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What part of.....(Cut loose for the destruction of the flesh so the spirit can be saved in the day of Christ) don't you understand?
What part of....(When I go to do good I find then a law that evil is present with me) don't you understand?
What part of (Not by works of righteousness which we have done) don't you understand?
What part of (In the grace you are, having been saved out of FAITH, that not of YOURSELVES as it is the GIFT of GOD not of works lest any man should boast) don't you understand?
What part of (It is the GIFT of God, not of works lest any man should boast) don't you understand?
Keep trusting your works Sea Perch and it will take you some place that you have no desire to see!
What part of....(When I go to do good I find then a law that evil is present with me) don't you understand?
What part of (Not by works of righteousness which we have done) don't you understand?
What part of (In the grace you are, having been saved out of FAITH, that not of YOURSELVES as it is the GIFT of GOD not of works lest any man should boast) don't you understand?
What part of (It is the GIFT of God, not of works lest any man should boast) don't you understand?
Keep trusting your works Sea Perch and it will take you some place that you have no desire to see!
OSS is the Better Acronymn
OSS = Once saved, saved!
The postposterous, posterous, and & preposterous idea that if you are saved,
why you are saved!
While you are croqueting doilies on passages off the topic, apostasy, passages you think mean a person loses salvation (though such an expression is altogether absent from the Bible),
fixate on the positive promises of God:
Jehovah redeemeth the soul of his servants;
And none of them that take refuge in him shall be condemned.
Ps 52
But as for me, I am like a green olive-tree in the house of God:
I trust in the lovingkindness of God for ever and ever.
I will give thee thanks for ever, because thou hast done it;
1 Thes 5 end:
"And the God of peace himself sanctify you wholly; and may your spirit and soul and body be preserved entire, without blame at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. Faithful is He Who calls you, Who will also do it.
Col 3
If then ye were raised together with Christ, seek the things that are above, where Christ is, seated on the right hand of God. Set your mind on the things that are above, not on the things that are upon the earth. For ye died, and your life is hid with Christ in God. When Christ, who is our life, shall be manifested, then ye also with him shall be manifested in glory.
The Eternal BeautyRest Mattress!
2 Thes 2:16
Now our Lord Jesus Christ himself, and God our Father who loved us and gave us eternal comfort and good hope through grace, comfort your hearts and establish them in every good work and word.
End of Rom 8:
And we know that to them who love God all things work together for good, even to them that are called according to his purpose. For whom
he foreknew,
he also foreordained to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren: and whom
he foreordained, them
he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom
he justified, them
he alsoglorified.
31 What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who is against us? 3He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not also with him freely give us all things? Who shall lay anything to the charge of God’s elect?
[Yeah, some idiots take a shot at it!]
It is God that justifieth; who is he that condemneth? It is Christ Jesus that died, yea rather, that was raised from the dead, who is at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us. Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or anguish, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? Even as it is written,
For thy sake we are killed all the day long;
We were accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us. For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor things present, nor things to come, nor powers, nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
1 Pet 1
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to his great mercy begat us again unto a living hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, unto an inheritance incorruptible, and
undefiled, and that
fadeth not away,
reserved in heaven for you, who by the power of God are
guarded through faith unto a salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.
Now I don't have any hope for you guys who write off the Savior as a mere chance-giver.
But for those of us who trust Him as actually the Savior,
we have this inheritance,
incorruptible, undeflied, unfadable, guarded by God's power.
I'm wearing my unfadable jeans of salvation.
They are part of the garments of praise for the spirit of heaviness.
Let this one sink in:
Thou shalt call His name Jesus,
for He shall save His people from their sins.
So suppose one day a guy is in the Lake of Fire,
& he complains to the warden as to how the Bible had said,
"He shall save His people from their sins."
The warden replies, You never said peep in your life.
You went around muttering all the time, beep good, beep good, beep good.
OSS = Once saved, saved!
The postposterous, posterous, and & preposterous idea that if you are saved,
why you are saved!
While you are croqueting doilies on passages off the topic, apostasy, passages you think mean a person loses salvation (though such an expression is altogether absent from the Bible),
fixate on the positive promises of God:
Jehovah redeemeth the soul of his servants;
And none of them that take refuge in him shall be condemned.
Ps 52
But as for me, I am like a green olive-tree in the house of God:
I trust in the lovingkindness of God for ever and ever.
I will give thee thanks for ever, because thou hast done it;
1 Thes 5 end:
"And the God of peace himself sanctify you wholly; and may your spirit and soul and body be preserved entire, without blame at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. Faithful is He Who calls you, Who will also do it.
Col 3
If then ye were raised together with Christ, seek the things that are above, where Christ is, seated on the right hand of God. Set your mind on the things that are above, not on the things that are upon the earth. For ye died, and your life is hid with Christ in God. When Christ, who is our life, shall be manifested, then ye also with him shall be manifested in glory.
The Eternal BeautyRest Mattress!
2 Thes 2:16
Now our Lord Jesus Christ himself, and God our Father who loved us and gave us eternal comfort and good hope through grace, comfort your hearts and establish them in every good work and word.
End of Rom 8:
And we know that to them who love God all things work together for good, even to them that are called according to his purpose. For whom
he foreknew,
he also foreordained to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren: and whom
he foreordained, them
he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom
he justified, them
he alsoglorified.
31 What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who is against us? 3He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not also with him freely give us all things? Who shall lay anything to the charge of God’s elect?
[Yeah, some idiots take a shot at it!]
