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Son in me I've taken a break to recharge before coming back here into the hornets nest!,you start out making sense then your true colors start to show do you ever really listen to yourself or even re read some of the things you post ? Disturbing. Here is a non racist fact for you to digest. How many presidents have been black before the half black one in office now?
as to the president All the ills you afore mentioned were inherited messes from years of white dominated rule by elitist and good ole boys who love money over what is right. Sterling is only a reflection of what is alive and well.
The current half black president has made some miscues surely. But not 200 hundred years worth! Sharpton I agree with some of his zeal but not his total approach. You throw out the Trayvon Martin case like he killed himself. Just saying. He sure didn't shoot himself did he? Racial slurs wow are your inflammatory remarks considered racist?
By some with thinner skin maybe idk but for seasoned well rounded veterans its just more smoke that anything else. Most of the time you are pretty on point but then you go off on these tangents that just make the hair on the back of my neck stand up.
as to the president All the ills you afore mentioned were inherited messes from years of white dominated rule by elitist and good ole boys who love money over what is right. Sterling is only a reflection of what is alive and well.
The current half black president has made some miscues surely. But not 200 hundred years worth! Sharpton I agree with some of his zeal but not his total approach. You throw out the Trayvon Martin case like he killed himself. Just saying. He sure didn't shoot himself did he? Racial slurs wow are your inflammatory remarks considered racist?
By some with thinner skin maybe idk but for seasoned well rounded veterans its just more smoke that anything else. Most of the time you are pretty on point but then you go off on these tangents that just make the hair on the back of my neck stand up.
1. I could care less about the color of our president. Unless you are talking charactor. Our president is an abysmal failure.
2. Seems those evil rich white men who have ruled before kept this nation a whole lot better than this president has. How about taking some responsibility for SIX years in office and the economy is still horrid, the direct result of terrible insane marxist policies.
( Before reading father I will comment that two times you have mentioned race as a deciding factor....that is bigotry which proves my point )
3. You are actually saying that the previous 200 years were all failures just based on the fact the people who ran the country were rich old white men??
All you are doing is proving my point even more.
Al Sharpton?? He is a whore, sorry about the language but that is all he is. A disgraceful racist poverty pimp. No sane person could in any fashion support any ideal from this person WHO USES BLACK PEOPLE TO GET RICH.
I stand on my point. The true good of this president is the exposure of unadulterated bigotry by the left. Incompetence. Selfishness.
I will say it again...liberalism is a cult.
2. Seems those evil rich white men who have ruled before kept this nation a whole lot better than this president has. How about taking some responsibility for SIX years in office and the economy is still horrid, the direct result of terrible insane marxist policies.
( Before reading father I will comment that two times you have mentioned race as a deciding factor....that is bigotry which proves my point )
3. You are actually saying that the previous 200 years were all failures just based on the fact the people who ran the country were rich old white men??
All you are doing is proving my point even more.
Al Sharpton?? He is a whore, sorry about the language but that is all he is. A disgraceful racist poverty pimp. No sane person could in any fashion support any ideal from this person WHO USES BLACK PEOPLE TO GET RICH.
I stand on my point. The true good of this president is the exposure of unadulterated bigotry by the left. Incompetence. Selfishness.
I will say it again...liberalism is a cult.
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1-Obviously you do care about his color and to not acknowledge it is my point! I guess the statement about Trayvon being a hero to black people you forgot! Abysmal failure by who's standards yours? Asinine in concept to say the least. That is an elitist mentality speaking.
2- I do agree there are several things the President could have done much differently as has been the case with all Presidents in our lifetime don't you think. The evil white men kept the country in bondage to the lies they continued for hundreds of years that is just a fact . Men lie facts are just facts. The economy is in bad shape because of another of the former white Presidents policies. Again fact. The nation was so out of control six years wont fix it. Again I agree several things fell by the way side and yet we are still groaning blaming this president? Before I point out the fact that it was you who pointed out race as a factor with your statement on martin and other past statements. So I stand by mine as well.
I'm mature enough not to let a bigoted statement shake me because at the end of it the one screaming bigoted statements fails to see the beam in his own eye.
3- No I state the fact is just that the state of our nation has always been in the hands of old rich white men. And it is what it is. No all the years were not failures I'm not naïve but the vast majority were that is just a fact.
Proving you point? What is your point? You can say what you want any way you want and call someone bigoted when they question your methodology! Ok then I get your point. Don't agree with it but get it.
