Piercings and Tattoos?

[Kathleen]

lil girl.... ohhhhhhhhh....
ok... im going to pray for you!!
because you are judging me and since your so hollier then thou then you would know that God tells us not to do that....
but its whateva.... you are young and have have alot to learn about it life and in your spiritual walk so i'll spear you...
but i will tell you this.... God will be as hard on you as you are on others... soooooo be careful...
and btw.... my pic is fly and it shows that i have a personality....

Firstly...lil girl
Well if i was 50 u would not be saying that to me. All you see is my physical age. I have been saved since i was like 3/4 (since i can rember) You have been saved 2 years, i can see from yourveiws that you are still entering into true chrisitnaity and obviously are still used to whatever worldly veiws u have had in your past.

Secindly: im going to pray for you
thank you very much for praying for me, i hope you r praying for the right reasons. I have the Holy Spirit to Guide me on my daily works.

Thirdly: You are judgeing me
I am judging you?! what?! and i reading this right, are you being serious?!
Was it not you that about 1 or 2 days ago branded me foolish.
Well excuse me! hypocrite comming through!


fourthly: God will come down hard on me
Yes and so i deserve, God has sent his only begotten son to die for me, i dont deserve that, i have had my fair share of sins in my life. And God has every right to come down hard on me.

lastly:my pic is fly and shows i have personallity
You are wrong actually your picture is not 'fly'. And it does show your personality and how ungodly it actually is. God watches your every move, just rember this. Ask your self this question:
Is that picture one you would really show to the Almighty Lord Jesus Christ our Saviour....No!
if it is not suitable for him, y would it be suitable for us.

 

[sweetheart728]

if you were 50 you would not resond to people how you do!!!!
enough said...
and your right i did call you foolish and apologized...
im not going to keep going back and forth with you....
i'll agree to disagree and be done with it!

 

[Kathleen]

if you were 50 you would not resond to people how you do!!!!
enough said...
and your right i did call you foolish and apologized...
im not going to keep going back and forth with you....
i'll agree to disagree and be done with it!

what makes u think if i were 50 i would not repond like this - my parents are older than 50 and they react just the same, on this forum site. So wrong.
you obv no if u r ngoing back and forth , u would be fighting a losing battle. - so congrats for realising that.
i still disagree but u can agree wih me if u want.

 

[biggentleben]

Kathleen...regardless of agreeing or disagreeing with your views on this particular topic, I truly pray that you come to a more loving manner in your life, because right now, I would not want you part of any mission trip I put together because of your abrasiveness. Love others to Christ by understanding where they are and discussing their views with them rather than berate them simply for having an opposing viewpoint.

 

[Kathleen]

Kathleen...I truly pray that you come to a more loving manner in your life, because right now, I would not want you part of any mission trip I put together because of your abrasiveness. Love others to Christ by understanding where they are and discussing their views with them rather than berate them simply for having an opposing viewpoint.

Perhaps i dont come accross loving - its kinda hard to express emotions on a computer.
I do love others.
I do understand where there veiws are comming from.
you do not seem , in my opinion, to have read the whole thread.
i am condemming the sin and not the sinner.

 

[biggentleben]

I read the entire thread. This is not the first time in the thread someone has posted exactly what I just did to you, yet you continue the exact same stuff. You've condemned many sinners in this thread that you know no more than their posts here. Leave the judgment to the Heavenly Father.

 

[Kathleen]

I read the entire thread. This is not the first time in the thread someone has posted exactly what I just did to you, yet you continue the exact same stuff. You've condemned many sinners in this thread that you know no more than their posts here. Leave the judgment to the Heavenly Father.

can u quote me exaclty where i have condemmed many sinners please.

i was merely tryong to help them

i mean take sweetheart for example:

she is giving the fingers as her avatar, i was just trying to her her it was ungodly. and yet i am the judgemental one, while she calls me foolish.. some people on here r just not fiar or just serioously not cool.

 

[Cako53]

Alright, well Kathleen, I am honestly finding it pointless to answer back on your post. It is the same thing over and over, there is no point. I also don't find it necessary to comment back because of what you have said. I find it very hard to believe that you are acting in a loving Christian manner, it honestly shocked me. I feel very bad for your parents if they post the same as you, it is deffinatly not lovingly that is for sure. I am tired of people judging people on here. This is supposed to be a good christian atmosphere and it is just as bad as any other site, it is honestly sickening that you are now comparing how long you have been saved to someone else. Who cares? We are all in this for the same reason. I will be praying for you, that you will not be so hostile towards anyone who has different beliefs. This is what turns people away from christianity. No one wants to be eaten out day and night. Your posts aren't even making much sense any more. So I am done arguing as to whether piercings are wrong or right. I have seen nothing to say they are wrong, and just because they don't glorify God, doesn't mean they go against God. God Bless you.

