I think so. The Mosiac Law was given to show how the world worked best for humans, it wasn't given for salvation, scripture says it wouldn't work for that. Yet God gave sort of operating instructions to us so our life works out the best. Governments have used it for their laws, atheist have used it to make their life better, I think following the law does bring God's blessings. Grace and faith bring salvation, only thing that will, and those who are saved are to live by the law for the blessings of the law.
The Sabbath was given to God's children.
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That's not what Scriptures say. Scriptures say that "For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse...." (Galatians 3:10a)
"No man is justified by the law in the sight of God....The just shall live by faith" (Galatians 3:11)
"The law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them" (Galatians 3:12)
"Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us...." (Galatians 3:13)
"the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith." (Galatians 3:14)
Galatians 3:10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.
Galatians 3:11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.
Galatians 3:12 And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.
Galatians 3:13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:
Galatians 3:14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
Therefore, everyone who tries to be justified by the "works of the law" put themselves "under the curse of the law". What "blessings" are you speaking of when you say "those who are saved are to live by the law for the blessings of the law."
The "law" is an "indivisible unit" (ceremonial, social, and moral)....613 commandments....not just the 10 commandments. You break one, you are guilty of breaking them all (James 2:10). You are teaching contrary to what Jesus, Paul, and the other apostles taught.
You can keep yourself "under the law and its curse"...but as for me and my house, we will live by faith. The law of Christ (2 commandments in Matthew 22:37-40) is written in my heart.
"No man is justified by the law in the sight of God....The just shall live by faith" (Galatians 3:11)
"The law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them" (Galatians 3:12)
"Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us...." (Galatians 3:13)
"the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith." (Galatians 3:14)
Galatians 3:10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.
Galatians 3:11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.
Galatians 3:12 And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.
Galatians 3:13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:
Galatians 3:14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
Therefore, everyone who tries to be justified by the "works of the law" put themselves "under the curse of the law". What "blessings" are you speaking of when you say "those who are saved are to live by the law for the blessings of the law."
The "law" is an "indivisible unit" (ceremonial, social, and moral)....613 commandments....not just the 10 commandments. You break one, you are guilty of breaking them all (James 2:10). You are teaching contrary to what Jesus, Paul, and the other apostles taught.
You can keep yourself "under the law and its curse"...but as for me and my house, we will live by faith. The law of Christ (2 commandments in Matthew 22:37-40) is written in my heart.
So scripture says two things about being blessed by the law, and both are of God, so both must be right. Scripture says we are blessed when we keep the law, and as many as are of works of the law are under a curse. If we are to accept both, we'll have to look deeper.
First, it says that the works of the law, not the law itself. When we look at other scriptures we find that if we try to work for our salvation we cannot be saved that way, it seems to me that would be a curse of the works of the law. But once we are saved through the faith and grace scripture tells us saves us and don't use the law to attain salvation, then we can read the other scripture.
No scripture can be ignored. All is from one God and works together. Both are truth for scripture is truth.
First, it says that the works of the law, not the law itself. When we look at other scriptures we find that if we try to work for our salvation we cannot be saved that way, it seems to me that would be a curse of the works of the law. But once we are saved through the faith and grace scripture tells us saves us and don't use the law to attain salvation, then we can read the other scripture.
No scripture can be ignored. All is from one God and works together. Both are truth for scripture is truth.
But there are two sabbath correct RedTent? the one given at the beginning of Genesis 2 and the one given to moses for the children of Israel in exodus 20 the ten commandments as a Duty.
God Bless the Sabbath, without condeming anyone if they did not keep it.
Genesis 2:2-3
And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
When God made the sabbath a duty for the children of Israel
exodus 20:8-11
Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: 10But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: 11For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
Exodus 31:13 Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you.
Exodus 31:15 Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD: whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death.
God Condemns Israel & it's people for breaking the sabbath His law.
In the OT Israel because of it pollution, abominations, idol worshipping,not keeping the convanent of God. She did not uphold that very commandment keeping the Sabbath, and the outcome became her desolation as you can read in Jeremiah 17:19-27
the outcome of it ...