I do not agree with Als methods I said that very clearly but he's no more of a media whore than Kim Kardashian or Donald Trump So as not to be labeled bigoted I'll add Magic Johnson (We know how you feel about him) or Mike Tyson all media whores by any account. I will say it again also you have no tact at times, no respect at others and have to get you are not the only person with a voice or opinion. And for the record I gave you several kind words amidst my bigoted remarks! Pun intended!!
2- I do agree there are several things the President could have done much differently as has been the case with all Presidents in our lifetime don't you think. The evil white men kept the country in bondage to the lies they continued for hundreds of years that is just a fact . Men lie facts are just facts. The economy is in bad shape because of another of the former white Presidents policies. Again fact. The nation was so out of control six years wont fix it. Again I agree several things fell by the way side and yet we are still groaning blaming this president? Before I point out the fact that it was you who pointed out race as a factor with your statement on martin and other past statements. So I stand by mine as well.
I'm mature enough not to let a bigoted statement shake me because at the end of it the one screaming bigoted statements fails to see the beam in his own eye.
3- No I state the fact is just that the state of our nation has always been in the hands of old rich white men. And it is what it is. No all the years were not failures I'm not naïve but the vast majority were that is just a fact.
Proving you point? What is your point? You can say what you want any way you want and call someone bigoted when they question your methodology! Ok then I get your point. Don't agree with it but get it.
I do not agree with Als methods I said that very clearly but he's no more of a media whore than Kim Kardashian or Donald Trump So as not to be labeled bigoted I'll add Magic Johnson (We know how you feel about him) or Mike Tyson all media whores by any account. I will say it again also you have no tact at times, no respect at others and have to get you are not the only person with a voice or opinion. And for the record I gave you several kind words amidst my bigoted remarks! Pun intended!!
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In the threads you have posted to starting with post #14,59,65,81,83 you started in on race , racist president, black this or that all your own words un prompted by any other, you even threw in a few thoughts on your favorite word bigot, or bigoted on a regular basis. I will say its hard for a zebra to change his stripes we all see where you are coming from you are the only one who doesn't! And I do respect your position just don't always agree with it.
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Trayvon Martin was a thug, no hero.
Our president is a bigot.
Black people can be racist.
This thread is about racism manifested in a taped conversation/arguement between a married man and his gf. To discuss race here seems to be what the thread is about but I do not make bigoted statements like evil white men destroying this country until the great Obama comes and does what?
Destroys it more than all other presidents have before them.
Look at the debt numbers....9-10 trillion before Obama, 17 trillion after, almost doubled what it took 200+ years to accumulate.
Ya gotta stop blaming white people for african american problems. Maybe they should stop voting for liberals, who by the way are the worst racists imaginable. Funny how that works.
Copy and paste all racist remarks I have made....just a fyi, disagreeing with a secualr marxist president who happens to call himself black is not racism.
Its called wisdom
Our president is a bigot.
Black people can be racist.
This thread is about racism manifested in a taped conversation/arguement between a married man and his gf. To discuss race here seems to be what the thread is about but I do not make bigoted statements like evil white men destroying this country until the great Obama comes and does what?
Destroys it more than all other presidents have before them.
Look at the debt numbers....9-10 trillion before Obama, 17 trillion after, almost doubled what it took 200+ years to accumulate.
Ya gotta stop blaming white people for african american problems. Maybe they should stop voting for liberals, who by the way are the worst racists imaginable. Funny how that works.
Copy and paste all racist remarks I have made....just a fyi, disagreeing with a secualr marxist president who happens to call himself black is not racism.
Its called wisdom
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Son in me your racisim is showing! You throw stones then hide your hand.evil white men as a remark is a fact you can deny. All you want. Who else is it to blame for our current problems one half nlack man or 43 white men. Race is an issue but must be discussed intelligently not ran from.you look through the eyes of a white man i dont.we see what we see!
Manifedted racisim comes in many forms we all have some thats just a fact! I dont agree with all you say and that ok but i learned as a soldiet respect is earned or lost by what or how we respond to any situation.you brother are cold calculated and strong great qualities but you are not always right.your opinion matters to you not so much to others some think youre bigoted or arrogant been there too.im just saying loud voices are heard just like wispering voices.
Manifedted racisim comes in many forms we all have some thats just a fact! I dont agree with all you say and that ok but i learned as a soldiet respect is earned or lost by what or how we respond to any situation.you brother are cold calculated and strong great qualities but you are not always right.your opinion matters to you not so much to others some think youre bigoted or arrogant been there too.im just saying loud voices are heard just like wispering voices.
