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pastac
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okay. i still don't get it.
its ok most don't get it either.
Get it?
okay. i still don't get it.
Why is the HE in verse 5 not God? It would seem most logical that the He is referring to God, not this other entity. In fact, that is made even clearer in the Hebrew (and for that matter, the Hebrew), where pronouns are grammatically tied more closely to their referents in English. For instance, the Hebrew there doesn't use a separate word for the pronoun 'he' - the verb for 'called' is simply conjugated to essentially reflect the nominative case, clearly referring to the subject of the sentence, who is God.
I fear you read too much into the English grammar.
its ok don't loose sleep over it.no pastac, i don't get it.
but i tried.
Ok so them saying He was hanged on a tree means what?I understand you are new to all this. The case may even be that you speak I out of regurgitation and you will never break free of you. Take your time give it a chance. Try to reread all of it without the pnouns entering YOU. The bible was not written for Nick. When it addresses YOU it is not literally addressing the person NICK. He was not made to represent GOD...HE came from GOD. GOD in creation separated evil from good. This is that tree.
This holds true all the way through the bible even to the crucifixion. No where does it say JESUS was crucified or literally put on a cross. They crucified """HIM""".
No, no, that's not right - it's
I am John and you is John and we are all John together.
Sometimes...
I understand you are new to all this. The case may even be that you speak I out of regurgitation and you will never break free of you. Take your time give it a chance
Try to reread all of it without the pnouns entering YOU. The bible was not written for Nick. When it addresses YOU it is not literally addressing the person NICK. He was not made to represent GOD...HE came from GOD. GOD in creation separated evil from good. This is that tree.
This holds true all the way through the bible even to the crucifixion. No where does it say JESUS was crucified or literally put on a cross. They crucified """HIM""".
The patronisation here is fabulous and scary all at the same time.
I can agree that the Bible is not addressing me, and is not fundementally about here. But the rest is just gibberish, and again, makes even less sense if argued from the Hebrew than it does from English. If you want to twist the words and see something there that isn't supported by the text, fine. But that doesn't make it true, any more than me saying that everytime the Bible uses the pronoun 'I' it is really a bowl of petunias speaking.
This is a fruitless exercise, but here's a verse:
"Therefore let all the house of Israel know for certain that God has made Him both Lord and Christ—this Jesus whom you crucified.”
I have told you reread all of it. Patronize, judge, poke, make fun...I know the truth. I will gladly stand alone in the face of you. Reading those new translations just causes more confusion. People like you have changed the words they could never understand to "make it easier" for everyone to understand.
And what I am saying is your argument makes even less sense in the original languages. If you want to make your case, and if you think 'these new translations' are not up to scratch, then by all means make your case from the Hebrew or Greek (or even the Aramaic bits, if you're keen)
If you are convinced I am delusional why don't you move along. You have no case. Every point you try to make is hinged from what I have written. What exactly is your purpose?
If you are convinced I am delusional why don't you move along. You have no case. Every point you try to make is hinged from what I have written. What exactly is your purpose?
What exactly is your purpose?
What exactly is your purpose?
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