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Trayvon Martin was a thug, no hero.

Our president is a bigot.

Black people can be racist.


"And why beholdest thou the mote that is in your brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Or how wilt thou say to thy brother; Let me pull the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast the mote out of thy brother's eye." (Matthew 7:3-5)
 
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Malarkey. You need more classes. Read the Oxford dictionary and you'll see that an alternate definition of racism is, "prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one’s own race is superior."

You are falsely asserting that if a particular race doesn't hold the reigns of political power in a country, it is impossible for them to be racist. That's nonsense.

They certainly can be racist in any manner they find the power to be racist whether that be a racist person bullying a weaker person of another race (such as the knock out game racist attacks on vulnerable whites and Jews in the U.S. today by African Americans) or in the form of discrimination in areas they exercise societal control (such as many predominately black urban areas) as news story after news story evidences that they, in fact, are.


You may want to take a course in U.S History, economics & finance. I have a college major & minor degree in all three. Sorry, African-Americans can't be racists in a country that is controlled by whites. They can be bigots, prejudice & etc, by definition. Blacks who control their country (Rhodesia) can be racist toward whites but it doesn't apply here in America.
 
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Christians are often accused of "judging" whenever they speak out against a sinful activity. However, that is not the meaning of the Scripture verses that state, "Do not judge." There is a righteous kind of judgment we are supposed to exercise with careful discernment (John 7:24). When Jesus told us not to judge (Matthew 7:1), He was telling us not to judge hypocritically (Matthew 7:2-5).

If a believer sees another believer sinning, it is his Christian duty to lovingly and respectfully confront the person with his sin (Matthew 18:15-17) toward the goal of of bringing repentance in the other person (James 5:20) and restoration. We are to speak the truth in love (Ephesians 4:15), of course.

Teachers need to speak against sin. 2 Timothy 4:2 instructs us, "preach the Word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage with great patience and careful instruction."

Revelation 2:2 "I know your works, your toil and your patient endurance, and how you cannot bear with those who are evil, but have tested those who call themselves apostles and are not, and found them to be false."

Galatians 2:11 "But when Cephas came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face, because he stood condemned."

1 Corinthians 5:1-13 "It is actually reported that there is sexual immorality among you, and of a kind that is not tolerated even among pagans, for a man has his father's wife. And you are arrogant! Ought you not rather to mourn? Let him who has done this be removed from among you. For though absent in body, I am present in spirit; and as if present, I have already pronounced judgment on the one who did such a thing. When you are assembled in the name of the Lord Jesus and my spirit is present, with the power of our Lord Jesus, you are to deliver this man to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, so that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord."

Matthew 7: 21-23 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’

Psalm 37:30 "The mouth of the righteous speaketh wisdom, and his tongue talketh of judgment."

Amos 5:14-15 "Seek good, and not evil, that ye may live: and so the LORD, the God of hosts, shall be with you, as ye have spoken. Hate the evil, and love the good, and establish judgment in the gate: it may be that the LORD God of hosts will be gracious unto the remnant of Joseph."

Isaiah 59:8: "The way of peace they know not; and there is no judgment in their goings: they have made them crooked paths: whosoever goeth therein shall not know peace."

I Corinthians 1:10 "...be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment."
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"And why beholdest thou the mote that is in your brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Or how wilt thou say to thy brother; Let me pull the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast the mote out of thy brother's eye." (Matthew 7:3-5)
 
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Malarkey. You need more classes. Read the Oxford dictionary and you'll see that an alternate definition of racism is, "prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one’s own race is superior."

You are falsely asserting that if a particular race doesn't hold the reigns of political power in a country, it is impossible for them to be racist. That's nonsense.

They certainly can be racist in any manner they find the power to be racist whether that be a racist person bullying a weaker person of another race (such as the knock out game racist attacks on vulnerable whites and Jews in the U.S. today by African Americans) or in the form of discrimination in areas they exercise societal control (such as many predominately black urban areas) as news story after news story evidences that they, in fact, are.
It is those who don't have a clue as to what true racism means who will impose their twisted definition(s). However, the media does because it uses the correct definition of the word racism often if the reporter understands the true definition. Just because new generations of whites use the word incorrectly & sporadically mean it is properly used. I am using "racism" in the sociological view accepted by the status quo and just about every major university sociology program in the country. If you took a courses in "sociology" then you need a refresher course. I am sure use the definition of marriage will change over the course of time but it will always be between a man & a woman. The word "racism" isn't any different and the true definition will always be prevalent as the majority over the minority unless it misused.
 