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All facts we already knew eccept that stealing land from indigenous people enslaving others is part of american history i know which side youre on. Ok that aside my love for you means i tell you truth even if you dont like it.race will alwsys be an issue always.how we address it determines our future.so we agree and disagree thats.cool.
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Race is an issue only to those who want to make it an issue for profit or for their 15 minutes of fame. Race baiters are tools of the establishment for the purpose of enslavement of us all.
As an aside, I grew up on an Indian reservation and I have many Indian friends...(yes, I was very intentional in using the word "Indian"). I literally do not have a single solitary Indian friend who is or feels insulted by the Redskins. Racism is a left wing socialist construct designed for the destruction of American principles and ideals.
As an aside, I grew up on an Indian reservation and I have many Indian friends...(yes, I was very intentional in using the word "Indian"). I literally do not have a single solitary Indian friend who is or feels insulted by the Redskins. Racism is a left wing socialist construct designed for the destruction of American principles and ideals.
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To be accurate, indigenous people were enslaving each other long before Europeans arrived in any number.
For example, the warrior Aztecs/Mexicas (for whom Mexico named itself upon gaining their independence from Spain) buried each male child's umbilical cord as a pledge they would live the life of a warrior dedicated to murdering and enslaving other tribes were the dominant pre-Columbian indigenous people dominating northern Mexico at the time of the Spanish conquest led by Hernan Cortes in the early 16th century.
As Inga Clendinnen states in 'Aztecs' published by Cambridge University Press in 1995:
"There is one activity for which the 'Aztecs' were notorious: the large-scale killing of humans [slaves] in ritual sacrifices. The killings were not remote top-of-the pyramid affairs. If only high priests and rulers killed, [but] they [the Aztecs] carried out most of their butchers' work en plein air, and not only in the main temple precinct, but in the neighborhood temples and on the streets.
The people were implicated in the care and preparation of the victims, their delivery to the place of death, and then in the elaborate processing of the bodies: the dismemberment and distribution of heads and limbs, flesh and blood, and flayed skins.
On high occasions warriors carrying gourds of human blood or wearing the dripping skins of their captives ran through the streets, to be ceremoniously welcomed into the dwellings; the flesh of their victims seethed in domestic cooking pots; human thighbones, scraped and dried, were set up in the courtyards of the households and all this among a people notable for a precisely ordered polity, a grave formality of manner, and a developed regard for beauty."
W. H. Prescott wrote in the eighteen forties, in his widely read history of the conquest of Mexico, the flesh of Aztec human [slave] victims was "presented not as 'the coarse repast of famished cannibals, but as a banquet teeming with delicious beverages and delicate viands, prepared with art, and attended by both sexes, who... conducted themselves with all the decorum of civilized life. Surely, never were refinement and the extreme of barbarism brought so closely into contact with each other!"
One can certainly surmise what the result would of have been if the Aztecs had developed firearms and nautical travel faster than the Europeans. A European holocaust would have resulted. But then, Europe did experience widespread slaving in Europe with the Islamic invasion in which the Muslims engaged in widespread slaving which is not surprising as the practice of enslavement of humans is justified in Islam and the false religious cult's founder Mohammad was a slave owner himself.
That latter point always mystified me as to why African Americans adopt Islam. After all, it's a false religious cult that justifies human slavery. While Christian theologians were able to work their way around the biblical acceptance of slavery, they probably could not have done so had Jesus kept slaves. In Islam, the fundamental morality of the institution of slavery was never in doubt. That Muhammad had owned slaves presented Muslim theologians with a fact that no intellectual maneuvering could overcome, even had they desired to do so.
Only the ejection of Muslims from Europe, beginning with Martel's victory at the Battle of Tours, finally brought an end to slaving in Europe though it continued unabated, of course, in the vast Moslem world. The end of Islamic slaving (although it still continues on a minor scale) was the direct result of abolition in the West. It was primarily the British navy that embargoed the Muslim slave ships, and British and French colonial troops who intercepted countless slave caravans in Africa, freeing the slaves and sometimes executing the slave-traders on the spot. The very recent abolition of slavery in some Islamic nations was undertaken entirely in response to intense Western pressure.
For example, Saudi Arabia and Yemen didn't finally outlaw human slavery until 1962 and that was entirely a response to intense Western pressure.