Lamentations 2:5-6
The Lord was as an enemy: he hath swallowed up Israel, he hath swallowed up all her palaces: he hath destroyed his strong holds, and hath increased in the daughter of Judah mourning and lamentation.And he hath violently taken away his tabernacle, as if it were of a garden: he hath destroyed his places of the assembly: the LORD hath caused the solemn feasts and sabbaths to be forgotten in Zion, and hath despised in the indignation of his anger the king and the priest.
So exatly which sabbath is spoken of here ? The first one without condemnation, or the one the children of Israel could not uphold ?
God Bless
God Bless the Sabbath, without condeming anyone if they did not keep it.
Genesis 2:2-3
And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
When God made the sabbath a duty for the children of Israel
exodus 20:8-11
Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: 10But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: 11For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
Exodus 31:13 Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you.
Exodus 31:15 Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD: whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death.
God Condemns Israel & it's people for breaking the sabbath His law.
In the OT Israel because of it pollution, abominations, idol worshipping,not keeping the convanent of God. She did not uphold that very commandment keeping the Sabbath, and the outcome became her desolation as you can read in Jeremiah 17:19-27
the outcome of it ...
Lamentations 2:5-6
The Lord was as an enemy: he hath swallowed up Israel, he hath swallowed up all her palaces: he hath destroyed his strong holds, and hath increased in the daughter of Judah mourning and lamentation.And he hath violently taken away his tabernacle, as if it were of a garden: he hath destroyed his places of the assembly: the LORD hath caused the solemn feasts and sabbaths to be forgotten in Zion, and hath despised in the indignation of his anger the king and the priest.
So exatly which sabbath is spoken of here ? The first one without condemnation, or the one the children of Israel could not uphold ?
God Bless
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Scripture tells us of many Sabbaths to honor for different reasons, but they are all connected in some way. I haven't found a scripture that tells us that the Sabbath created on the seventh day was not related to the one told of on Mt Sinai. Both were assigned the same day and had the same characteristics. I can't read Hebrew, but at least the translators use the same word. We are not to add to scripture with our own reasoning, nor take away from it, I would have to have this shown to me in scripture.
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lol.. Non children of God follow gods commands all the time, Even paul acknowledged this, :When a gentile, who does not have the law. Do what is written in the law....)
Alot of people know Gods commands (paul says they know them all, and thus have no excuse0 and realise, Taking a day off work and resting IS A GOOD THING..
are they following god? No. But they are obeying his command. even though they would deny it.
Alot of people know Gods commands (paul says they know them all, and thus have no excuse0 and realise, Taking a day off work and resting IS A GOOD THING..
are they following god? No. But they are obeying his command. even though they would deny it.
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sin causes damage by the mere fact of committing the act.
If you do not commit the act, You will not suffer the consequences.
Also doing something which is good for us, Will reap the benefits.
Will they be blessed by God? no.
But they will reap the benefits of recharging their bodies, and being ready for another week of hard work, Which is WHY god gave it to us in the first pace.
If you do not commit the act, You will not suffer the consequences.
Also doing something which is good for us, Will reap the benefits.
Will they be blessed by God? no.
But they will reap the benefits of recharging their bodies, and being ready for another week of hard work, Which is WHY god gave it to us in the first pace.
The sabbath that was created at the beginning did not have condemnation, as the sabbath that was given to Israel by God to His servant name Moses.
Deuteronomy 5
And Moses called all Israel, and said unto them, Hear, O Israel, the statutes and judgments which I speak in your ears this day, that ye may learn them, and keep, and do them. 2The LORD our God made a covenant with us in Horeb. 3The LORD made not this covenant with our fathers, but with us, even us, who are all of us here alive this day.
Thee condemnation for breaking the sabbath that was given to moses was death.
Exodus 31:15 Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD: whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death.
Abraham, Noah nor Abraham, did not had this condemnation when they walk with God .
Deuteronomy 5:3The LORD made not this covenant with our fathers, but with us, even us, who are all of us here alive this day.