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What you're doing is falsely asserting that the primary epistemology of sociology with respect to racism (e.g. racial and ethnic stratification protecting the privilege of the dominant group, for example) myopically negates all other applications and uses. That is not true. My assertions and usage are both legimate in the context I employed.

The secular sociology textbook in front of me asserts, "discrimination is differential or special treatment of a particular group or group members on the basis of perceived physical, behavioral, and/or belief differences." The Christian sociology textbook states, "It's obvious that racial prejudice/discrimination is a great sin shared not only by individuals but also by ethnic groups and societies as a whole."

Nowhere in any scholarly textbook does it say that it is impossible for a minority group to discriminate against an individual belonging to another ethnic group or other ethnic group in a racist manner because they [themselves] are a minority group.

Obviously, they can and it's observable that they sometimes do.


It is those who don't have a clue as to what true racism means who will impose their twisted definition(s). However, the media does because it uses the correct definition of the word racism often if the reporter understands the true definition. Just because new generations of whites use the word incorrectly & sporadically mean it is properly used. I am using "racism" in the sociological view accepted by the status quo and just about every major university sociology program in the country. If you took a courses in "sociology" then you need a refresher course. I am sure use the definition of marriage will change over the course of time but it will always be between a man & a woman. The word "racism" isn't any different and the true definition will always be prevalent as the majority over the minority unless it misused.
 
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Hopefully he didn't murder the baby when he punched her to the floor as she was pregnant:

[video=youtube_share;EovKdpCF-JQ]http://youtu.be/EovKdpCF-JQ[/video]
 
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What you're doing is falsely asserting that the primary epistemology of sociology with respect to racism (e.g. racial and ethnic stratification protecting the privilege of the dominant group, for example) myopically negates all other applications and uses. That is not true. My assertions and usage are both legimate in the context I employed.

The secular sociology textbook in front of me asserts, "discrimination is differential or special treatment of a particular group or group members on the basis of perceived physical, behavioral, and/or belief differences." The Christian sociology textbook states, "It's obvious that racial prejudice/discrimination is a great sin shared not only by individuals but also by ethnic groups and societies as a whole."

Nowhere in any scholarly textbook does it say that it is impossible for a minority group to discriminate against an individual belonging to another ethnic group or other ethnic group in a racist manner because they [themselves] are a minority group.

Obviously, they can and it's observable that they sometimes do.

P.S - If I were you I wouldn't use your 'twisted" definition of racism because I would be run out of Dodge in relation to the criminal justice system or any form of justice based in this country, especially on the federal level. The definition of racism in the sociological text is basically universal like the definition of marriage [between man & woman]. Philosophical view of racism is what you are using and it wouldn't stand in any court system in this country or the free world. Have a good night.
 
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AgeOfKnowledge, please tell me why there is a double standard when racism is practiced (your definition) by minority members against whites, and yet the overwhelming majority of them get away with the behavior or receive a soft slap on the wrist??? A few instances where Blacks were fired or suspended because of attacks on gays and not necessarily because they were white. I give you a hint .... it is in the true definition which is used universally. LOL!! Pleasant dreams:)
 
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Trayvon Martin was a thug, no hero.

Our president is a bigot.

Black people can be racist.


"And why beholdest thou the mote that is in your brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Or how wilt thou say to thy brother; Let me pull the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast the mote out of thy brother's eye." (Matthew 7:3-5)
I said nothing untrue.

All have been public interests and debated publically so I did not expose a private conversation nor gossip.

Is your scripture an accusation that I am a racist? Again, show me any racist statements I have made.
 
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All facts we already knew eccept that stealing land from indigenous people enslaving others is part of american history i know which side youre on. Ok that aside my love for you means i tell you truth even if you dont like it.race will alwsys be an issue always.how we address it determines our future.so we agree and disagree thats.cool.
Just a fyi its not an american thing....its a world thing, all nations were built upon conquest, every single one of them
 
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You may want to take a course in U.S History, economics & finance. I have a college major & minor degree in all three. Sorry, African-Americans can't be racists in a country that is controlled by whites. They can be bigots, prejudice & etc, by definition. Blacks who control their country (Rhodesia) can be racist toward whites but it doesn't apply here in America.
Study the actions of our president.