Slavery did not die of its own inefficiency, and emancipation was not a capitalist ploy. As Robert William Fogel put it so well, the death of slavery was "a political execution of an immoral system at its peak of economic success, incited by [people] ablaze with moral fervor... the potent capacity of monotheism, and especially Christianity."
^ And THAT would have never happened in the pagan Americas. Do you think the Aztecs would have stopped enslaving and committing sweeping pagan ritualized generational genocide without the introduction of Christianity into the Americas? No. It's what they had been doing for millennia.
For example, the warrior Aztecs/Mexicas (for whom Mexico named itself upon gaining their independence from Spain) buried each male child's umbilical cord as a pledge they would live the life of a warrior dedicated to murdering and enslaving other tribes were the dominant pre-Columbian indigenous people dominating northern Mexico at the time of the Spanish conquest led by Hernan Cortes in the early 16th century.
As Inga Clendinnen states in 'Aztecs' published by Cambridge University Press in 1995:
"There is one activity for which the 'Aztecs' were notorious: the large-scale killing of humans [slaves] in ritual sacrifices. The killings were not remote top-of-the pyramid affairs. If only high priests and rulers killed, [but] they [the Aztecs] carried out most of their butchers' work en plein air, and not only in the main temple precinct, but in the neighborhood temples and on the streets.
The people were implicated in the care and preparation of the victims, their delivery to the place of death, and then in the elaborate processing of the bodies: the dismemberment and distribution of heads and limbs, flesh and blood, and flayed skins.
On high occasions warriors carrying gourds of human blood or wearing the dripping skins of their captives ran through the streets, to be ceremoniously welcomed into the dwellings; the flesh of their victims seethed in domestic cooking pots; human thighbones, scraped and dried, were set up in the courtyards of the households and all this among a people notable for a precisely ordered polity, a grave formality of manner, and a developed regard for beauty."
W. H. Prescott wrote in the eighteen forties, in his widely read history of the conquest of Mexico, the flesh of Aztec human [slave] victims was "presented not as 'the coarse repast of famished cannibals, but as a banquet teeming with delicious beverages and delicate viands, prepared with art, and attended by both sexes, who... conducted themselves with all the decorum of civilized life. Surely, never were refinement and the extreme of barbarism brought so closely into contact with each other!"
One can certainly surmise what the result would of have been if the Aztecs had developed firearms and nautical travel faster than the Europeans. A European holocaust would have resulted. But then, Europe did experience widespread slaving in Europe with the Islamic invasion in which the Muslims engaged in widespread slaving which is not surprising as the practice of enslavement of humans is justified in Islam and the false religious cult's founder Mohammad was a slave owner himself.
That latter point always mystified me as to why African Americans adopt Islam. After all, it's a false religious cult that justifies human slavery. While Christian theologians were able to work their way around the biblical acceptance of slavery, they probably could not have done so had Jesus kept slaves. In Islam, the fundamental morality of the institution of slavery was never in doubt. That Muhammad had owned slaves presented Muslim theologians with a fact that no intellectual maneuvering could overcome, even had they desired to do so.
Only the ejection of Muslims from Europe, beginning with Martel's victory at the Battle of Tours, finally brought an end to slaving in Europe though it continued unabated, of course, in the vast Moslem world. The end of Islamic slaving (although it still continues on a minor scale) was the direct result of abolition in the West. It was primarily the British navy that embargoed the Muslim slave ships, and British and French colonial troops who intercepted countless slave caravans in Africa, freeing the slaves and sometimes executing the slave-traders on the spot. The very recent abolition of slavery in some Islamic nations was undertaken entirely in response to intense Western pressure.
For example, Saudi Arabia and Yemen didn't finally outlaw human slavery until 1962 and that was entirely a response to intense Western pressure.
Slavery did not die of its own inefficiency, and emancipation was not a capitalist ploy. As Robert William Fogel put it so well, the death of slavery was "a political execution of an immoral system at its peak of economic success, incited by [people] ablaze with moral fervor... the potent capacity of monotheism, and especially Christianity."
^ And THAT would have never happened in the pagan Americas. Do you think the Aztecs would have stopped enslaving and committing sweeping pagan ritualized generational genocide without the introduction of Christianity into the Americas? No. It's what they had been doing for millennia.
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You may want to take a course in U.S History, economics & finance. I have a college major & minor degree in all three. Sorry, African-Americans can't be racists in a country that is controlled by whites. They can be bigots, prejudice & etc, by definition. Blacks who control their country (Rhodesia) can be racist toward whites but it doesn't apply here in America.