Salvation Not Possible Without Works
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Man could not earn his way ever in the First testament, let alone be perfect in fulfilling the Law
So why is mankind still trying to? when Christ did for you, me and all the world? Took care of our need, through him by his death cleansed us before Father to give us new life in Spirit and truth by the resurrected Christ
[h=3]Colossians 1:21-23[/h]Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
[SUP]21 [/SUP]And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled [SUP]22 [/SUP]in the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight: [SUP]23 [/SUP]if ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;
If anyone could be perfect as Christ, then Chirst came in vain, died for us in vain, and never rose and is not alive
Bull pucker, Christ is alive and we are freed from the wrath by the last shed blood of Christ it is done, finished for us if we would just believe, and stop and just trust Father to do whatever is needed through us as Christ did this, did he not?
So why is mankind still trying to? when Christ did for you, me and all the world? Took care of our need, through him by his death cleansed us before Father to give us new life in Spirit and truth by the resurrected Christ
[h=3]Colossians 1:21-23[/h]Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
[SUP]21 [/SUP]And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled [SUP]22 [/SUP]in the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight: [SUP]23 [/SUP]if ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;
If anyone could be perfect as Christ, then Chirst came in vain, died for us in vain, and never rose and is not alive
Bull pucker, Christ is alive and we are freed from the wrath by the last shed blood of Christ it is done, finished for us if we would just believe, and stop and just trust Father to do whatever is needed through us as Christ did this, did he not?
If your grandmother knitted a sweater (even if you think it is ugly) you are still expected to wear it, no?
I am not calling Jesus your grandmother. Nor am I calling salvation an ugly sweater. But I think that the application is clear.
If Jesus went to the cross for our sins and then we throw it in the closet (meaning that we don't live by it) then we have disregarded the gift.
And you shouldn't just wear Christianity when you think Jesus is coming over. He can always see you.
I am not calling Jesus your grandmother. Nor am I calling salvation an ugly sweater. But I think that the application is clear.
If Jesus went to the cross for our sins and then we throw it in the closet (meaning that we don't live by it) then we have disregarded the gift.
And you shouldn't just wear Christianity when you think Jesus is coming over. He can always see you.
[h=3]Hebrews 8:1-4[/h]Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
8 Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens; [SUP]2 [/SUP]a minister of the sanctuary, and of the true tabernacle, which the Lord pitched, and not man. [SUP]3 [/SUP]For every high priest is ordained to offer gifts and sacrifices: wherefore it is of necessity that this man have somewhat also to offer. [SUP]4 [/SUP]For if he were on earth, he should not be a priest, seeing that there are priests that offer gifts according to the law:
8 Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens; [SUP]2 [/SUP]a minister of the sanctuary, and of the true tabernacle, which the Lord pitched, and not man. [SUP]3 [/SUP]For every high priest is ordained to offer gifts and sacrifices: wherefore it is of necessity that this man have somewhat also to offer. [SUP]4 [/SUP]For if he were on earth, he should not be a priest, seeing that there are priests that offer gifts according to the law:
Hebrews 8:1-4
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
8 Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens; [SUP]2 [/SUP]a minister of the sanctuary, and of the true tabernacle, which the Lord pitched, and not man. [SUP]3 [/SUP]For every high priest is ordained to offer gifts and sacrifices: wherefore it is of necessity that this man have somewhat also to offer. [SUP]4 [/SUP]For if he were on earth, he should not be a priest, seeing that there are priests that offer gifts according to the law:
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
8 Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens; [SUP]2 [/SUP]a minister of the sanctuary, and of the true tabernacle, which the Lord pitched, and not man. [SUP]3 [/SUP]For every high priest is ordained to offer gifts and sacrifices: wherefore it is of necessity that this man have somewhat also to offer. [SUP]4 [/SUP]For if he were on earth, he should not be a priest, seeing that there are priests that offer gifts according to the law:
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THe whole premise of the catholic church is based upon the scripture in Matthew where Jesus said....On this rock I will build my church". The problem is that it is a misapplication of scripture. The "rock" Jesus spoke of was himself and the action that preceded Jesus proclamation was Peters profession of faith in Jesus. In other words Jesus built His church on the Holy Spirit moving in people as they proclaim their faith in the risen Christ.
Yes Kerry, the mind is the mind field, and doubt blows up truth, doubt in "it is finished, we are forgiven by Son at the death and have new life in the resurrected Christ, from Father.
Any doubt blows up the mind and works program slips in.
Christ is like a pure glass of water, and the enemy came along and put one drop of ink in that glass, (a seed of doubt in one's mind) and thus the water is tainted
Matt. 5:17 to John 19:30 to Hebrews 9:15-17 to Hebrews 7:11-12
Love you and all as Christ does
[h=3]Ephesians 4:2[/h]Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
[SUP]2 [/SUP]with all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love;
Any doubt blows up the mind and works program slips in.
Christ is like a pure glass of water, and the enemy came along and put one drop of ink in that glass, (a seed of doubt in one's mind) and thus the water is tainted
Matt. 5:17 to John 19:30 to Hebrews 9:15-17 to Hebrews 7:11-12
Love you and all as Christ does
[h=3]Ephesians 4:2[/h]Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
[SUP]2 [/SUP]with all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love;
then you don't know about the various forms of giving. In this case, eternal life is a gift, given to ONLY those that fulful the obligations required to attain it. If it was a unilateral gift of God, then all men would have been granted eternal life with Christ. But God desires that we work with Him, it is the whole purpose of God creating man. Your existence can be counted as gift as well. `
It is made up of believers, whether they are true or not will be determined at the judgement. However, scripture and Paul condemns any split of the Gospel. He spoke quite strongly with those in Corinth who were trying to develop their own gospels. There are many who will be saved who have not followed what is prescribed in scripture, only because they never had the opportunity to hear the Gospel. God can save anyone who He desires, He can have mercy on whomever.
Why would the Church need to interpret scripture? It was given the Gospel, complete from the beginning. It is the purpose of the Holy Spirit to preserve that deposit within His Body, which He has done from the beginning. When false teachings have assailed that Gospel, the Church defined what they believed, apophatically, and condemned the false teaching.
It is the purpose of the Church to teach the Gospel, not interpret it. No man has ever had the authority to interpret scripture. This is why sola scriptura is an unscriptural principle and the chaos it has engendered is manifest, and getting worse.
It is the purpose of the Church to teach the Gospel, not interpret it. No man has ever had the authority to interpret scripture. This is why sola scriptura is an unscriptural principle and the chaos it has engendered is manifest, and getting worse.