While you are correct to some extent in america, and the clinical defintion of racism, certainly all manner of brown pigmented humans have exhibited the classical definition of racism in the world's history.

...and I did not take any history courses at some pay per lesson place of business.
 
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Oh I completely agree that one can not get a federal court to issue a class ruling favorable to the white victims of racist black violence. I never even argued that it should be attempted or that they would or that the video I posted was racism (looks like a robbery to me). That's your myopia. You seem to be under the impression that unless one can get a federal court in the present politically correct liberally dominated political environment to issue a class action ruling on the basis of racism that racism has no other application in our world today.

Though I wonder, if the liberal media hadn't hushed up the racially motivated Zebra murders carried out in San Francisco by the NOI "death angels" if at least a nod couldn't have been procured. But then in your maligned view, those were racist either. LOL!

And that's false. They certainly were. Racism has a range of interpretation, usage, and application including what I've already provided you. You can stay in denial if you like. Your choice. Good luck with that.


P.S - If I were you I wouldn't use your 'twisted" definition of racism because I would be run out of Dodge in relation to the criminal justice system or any form of justice based in this country, especially on the federal level. The definition of racism in the sociological text is basically universal like the definition of marriage [between man & woman]. Philosophical view of racism is what you are using and it wouldn't stand in any court system in this country or the free world. Have a good night.
 
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Typo: those were racist either = those were NOT racist either
 
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you said all that mumbo jumbo to say what really?
 
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As much as I would not hold up Trayvon Martin as some racial hero, I would not hold up Donald Sterling as a victim.

The victimhood ideology of liberalism has instilled a hatred in african americans. That hatred is bigotry. Fostered by the poverty pimps Jackson and Sharpton, excused by our president in executive orders on school disciplinary actions and goes on without any scrutiny from the left biased media systems of this country.

It is now socially acceptable to be a bigot, if you are black. Its ok, evil white men ran this country so black people can now be bigoted because they finally got a piece of that pie. We have a black president so now black people are in charge, so lets get our's?

right?

wrong.

I know you won't believe this but there is no evil rich white guy conspiracy keeping black people down.

70% illegitimacy rates do that.

If there is anything this presidency has done is, it should prove that a black person can accomplish anything inn this country!! Not that racism exists to the point in this country that blacks cannot get a fair shake. The facts of the last two elections just prove that...

let alone all the black ceo's, doctors, professionals and many other jobs of leadership, responsibility and ability out there that black people have now.

It is absolutely ridiculous to suggest racism against black people or any minority is one, rampant and two without recourse. There are enough laws on the books now. We do not need another set of hate crime legislations and above all else....

we do not need to artificially create another minority to be protected, i.e., the homosexual populace.
 
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Soninme,
As I stated before I agree with some of your more valid points but it is ludacris to think that a half black president has no white gene in him! Point one.

Point two you try to sugar coat the facts of race as not being an issue when in fact it is. True recourse stars with doing what you did admit that you are a racist or that you have racist tendencies as we all do it will never negate the fact that we are still oppressed by dumb laws still on the books to keep us oppressed. illegitimacy rate at 70% you quote like black men are not locked up at a higher rate for the same crimes as white men or other races.

Get your head out of the sand and open your eyes we can dialogue all day on race and never gain ground as long as no one sees what is really going on.
Sometimes we just don't get the plight of others that is a fact. We sprout all sorts of crap and pseudograbage to make us feel better when in fact we are often clueless to the real goings on. Point three this presidency has done several things and open the eyes to white America is one of them. Some are still kicking and blaming this president for all the country's ills how foolish is that. Social acceptable to be a bigot? That is asinine. I guess its socially acceptable to be a evil whit man they do still exist you know as do racist!
Lastly I do agree with several of the policies of our president and I do not agree with others but I don't make it my platform to speak against him or dare call him a bigot, but I feel real good about calling evil white men evil white men or evil black men evil black me evil for that matter if race is the hidden agenda then speak on it with a degree of empathy if nothing else because we are educated now and have access now and fewer excuses but the field is still not level.