 

[Cako53]

can u quote me exaclty where i have condemmed many sinners please.

i was merely tryong to help them

i mean take sweetheart for example:

she is giving the fingers as her avatar, i was just trying to her her it was ungodly. and yet i am the judgemental one, while she calls me foolish.. some people on here r just not fiar or just serioously not cool.

It looks like a peace sign not the finger.

 

[Kathleen]

Alright, well Kathleen, I am honestly finding it pointless to answer back on your post. It is the same thing over and over, there is no point. I also don't find it necessary to comment back because of what you have said. I find it very hard to believe that you are acting in a loving Christian manner, it honestly shocked me. I feel very bad for your parents if they post the same as you, it is deffinatly not lovingly that is for sure. I am tired of people judging people on here. This is supposed to be a good christian atmosphere and it is just as bad as any other site, it is honestly sickening that you are now comparing how long you have been saved to someone else. Who cares? We are all in this for the same reason. I will be praying for you, that you will not be so hostile towards anyone who has different beliefs. This is what turns people away from christianity. No one wants to be eaten out day and night. Your posts aren't even making much sense any more. So I am done arguing as to whether piercings are wrong or right. I have seen nothing to say they are wrong, and just because they don't glorify God, doesn't mean they go against God. God Bless you.

well it means i must have finally got through to u, if u r finding no point in replying. dont feel bad for my parents, they are perfectly well, healthy human beings with the Holy Spirit guiding them. I was only saying i was saved longer than her becausei she is useing the age diffrence to say i am basically a child. What i was saying is i am spiritually older than her.
My posts are making sense.
its good ur done argueing.
you sent me a pm caleb, saying that you i am saying they r not instictavily right. therefore they must be wrong. Sin is black and white, there are no grey areas.
God Bless You
and i am sorry u feel the way you do
May the holy spirit guide you in the matter

 

[Kathleen]

It looks like a peace sign not the finger.

its not the peace sign , its the fingers.
the peace sign u would not see the finger nails. Where as on her picture he is not showing the palm of the palm. She is showing the back of the hand. Also you will se sweetheart never denied that it was the fingers.

 

[biggentleben]

well it means i must have finally got through to u, if u r finding no point in replying. dont feel bad for my parents, they are perfectly well, healthy human beings with the Holy Spirit guiding them. I was only saying i was saved longer than her becausei she is useing the age diffrence to say i am basically a child. What i was saying is i am spiritually older than her.
My posts are making sense.
its good ur done argueing.
you sent me a pm caleb, saying that you i am saying they r not instictavily right. therefore they must be wrong. Sin is black and white, there are no grey areas.
God Bless You
and i am sorry u feel the way you do
May the holy spirit guide you in the matter

right there....that is not a loving response...

Whether you think so or not, you are being VERY condescending to anyone you respond to in this thread, even the ones who agree with your viewpoints. Also, bringing out a PM in public forum is VERY disrespectful to the person who intended to have a private discussion with you. The entire post quoted is talking down to Caleb. If you don't see that, you won't see why you are being unloving.

 

[biggentleben]

its not the peace sign , its the fingers.
the peace sign u would not see the finger nails. Where as on her picture he is not showing the palm of the palm. She is showing the back of the hand. Also you will se sweetheart never denied that it was the fingers.

um...your culture may be different, but two fingers, front or back, is the peace sign here....

 

[Kathleen]

um...your culture may be different, but two fingers, front or back, is the peace sign here....

thats not true. i know lots of americans and if you hold up 2 fingers showing your fingernails and kuckles half of ur hand, then its the fingers (called V's) coz they look like a V

a peace sign is where u show the under side of ur hand, the side of the palm

this picture is a peace sign, the other way around is the fingers

 

[Cako53]

well it means i must have finally got through to u, if u r finding no point in replying. dont feel bad for my parents, they are perfectly well, healthy human beings with the Holy Spirit guiding them. I was only saying i was saved longer than her becausei she is useing the age diffrence to say i am basically a child. What i was saying is i am spiritually older than her.
My posts are making sense.
its good ur done argueing.
you sent me a pm caleb, saying that you i am saying they r not instictavily right. therefore they must be wrong. Sin is black and white, there are no grey areas.
God Bless You
and i am sorry u feel the way you do
May the holy spirit guide you in the matter

It means quite the contrary actually. It means I am sick and tired of you constantly thinking you are so "right" when you won't even stop to see the other side. You are so determined to get your points across you don't care how you treat people, as long as you can get your point across. Interenet debates are absoloutly pointless! Even if you win you still look like an idiot. I am still positive that piercings aren't unGodly, but talking to you is like talking to a brick wall, nothing is heard. So, I find it pointless, that is why I wont respond anymore. I love how you are taking serious comments and trying to turn them into jokes. I am quite serious about your parents. It doesn't matter where we are at in a spiritual journey, we are all supposed to be up lifting people, you are not. Your posts are not making sense Kathleen, this is where what I was saying earlier comes in. You are so set on the fact that you have to be "right" that you simply aren't making sense anymore. Now here is where I can't figure out what you are trying to say. "saying that you i am saying they r not instictavily right. therefore they must be wrong."??? Oh don't feel sorry for me, there is no need to.

