was not always perfect, no, but I was free. I wasn't trying too hard to please the Lord, I wasn't searching new doctrine or trying to change, I wasn't allowing any one to change my mind about anything, I wasn't worried about my salvation, I was willing to stand in the middle of a tornado storm and say, "It's not going to get us. I'm standing here."

When I made mistakes, I said, "Oops. Moving on." When bad things happened to me, I laughed. Even bad bodily pain. I was afraid of nothing. I was afraid of no one. I was even more bold in my speech, and in my humor. I was a walking, talking, welcoming, but almost arrogantly bold, fire.

I was the epitome of passion.

The Lord has led me down a path to humility, which is very good for me. And I have learned many things. And if I had not come this route, there are many things I would not understand, and therefore I would not be able to help people in these things, at least, not directly. But I think the main attack I had against me that allowed all of this stuff to have a hold over me is that the main reason people have hated me, even as a child, was because of my brains. Brains and boldness are not very attractive to many. And my intentions are generally heavily misconstrued. And I was attacked frequently and eventually allowed myself to think a few times, "I would rather be ignorant than to be attacked like this all of the time."

People also find it hard to understand where my loyalties lie. Because I do not ally with people, but with the truth. So people think I am inconsistent because I do not back up my friends consistently, and sometimes I will back up my enemies, or my friend's enemies.

So then I allowed myself to believe those things, and to feel bad, and tried to change myself some. Though, of course, that would never work. I never could change myself from that. But the internal attacks were able to take hold from those things. I allowed other peoples' intentions to have power over me.

Now that I am saying this stuff, this is now obvious. I don't think any evil power would have had any foothold on me if I had not let anyone inside my head in the first place.
 
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Then I am guilt free Allin.

I have done much better than I thought I had been doing.

I have inspected all the relationships heavily indeed.

Everything that you say aligns with what I have understood so far, despite the attacks to the contrary, both external and internal.

Thank you very much! :D
Yes, you're guilt free. When under attack or oppression from Jezebel, confusion and loss of vision (the same thing) are the first things you will experience and keep experiencing. It's hard to know when you're doing things right when that spirit is continually keeping you in the dark and assailing your mind with "It's you; it's you who are to blame." I'm glad you see clearer now and see that you've been doing much better than you thought at first.
 
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Oh, and when the attacks tapered off, not to add to the conversation for the sake of it, but in the event it helps anyone else out: I did not have the attacks when I was living in complete liberty without worry about whether I was guilty or not. At this time, I was not always perfect, no, but I was free. I wasn't trying too hard to please the Lord, I wasn't searching new doctrine or trying to change, I wasn't allowing any one to change my mind about anything, I wasn't worried about my salvation, I was willing to stand in the middle of a tornado storm and say, "It's not going to get us. I'm standing here."

When I made mistakes, I said, "Oops. Moving on." When bad things happened to me, I laughed. Even bad bodily pain. I was afraid of nothing. I was afraid of no one. I was even more bold in my speech, and in my humor. I was a walking, talking, welcoming, but almost arrogantly bold, fire.

I was the epitome of passion.

The Lord has led me down a path to humility, which is very good for me. And I have learned many things. And if I had not come this route, there are many things I would not understand, and therefore I would not be able to help people in these things, at least, not directly. But I think the main attack I had against me that allowed all of this stuff to have a hold over me is that the main reason people have hated me, even as a child, was because of my brains. Brains and boldness are not very attractive to many. And my intentions are generally heavily misconstrued. And I was attacked frequently and eventually allowed myself to think a few times, "I would rather be ignorant than to be attacked like this all of the time."

People also find it hard to understand where my loyalties lie. Because I do not ally with people, but with the truth. So people think I am inconsistent because I do not back up my friends consistently, and sometimes I will back up my enemies, or my friend's enemies.

So then I allowed myself to believe those things, and to feel bad, and tried to change myself some. Though, of course, that would never work. I never could change myself from that. But the internal attacks were able to take hold from those things. I allowed other peoples' intentions to have power over me.