It is God that justifieth; who is he that condemneth? It is Christ Jesus that died, yea rather, that was raised from the dead, who is at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us. Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or anguish, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? Even as it is written,
For thy sake we are killed all the day long;
We were accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us. For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor things present, nor things to come, nor powers, nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
1 Pet 1
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to his great mercy begat us again unto a living hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, unto an inheritance incorruptible, and
undefiled, and that
fadeth not away,
reserved in heaven for you, who by the power of God are
guarded through faith unto a salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.
Now I don't have any hope for you guys who write off the Savior as a mere chance-giver.
But for those of us who trust Him as actually the Savior,
we have this inheritance,
incorruptible, undeflied, unfadable, guarded by God's power.
I'm wearing my unfadable jeans of salvation.
They are part of the garments of praise for the spirit of heaviness.
Let this one sink in:
Thou shalt call His name Jesus,
for He shall save His people from their sins.
So suppose one day a guy is in the Lake of Fire,
& he complains to the warden as to how the Bible had said,
"He shall save His people from their sins."
The warden replies, You never said peep in your life.
You went around muttering all the time, beep good, beep good, beep good.
No I am saying what the bible teaches......ALL genuinely SAVED BORN AGAIN BELIEVERS HAVE SIN PRESENT and NO MATTER HOW much GOOD WE CAN/WILL DO it will never be GOOD ENOUGH to ADD to what JESUS HAS ALREADY ACCOMPLISHED!
The man in question as well as others found in the N.T. who had given evidence of faith only to fall and stumble in some sin DID NOT LOOSE their SALVATION, but rather were cut loose from the CHURCH for the SPECIFIC reason of the DESTRUCTION of the FLESH which is sold in SIN and FULL OF SIN from BIRTH to DEATH and or CHANGE at the rapture (so-called)!
That is what I am saying and that is what the BIBLE teaches although you seem to be blind to these truths because you cannot get out from behind your predisposition to WORKS FOR SALVATION.
The man in question as well as others found in the N.T. who had given evidence of faith only to fall and stumble in some sin DID NOT LOOSE their SALVATION, but rather were cut loose from the CHURCH for the SPECIFIC reason of the DESTRUCTION of the FLESH which is sold in SIN and FULL OF SIN from BIRTH to DEATH and or CHANGE at the rapture (so-called)!
That is what I am saying and that is what the BIBLE teaches although you seem to be blind to these truths because you cannot get out from behind your predisposition to WORKS FOR SALVATION.
Try believing God's word, O SeaBass. The object is not to support some denominational dogma.
How can a Savior who guarantees to save a man from his sins not do it?
If you want to escape sin, then you must have a Savior from sin.
Denying that only furthers a man in sin.
Don't be hooked on the ol "chance-giver" description of the Lord Jesus.
He is the SAvior. He will be your Savior if you trust Him for your salvation, your eternal destiny.
Thou shalt call His name Jesus,
for He shall save His people from their sins.
How can a Savior who guarantees to save a man from his sins not do it?
If you want to escape sin, then you must have a Savior from sin.
Denying that only furthers a man in sin.
Don't be hooked on the ol "chance-giver" description of the Lord Jesus.
He is the SAvior. He will be your Savior if you trust Him for your salvation, your eternal destiny.
Thou shalt call His name Jesus,
for He shall save His people from their sins.
If you are saying what the bible teaches then you are saying the wicked and fornicators are lost. Yet your man-made theology cannot allow you to say this.
Christians do sin and they MUST repent of their sins else perish Lk 13:3,5. This man at Corinth was living, continuing to live in fornication and was impenitent about it. ANY Christian that is impenitent about his sins will be lost.
You say "The man in question as well as others found in the N.T. who had given evidence of faith only to fall and stumble in some sin DID NOT LOOSE their SALVATION, but rather were cut loose from the CHURCH....
"Cut loose from the church" is equivalent to being lost for there is no salvation outside the church, the body of Christ...NONE! As Paul said in 1 Cor 6:9 FORNICATORS will NOT inherit the kingdom of God. You are arguing they will too inherit the kingdom of God.
Again, in Rom 6:16 Paul says one either 1)serves sin unto death or 2)obedience unto righteousness?
Which was this wicked, fornicator serving?
Dude the more you talk the more you prove that you are lost and have no clue as to what the word has to say....Now you are preaching (church) salvation....do you also have a little Catholic in you as well?
Have you ever had sex outside of marriage, have you thought about sex outside marriage? If yes then you too are a fornicator...if no you are either lying, gay or not reached the age of puberty!
Have you ever had sex outside of marriage, have you thought about sex outside marriage? If yes then you too are a fornicator...if no you are either lying, gay or not reached the age of puberty!
A Christian who sins is guilty of Christ's NT law but that Christian can repent and be forgiven. What we have in 1 Cor 5 is one who is living in sin and is impenitent.
--If I commit fornication yet repent then I will be forgiven.
--If I commit fornication and will not repent then I will be lost/perish, Lk 13:3,5
See the difference?
In 2 Cor 2:5-11 we are given indication this man repented of his wickedness/fornication.
--If I commit fornication yet repent then I will be forgiven.
--If I commit fornication and will not repent then I will be lost/perish, Lk 13:3,5
See the difference?
In 2 Cor 2:5-11 we are given indication this man repented of his wickedness/fornication.
It's not me that is claiming the impenitent wicked, fornicators will be saved.
Your man made eternal security has you fighting against the bible in its clear teaching fornicators will be lost, 1 Cor 6:9.
You keep avoiding the fact I told you that I am not impenitent of my sins but repent of them, walking in the light, 1 Jn 1:7, unlike the man in 1 Cor 5 who was impenitent about his sin while continuing to live in it.