What does it mean that we are saved by grace alone?

[homwardbound]

When we go to Christ we are given the Holy Spirit. At the time we accept Christ, we are cleansed of sin and the Holy Spirit resides in us. God cannot live with sin, we are cleansed of sin through grace.

If we do not turn from sin, if we accept sin as part of our being like making our being a thief, or a drunkard, etc., then we choose that instead of choosing Christ. We are cleansed of all sin, even though knowledge of sin is part of us and if we say we are sinless we are a liar, so we do the very best we can to live without sin. It is impossible, but our trying is not impossible. At the very same time, without faith in all of God and His word, including words about how to live in His light, or if we keep within us grudges against others with no forgiveness, we cannot have grace. If we won't forgive others, we can't have that for ourselves. If we don't believe God, we can't have grace.

Please how can one not forgiven if they see they are forgiven as you just said we are by Christ forgiven.
In light of this forgiven love beyond humankind measure to percieve, it is what it is, and so in response how can one not love
For one can't truly love without first seeing the Love of God in Mercy to us through Son can they?

 

[homwardbound]

Sure am glad we have the sabbath keepers to explain what Paul was trying to say. I wish God had picked better people to bring us His word. And I wish the Holy Ghost had told Paul to clarify what he was saying before it hit print.

Do you literally think it has been translated correctly from the original writing of Paul and all the others?
The word Chuirch alone is one accepted translation tha tis not the right translation Ecllesia and Church have two different meanings as for one example. So we need the word yes truth. But do you think we need God to tell us the meaning over just the reading, when their are so mnay different translations from each person?
And I see the word as in whole as one big LOVE story fromn God to us all to believe God and rest in God, entering God's courts with thanksgiving and praise, thanking God through Son it is done
John 19:30
When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, Itisfinished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.
Being in an ewCovenat today of just Love and Mercy given to give Mercy out, as one has recieved one gives, you think?

 

[homwardbound]

Salvation through Christ is not accomplished by obeying law, it is only accomplished through grace. That is done when we acknowledge God, and we go to God to lead us. So we go to Christ for cleansing, to be accepted because we have faith in God, and Christ is God.

Now that is over and done.

We are loved by the Lord, we are His child, we are part of the family of the Lord. God wants the best for His children, and the law leads the child to the best, to abundance for him. God wants that child to be part of Him, and God cannot be part of sin, so God leads his family away from sin. If the child gives his whole self over to sin, then God cannot live within that child any longer for God cannot live with sin. Christ tells us that the more we walk with Him in the kingdom, the greater we are in His kingdom.

Salvation is apart from this, salvation is through faith.

I knew you knew, Thank you Lord

 

[know1]

What does "grace alone by faith" mean? Why do we have to repent if we are saved by grace? Or is grace referred to as God giving is Jesus?

People don't have to repent, when they come to Christ, that is a church doctrine, it's not scriptural.
If you acted on Romans 10:9-10, you would be saved, just like it says.
Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Rom 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
Do you see repentance in these verses anywhere?
Repentance is for the believer, after they have already been saved, not for the lost.
What do people have to repent of, if all their sins have been washed away, by the blood of Christ at the cross, and if he blotted out the handwriting of ordinances that was against them, which was contrary to them, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross, when they believed and acted on the word of God?
Grace is unmerited favor, and it is given when we believe and receive Christ by faith in our hearts. Repentance is not a prerequisite for salvation, but faith in Christ IS.

 

[faroukfarouk]

The Lord Jesus preached: "Repent ye, and believe the Gospel' (Mark 1.15).

 

[know1]

The Lord Jesus preached: "Repent ye, and believe the Gospel' (Mark 1.15).

Exactly!!!
Notice what He is telling you to repent of. It's not of your dead works, but of your unbelief. That is what they were to repent of. To turn from there doubts and believe the gospel. That is very clear in the verse you used sir.

 

[RedTent]

The Lord Jesus preached: "Repent ye, and believe the Gospel' (Mark 1.15).