Now that I am saying this stuff, this is now obvious. I don't think any evil power would have had any foothold on me if I had not let anyone inside my head in the first place.
'It appears apparent' (as I like to say, lol) that you have a prophetic calling and maybe apostolic. (Quick distinction: the prophetic is given eyes to see and will spot all the tricks and such of Jezebel and other hidden works of the enemy; however, the prophetic only is given authority, when by itself, to fight against and oppose and expose Jezebel but not authority to execute or get rid of it if you will. The apostolic is given authority to execute Jezebel (she will harass and torment prophetic people before trying to get rid of them but will instantly plot to kill the apostolic ministry) and will do so on sight if it is the Lord's will at the time with no waste of time (we see these contrasts in the prophets Elijah and Elisha vs. Jehu who symbolized genuine apostolic ministry. Jehu ate up the ground to rid the land of all Jezebel's offspring and Jezebel herself before stopping to take a break).) When the apostolic ministry came on scene in the Bible (NT), Jezebel is last heard of fighting a prophet (John the Baptist), disappears from the pages during Jesus' apostolic (and prophetic and pastoral, etc.) ministry, and only reappears when there are no apostles to send her off in the Church of Thyatira. This spirit, more than any spirit I know, understands spiritual authority, right, or say so and will duck and avoid it as much as possible if possible. (But the religious spirit is the one that has authority to contend against the apostolic and even kill (and against which the apostolic will fight but rarely kill) as we see that Jezebel through Herodias killed John the Baptist but the religious spirit killed the Lord and the apostles and apostolic ministers. These are matters of spiritual authority and spiritual laws and how they function in that realm where it doesn't make sense to us here on this plane.) Integrity is the hallmark of prophetic ministry (and is foundational to apostolic ministry), and you have it. Jezebel is as deceptive as they come and so hates integrity. Of course, as is par for the course, Jezebel has tried to destroy you (by attacking your self-worth and assurance) before you learned of your calling or identity in Christ (it's always the same thing: it happened with Moses, with Jesus, with many Bible Saints, and with even more Saints in the Bible but unrecorded). I hope that you are gaining revelation and that the Lord or the Spirit (or both) will continue to unfold it to you. It really makes a difference in a Christian's life to know why things happen in their lives and what their identity in Christ (individual identity, calling, or purpose for literal existence) is.
 
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Hi marriedwoman,

I believe the voice that you heard is from the devil tray to stop you being christian.

I suggest you take a time to pray and fasting ask the Lord to help you stop hearing this voice
 
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Hey Allin. I have had the problem ever since I first became a Christian a long time ago. But it got worse and worse and worse. And then it let up a little for a while. And it stays, and causes a lot of problems. Sometimes it goes away when saying to begone in the name of Jesus Christ. Sometimes it gets harsher.

But what you say is very interesting. As soon as you mentioned that this is a kind of curse having to do with the occult, the first person I thought of was my mom, and then next was my wife's mom! LOL. I know men tend to be biased against their mother-in-laws, but this one is for real. Whenever my wife's mom says, "I will pray for you!" I know in my heart that she is praying against me. She can't stand me for any reason. She tried to tell my wife to divorce me a while back. Now she just tries to make sure she is in every facet of our lives, and my wife has finally learned to simply shut her down. Good.

As for my mom, she spent most of my life telling me, "Guess what, this is going to happen to you, and this is going to happen to you" always wishing bad things against me. Not in the way of instruction, but as a form of revenge. She has admitted she was the "revenge queen" when she was younger, and people would go to her for that, to devise revenge against people.

Since I have had kids, I've had to battle her because she wants to ensure to rile the kids up and cause them to perform badly because she wants me to suffer as revenge for anything she had to deal with me as her kid. And knowing how badly many people have treated their moms, she certainly does not even have a foundation to base her anger on, I was almost always respectful, even as a teenager, as much as a teenager could be.

I have always used the term, when people are attacking me too much, "I have enough voices in my head, I don't need yours!"

I have to be extremely careful what I share, or else she will use it to draw me in. As well, I have found myself, in order to defend my authority over my children, I have had to put her in place, and I see this is odd because I should not be instructing my parents and it makes me sick.

Now many things my parents gave to me that were right, but many things wrong as well.

My mom has practiced occult and used this stuff on me. It also put within me early on a desire to learn of mysticism. Now I never practiced it or even believed it was good. I always got the vibe like it was really foolish. And a few things that I didn't know was occult I learned about (such as the Meyers Briggs system based upon Carl Jung's findings for psychology). I've always been a searcher. I discarded that though.

