Hey Allin. I have had the problem ever since I first became a Christian a long time ago. But it got worse and worse and worse. And then it let up a little for a while. And it stays, and causes a lot of problems. Sometimes it goes away when saying to begone in the name of Jesus Christ. Sometimes it gets harsher.
But what you say is very interesting. As soon as you mentioned that this is a kind of curse having to do with the occult, the first person I thought of was my mom, and then next was my wife's mom! LOL. I know men tend to be biased against their mother-in-laws, but this one is for real. Whenever my wife's mom says, "I will pray for you!" I know in my heart that she is praying against me. She can't stand me for any reason. She tried to tell my wife to divorce me a while back. Now she just tries to make sure she is in every facet of our lives, and my wife has finally learned to simply shut her down. Good.
As for my mom, she spent most of my life telling me, "Guess what, this is going to happen to you, and this is going to happen to you" always wishing bad things against me. Not in the way of instruction, but as a form of revenge. She has admitted she was the "revenge queen" when she was younger, and people would go to her for that, to devise revenge against people.
Since I have had kids, I've had to battle her because she wants to ensure to rile the kids up and cause them to perform badly because she wants me to suffer as revenge for anything she had to deal with me as her kid. And knowing how badly many people have treated their moms, she certainly does not even have a foundation to base her anger on, I was almost always respectful, even as a teenager, as much as a teenager could be.
I have always used the term, when people are attacking me too much, "I have enough voices in my head, I don't need yours!"
I have to be extremely careful what I share, or else she will use it to draw me in. As well, I have found myself, in order to defend my authority over my children, I have had to put her in place, and I see this is odd because I should not be instructing my parents and it makes me sick.
Now many things my parents gave to me that were right, but many things wrong as well.
My mom has practiced occult and used this stuff on me. It also put within me early on a desire to learn of mysticism. Now I never practiced it or even believed it was good. I always got the vibe like it was really foolish. And a few things that I didn't know was occult I learned about (such as the Meyers Briggs system based upon Carl Jung's findings for psychology). I've always been a searcher. I discarded that though.
Also, another thing that caused me much suffering was the seventh day movement. Above all things, God allowed punishment the most for that thing against me. I sought to find rest in a day rather than in the Lord, which He had given me before hand.
At any rate, backtracking on the minor tangent, I am positive that my mom performed occult things against me, both to punish and to attempt to increase me in the ways she thought were good, and I'm positive that my wife's mother has prayed against me heavily to whomever she prays to, even though she claims it is the Lord, I know it isn't, especially knowing her character. My mom and my wife's mom both have that "Jezebel" thing going, except, interestingly enough, on opposite sides of the spectrum. My mom is queen bee, in charge, in your face, serve me. Whereas my mother-in-law is queen bee, "sure, you're in charge", "can I say something?", "let me serve you so that I have leverage!".
It's annoying at best.
I have to remind myself to honor and love my mother, though I do not respect her ways, and the same for my mother-in-law, in as much as I am able, and to remind my wife to not be hateful to her, but to honor her. And the question is always asked, and was asked of my dad, and indirectly by my mom, and by my wife also: "How can you honor your parents if you get angry with them, or you tell them they are wrong, or you don't do what they say?"
And I say all the time, "I will honor my parents by doing good and believing what is right, even if it is against them, for it will reflect well on them."
Well. If you can pinpoint the season when it tapered off, you can probably be closer to the origin of all of it.