 

[Kathleen]

right there....that is not a loving response...

Whether you think so or not, you are being VERY condescending to anyone you respond to in this thread, even the ones who agree with your viewpoints. Also, bringing out a PM in public forum is VERY disrespectful to the person who intended to have a private discussion with you. The entire post quoted is talking down to Caleb. If you don't see that, you won't see why you are being unloving.

what i said in my post to caleb was all truth.
how exaclty was i talking down to caleb?
caleb never intended to keep it private. He pm 'd me nd said something then he basically wrote what was on the pm on this thread, so we started debating htis topic here, on this thread

 

[biggentleben]

thats not true. i know lots of americans and if you hold up 2 fingers showing your fingernails and kuckles half of ur hand, then its the fingers (called V's) coz they look like a V

a peace sign is where u show the under side of ur hand, the side of the palm

this picture is a peace sign, the other way around is the fingers

wth is "the fingers"?! lol

I know of "the finger", singular, one, not two.

You can know all the Americans you want, but I have lived here my entire life (twice your life length), and I know that either way is considered "peace" in modern American society.

 

[Cako53]

thats not true. i know lots of americans and if you hold up 2 fingers showing your fingernails and kuckles half of ur hand, then its the fingers (called V's) coz they look like a V

a peace sign is where u show the under side of ur hand, the side of the palm

this picture is a peace sign, the other way around is the fingers

AGAIN!!! You are so convinced you are right, you wont see the other side of it. Around here that is a peace sign. You are from a totally different area. You need to take a look at the whole picture before you start attacking people.

 

[biggentleben]

what i said in my post to caleb was all truth.
how exaclty was i talking down to caleb?
caleb never intended to keep it private. He pm 'd me nd said something then he basically wrote what was on the pm on this thread, so we started debating htis topic here, on this thread

Truth TO YOU....

If you don't see your condescending tone in that post, then nothing I say will show it. I sincerely hope your eyes are opened to your behavior towards others, as it will do nothing to promote the Kingdom of God, rather, it will lead to more people leaving Christ because of Christians, one of the most well documented reasons for the decline in church attendance worldwide in the Christian church.

 

[Kathleen]

It means quite the contrary actually. It means I am sick and tired of you constantly thinking you are so "right" when you won't even stop to see the other side. You are so determined to get your points across you don't care how you treat people, as long as you can get your point across. Interenet debates are absoloutly pointless! Even if you win you still look like an idiot. I am still positive that piercings aren't unGodly, but talking to you is like talking to a brick wall, nothing is heard. So, I find it pointless, that is why I wont respond anymore. I love how you are taking serious comments and trying to turn them into jokes. I am quite serious about your parents. It doesn't matter where we are at in a spiritual journey, we are all supposed to be up lifting people, you are not. Your posts are not making sense Kathleen, this is where what I was saying earlier comes in. You are so set on the fact that you have to be "right" that you simply aren't making sense anymore. Now here is where I can't figure out what you are trying to say. "saying that you i am saying they r not instictavily right. therefore they must be wrong."??? Oh don't feel sorry for me, there is no need to.

see - i try to show emotion and u shoot me down. seriosuly its a lose lose situatuion here.

its is a debate, one side heres the oppisitions side, then the next person takes a go. Contradiction or agrreeing when ever they feel neccesery.
I find it amusing that the people that feel 'judged' are the people that are the ones that actually do have tattoos and peircings. You only feel judged because i am saying they are wrong. I do care how i treat people, but if we r in a discussion/debate, then i am not going to post something and say oh, btw how was school today. A discusiion is exactly that, getting your points acrooss.. I have to read your points for me to be able to contradict them, so of course i am hearing hte other end of the opinion.
DOnt feel bad for me or my parents. I am quite sure I have said that before, but maybe not, well u know now, dont be sorry for us.
what you said in ur pm was
caleb: You are saying they are not right, but there is nothing extictivly wrong (or whatever the word u used was)
and now i am telling you, if it is not right, it must be wrong. Sin is black and white, there is no grey inbetween.