Now, we have repented, we have faith in the Lord as our salvation and creator, are we then done with the Lord? The Lord sends us His word, his laws, and the Holy Spirit to guide us now we are saved. Aren't we to listen?

 

[faroukfarouk]

Now, we have repented, we have faith in the Lord as our salvation and creator, are we then done with the Lord? The Lord sends us His word, his laws, and the Holy Spirit to guide us now we are saved. Aren't we to listen?

The believer exercised what Romans 16 calls 'the obedience of faith'; it's not a meritorious thing or a matter of legal bondage.

 

[homwardbound]

People don't have to repent, when they come to Christ, that is a church doctrine, it's not scriptural.
If you acted on Romans 10:9-10, you would be saved, just like it says.
Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Rom 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
Do you see repentance in these verses anywhere?
Repentance is for the believer, after they have already been saved, not for the lost.
What do people have to repent of, if all their sins have been washed away, by the blood of Christ at the cross, and if he blotted out the handwriting of ordinances that was against them, which was contrary to them, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross, when they believed and acted on the word of God?
Grace is unmerited favor, and it is given when we believe and receive Christ by faith in our hearts. Repentance is not a prerequisite for salvation, but faith in Christ IS.

So to be clear, true repent actually means to change from unbelief to belief right, at least that is what I see as what repent means to me, to change one's mind is this right in your view?

 

[homwardbound]

The Lord Jesus preached: "Repent ye, and believe the Gospel' (Mark 1.15).

so repent would be to beleive, it is a changing of the mind from believing in self, this world and others to belief in Christ the way the truth and the new life found in the resurrected ?Christ unto Father by Father doing this, right?

 

[homwardbound]

Now, we have repented, we have faith in the Lord as our salvation and creator, are we then done with the Lord? The Lord sends us His word, his laws, and the Holy Spirit to guide us now we are saved. Aren't we to listen?

yes listen and do, do what? Love, love who? All, or else how:
[h=3]Luke 6:32[/h]New Life Version (NLV)

[SUP]32 [/SUP]“If you love those who love you, what pay can you expect from that? Sinners also love those who love them

And so now we try to do this and can't, for there are just some that, well I know, maybe you too, so how can we do this as a commandment or can we?
Not unless we what?
1 John 4:19 We love Him because He loved us first.

Therefore my prayer is for us all to see:
[h=3]Ephesians 3:16[/h]New Life Version (NLV)

[SUP]16 [/SUP]I pray that because of the riches of His shining-greatness, He will make you strong with power in your hearts through the Holy Spirit.

[h=3]Ephesians 3:17[/h]New Life Version (NLV)

[SUP]17 [/SUP]I pray that Christ may live in your hearts by faith. I pray that you will be filled with love.

[h=3]Ephesians 3:18[/h]New Life Version (NLV)

[SUP]18 [/SUP]I pray that you will be able to understand how wide and how long and how high and how deep His love is.

 

[homwardbound]

Now, we have repented, we have faith in the Lord as our salvation and creator, are we then done with the Lord? The Lord sends us His word, his laws, and the Holy Spirit to guide us now we are saved. Aren't we to listen?

In the change of mind comes the change of attitude, in response to God's love and Mercy, by this one just loves, you think

 

[homwardbound]

Now, we have repented, we have faith in the Lord as our salvation and creator, are we then done with the Lord? The Lord sends us His word, his laws, and the Holy Spirit to guide us now we are saved. Aren't we to listen?

Now comes the discernment, do not be fooled by evil that masquerades as an angel of light and learn Father's Voice. is a vital issue today, where as evil sets itself up as a ______________________ for one to listen to and speaks Christ language to possibly fool the very elect, when in truth
1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

Any one else that gets between you and God, as in between you and Jesus is one is being deceived or have deceived themselves, as Lucifer deceived a third of the angels
So discernment important and doubt is not, doubt is the be setter, discernment is from God who lives in you, thanks to Jesus
[h=3]Hebrews 8:11[/h]Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

[SUP]11 [/SUP]and they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.