This is interesting; you wrote: “As soon as you mentioned that this is a kind of curse having to do with the occult, the first person I thought of was my mom, and then next was my wife's mom!” I said nothing about a curse. My actual words were: “It sounds to me like, especially since your mom has the same issue, it is tied to an ancestral occult thing.” You added the word “curse”. You may have received a word of knowledge right then, because I didn’t mention “curse”. It sounds to me that the origin may be your mom and that she has been speaking curses (and still is speaking them) into your life. In courts of law, words and wording are very important. In the spirit, especially as concerns evil spirits, the same is true. E.g. In ’03, I was researching ‘generational curses’ and wasn’t getting any new info. One day, I decided to type, ‘family curses’ into the search;
as soon as I hit ‘enter’, I got a visitation from the demonic as they begged and pleaded not to have them removed from my life. While most people define ‘generational curses’ and ‘family curses’ the same (if you google both, you get the same basic results), they are apparently different in the spirit. For me generational curses had to do with iniquities and demonism that came down from my ancestry; but family curses had to do with curses spoken over me by family both in the past and in the present. I don’t know what exactly it is for you, but whenever an attack or oppression gets worse when you speak against it in Jesus’ Name, it means that there is entrenched demonism. They will have right to attack you harder if you have been put in their claim which I bet confuses and discourages a lot of Christians who, when they use what they know to use, come under even greater attack. Sometimes, it’s like trying to fight a jailer who has lawfully put you in prison; good luck until “a greater” arrives on the scene with a higher or greater law or authority. In Christ, the Law of Grace (the New Covenant) is the only law by which a person who is lawfully imprisoned can be lawfully released (which is what Jesus meant when He said that no one enters a strongman’s house (his own lawful dwelling) and takes his goods (captives) unless the person who comes is
“a stronger” (comes with greater authority or right to take from the strongman what actually belongs to him)).
When you have your own children or wife, it’s time to start instructing anyone (including your parents) who gets in the way. When God spoke to Samuel, He told him to strongly rebuke Eli who was his guardian/parent, was way older than him, was God’s priest, and had more authority than Samuel. It’s a good thing that you know that your mom practiced occultism; you’re way ahead of many Christians whose parents or relatives are cursing them and they have no idea. (My dad contracted ignorant Christians to pray against me unwittingly. They raised their voices as one to pray for doors to close on ‘that rebellious child’ to force me back to my parents… and their prayers worked though they meant no harm. They were ignorant, but spiritual things work.)
At any rate, backtracking on the minor tangent, I am positive that my mom performed occult things against me, both to punish and to attempt to increase me in the ways she thought were good, and I'm positive that my wife's mother has prayed against me heavily to whomever she prays to, even though she claims it is the Lord, I know it isn't, especially knowing her character. My mom and my wife's mom both have that "Jezebel" thing going, except, interestingly enough, on opposite sides of the spectrum. Though women tend to lean toward rebellion because men don’t take charge (
“Where there is no vision (the male is the vision caster), the people cast off restraint”), it remains true that the Jezebel spirit plays the main role in keeping men down so that men won’t take charge, stand in our authority (as Christianese often misquotes), and see the end of Jezebel and then every other principality, power, authority, and whatever else they call themselves. It takes authority to defeat authority, and because men have primary authority against which Jezebel is
completely powerless (don’t let anyone deceive you about this), the Jezebel spirit constantly works to keep men from taking responsibility and standing in our authority. Through my aunt, this same spirit tried to abort me while I was in my mother’s womb. The human through whom it operates may not know why they are attacking you, but the spirit knows full well. Maybe you have a calling that goes directly against the interests of the Jezebel spirit (when she descends on you specifically, this is basically the reason) and so she’s doing the best she can to keep you off-balance, confused, uncertain, and fearful (the stomping grounds where she uses pretty freely her own authority). Why don’t you take a closer look at your mom and dad and their relationship, your mother-in-law and her relationship with her husband (if she has one), and your own relationship with your wife. I’d love to quote passages that say we’re more than conquerors, but curses that come from the Jezebel spirit should be taken seriously (Elijah took them a little too seriously and ran).
Honoring your parents is a stance of the heart: you choose to respect their position as your natural parents. You are free to totally cut yourself off from anyone, parents included, who causes you harm, distress, or pain. If any of these people is messing with your wife or your kids (God’s opinion of witchcraft and those who use it is very clear in the Bible:
“You will not allow a witch to live” which for today is don’t let them ply their craft on you), the very best thing to do is to cut them off; finding the best way to do that is between you and the Lord. I cut off all family members, both those involved in the occult and those not, because if I'm going to live and be who I am, I can have nothing to do with any of that (I know in the future I'll return but as a totally different person and in a different way).