Also, another thing that caused me much suffering was the seventh day movement. Above all things, God allowed punishment the most for that thing against me. I sought to find rest in a day rather than in the Lord, which He had given me before hand.

At any rate, backtracking on the minor tangent, I am positive that my mom performed occult things against me, both to punish and to attempt to increase me in the ways she thought were good, and I'm positive that my wife's mother has prayed against me heavily to whomever she prays to, even though she claims it is the Lord, I know it isn't, especially knowing her character. My mom and my wife's mom both have that "Jezebel" thing going, except, interestingly enough, on opposite sides of the spectrum. My mom is queen bee, in charge, in your face, serve me. Whereas my mother-in-law is queen bee, "sure, you're in charge", "can I say something?", "let me serve you so that I have leverage!".

It's annoying at best.

I have to remind myself to honor and love my mother, though I do not respect her ways, and the same for my mother-in-law, in as much as I am able, and to remind my wife to not be hateful to her, but to honor her. And the question is always asked, and was asked of my dad, and indirectly by my mom, and by my wife also: "How can you honor your parents if you get angry with them, or you tell them they are wrong, or you don't do what they say?"

And I say all the time, "I will honor my parents by doing good and believing what is right, even if it is against them, for it will reflect well on them."
I have this scripture written on notebook paper next to my desk. It has always been very important to me, especially the second part.

Isaiah 54:17 " No weapon formed against you shall prosper, And every tongue that rises against you in judgement, you shall condemn. This is the heritages of the servants of The Lord, And their righteousness is from Me."

The tongues that you condemn in Jesus' name are not those of your mother or mother in law, but the demons that would speak through them.

Ephesians 6:12 "For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places."
 
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danalee

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This has been bugging me for some time now. I hear words/voices I can't really work out which it is. I only hear them when I'm either praying, in church or reading the bible (anything Christian related really). I never used to hear these voices/words when I was younger as I didn't have much faith then but as I've got older I've really learnt the importance of faith and understand it now. These voices/words basically blaspheme whenever doing something Christian related. Horrible things are said which I certainly do NOT want to hear. I don't know what/who/why this happens. Everyday I apologise to The Lord for these terrible thoughts and ask for forgiveness and explain that I don't want to hear/say them. I fear The Lord greatly and I wonder whether It could be because I'm concentrating so hard to do the right thing all the time that my brain is going in overtime or whether it's more spiritual or even possibly because I have bouts of OCD. My mum also experiences this and I've heard that others do to. Have any other Christians experienced this? Thank you in advance and may God bless you all
Yes.

A tired brain is more likely to have this.

So I can give you the psychological definition as well. The spiritual explanation might work better for you but it can scare some people so I usually start with explaining the other, and also stress/inborn imbalances make this worse and just prayer may not be the full answer. (note full)

Some have speculated that part of the mind is a regulatory center and it contains messages that are mostly subconscious and they develop in childhood from parents and authority figures. They keep us in line, such as, "don't take that cookie before dinner you'll get in trouble." etc - we pick it up early. If the authority figures are stern, these messages can be harsh and run like a tape recorder. After many years, as we age or if we become sick, these subconscious messages start appearing in the 'heard mind'. They are then called auditory hallucinations or voices. We all have them. Yet if they bark loudly or yell at you to the point where you can't think I am recommending you get evaluated by a psychiatrist, hopefully you can find a christian based organization but I know most are not. This symptom can be helped with certain medications or health promotion like sleep and diet. You don't need to live with scary, demeaning voices. Therapy is also helpful - we want the ego (the talking part of the mind) to over-ride those other voices. They are usually not a part of you, which is hard to explain. Good luck and God bless.
 
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tarzan

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I prayed for the gift of prophecy before like Paul instructs that we should seek after it. But I must admit, I really do not think I am worthy of anything apostolic. I do not think I am worthy of prophecy on that note. But I really, really think I am not worthy.

If God wants me to do something, that I will do, and I won't argue or complain by any means (knowingly, that is; because I have argued or complained about something that I later found out was God's purpose).

I'm torn between giving testimony or embellishing my humility so as to stray from appearances.