 

[mailmandan]

Ephesians 2:8 For it is by free grace (God’s unmerited favor) that you are saved (delivered from judgment and made partakers of Christ’s salvation) through [your] faith. And this [salvation] is not of yourselves [of your own doing, it came not through your own striving], but it is the gift of God; 9 Not because of works [not the fulfillment of the Law’s demands], lest any man should boast. [It is not the result of what anyone can possibly do, so no one can pride himself in it or take glory to himself.] - Amplified Bible

 

[homwardbound]

Now, we have repented, we have faith in the Lord as our salvation and creator, are we then done with the Lord? The Lord sends us His word, his laws, and the Holy Spirit to guide us now we are saved. Aren't we to listen?

The grace message was never meant to be taken for an occasion for ones flesh to sin, using Christ as their escape goat, ever.
Hebrews 2:3 how shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him;

 

[homwardbound]

Ephesians 2:8 For it is by free grace (God’s unmerited favor) that you are saved (delivered from judgment and made partakers of Christ’s salvation) through [your] faith. And this [salvation] is not of yourselves [of your own doing, it came not through your own striving], but it is the gift of God; 9 Not because of works [not the fulfillment of the Law’s demands], lest any man should boast. [It is not the result of what anyone can possibly do, so no one can pride himself in it or take glory to himself.] - Amplified Bible

Amen Brother Amen, and so we can't help but to be carrying the good news and passing this out in love to all, yeah, Thank you

 

[homwardbound]

i can see clearly now the rain has gone,yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[newbirth]

People don't have to repent, when they come to Christ, that is a church doctrine, it's not scriptural.
If you acted on Romans 10:9-10, you would be saved, just like it says.
Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Rom 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
Do you see repentance in these verses anywhere?
Repentance is for the believer, after they have already been saved, not for the lost.
What do people have to repent of, if all their sins have been washed away, by the blood of Christ at the cross, and if he blotted out the handwriting of ordinances that was against them, which was contrary to them, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross, when they believed and acted on the word of God?
Grace is unmerited favor, and it is given when we believe and receive Christ by faith in our hearts. Repentance is not a prerequisite for salvation, but faith in Christ IS.

The whole Idea of coming to Christ is because of repentance
Romans 2:4 Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance? (Believe is an action word repentance is an act of belief) So you think it is a mind thing No when we believe, we will turn from our wicked ways and serve the living God(repent) vs 10 believeth unto righteousness
[h=2]re·pent[/h] verb \ri-ˈpent\ : to feel or show that you are sorry for something bad or wrong that you did and that you want to do what is right




[h=2]Full Definition of REPENT[/h]intransitive verb
1
: to turn from sin and dedicate oneself to the amendment of one's life

2
a : to feel regret or contrition
b : to change one's mind



[h=2]righ·teous[/h] adjective \ˈrī-chəs\ : morally good : following religious or moral laws
: caused by something that you believe is not morally right or fair




[h=2]Full Definition of RIGHTEOUS[/h]1
: acting in accord with divine or moral law : free from guilt or sin

2
a : morally right or justifiable <a righteous decision>
b : arising from an outraged sense of justice or morality <righteous indignation>

 

[homwardbound]

Man couldn't do it, not one Adam himself, and anyone else afterwards, only by believing God, trusting god could anyone do it, after Adam all the way to the perfect one Christ Jesus, the only flesh person that ever walked this earth was and is God absolutely pleased in. And by him, Faith, grace, we are forgiven, are we saved in the new life from belief that is given not earned, we are saved by this alone,
John 19:30
When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, Itisfinished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.

 

[homwardbound]

He fulfilled all the Law and prophets as to his coming to redeem us and we know have:
2 Corinthians 5:18 And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;
2 Corinthians 5:19 to wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
Hebrews 2:17 Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.

Daniel 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

John 19:30
When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, Itisfinished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.