Perhaps you can see it more clearly now ?
There were no statutes and judgments for the fathers in observing that particular day. But for Moses & Israel there where consequences ,judgment and death.
God Bless
Deuteronomy 5
And Moses called all Israel, and said unto them, Hear, O Israel, the statutes and judgments which I speak in your ears this day, that ye may learn them, and keep, and do them. 2The LORD our God made a covenant with us in Horeb. 3The LORD made not this covenant with our fathers, but with us, even us, who are all of us here alive this day.
Thee condemnation for breaking the sabbath that was given to moses was death.
Exodus 31:15 Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD: whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death.
Abraham, Noah nor Abraham, did not had this condemnation when they walk with God .
Deuteronomy 5:3The LORD made not this covenant with our fathers, but with us, even us, who are all of us here alive this day.
Perhaps you can see it more clearly now ?
There were no statutes and judgments for the fathers in observing that particular day. But for Moses & Israel there where consequences ,judgment and death.
God Bless
Adam, Noah nor Abraham, did not had this condemnation when they walk with God .*
The sabbath given to moses did not have the same characteristics as the one Adam, Noah & Abraham had in there generation.
Moses and Israel had a law that if you did not follow would mean death.
The Fathers did not have this law, nor do Christians.
God Bless
The sabbath given to moses did not have the same characteristics as the one Adam, Noah & Abraham had in there generation.
Moses and Israel had a law that if you did not follow would mean death.
The Fathers did not have this law, nor do Christians.
God Bless
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The seventh day Sabbath was created holy, blessed and sanctified as part of creation week itself. That has not changed. The words, holy, blessed and sanctified have meaning to God and are valuable to Him. The Law says, "Remember to keep the seventh day holy" that means it was holy when it was created and God is telling us to remember to keep it holy. The Law didn't make it holy nor did it change it's character. Jesus is Lord of that same holy, blessed and sanctified day and if He is your Lord then that's your day too. The Sabbath is the Lord's day. Now lets see what Jesus says about Sunday. Hmmm, I just can't seem to find anything about Sunday. You would think there was dozens of verses since just about the whole world says Sunday is the Lord's day. I guess the Bible is true, broad is the way and many are going that way.
None of these verses state that the Sabbath in Genesis ended. They point to us going back to review that day, with the wise figuring out that it did not end like the other six days. God only rested in it.
It will be the same in the millennium reign of Christ. His kingdom never ends, correct? Then this 1000 years (day) of rest will lead into eternity with US resting in it just as God did.
It will be the same in the millennium reign of Christ. His kingdom never ends, correct? Then this 1000 years (day) of rest will lead into eternity with US resting in it just as God did.
Yes i agree the covenant the Lord gave to Moses for Israel says:
Exodus 20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
But Christians nor Jew are not under that old covenant anymore , they are free from the condemnation of that covenant. Adam, Noah nor Abraham upheld this commandment because it was given specifically to Moses for Israel & that Generation that live afterwards before Christ came in the flesh to fullfilled it completely.
Deuteronomy 5:3 The LORD made not this covenant with our fathers, but with us, even us, who are all of us here alive this day.
Suba: The Law didn't make it holy nor did it change it's character.
Actually the Law did change the character of the sabbath if you take your time and read :
exodus 31:15 Exodus 31:15 Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD: whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death.
If you continue to read this post God will, flip the page towards 2 Corinthians 3:7-3:16 take you time and read it. it was a ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, Because the law Given to Israel from God to Moses require one to uphold sabbath or to be sentence to death that was part of the ten commandment. What is the glory that excelleth in 2 Corinthians 3:10 .
I will continue if you wish me to continue with scripture. But hopefully you do have a understanding that this is the freedom, the price Jesus paid for all of us on the cross. If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.
God Bless
Exodus 20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
But Christians nor Jew are not under that old covenant anymore , they are free from the condemnation of that covenant. Adam, Noah nor Abraham upheld this commandment because it was given specifically to Moses for Israel & that Generation that live afterwards before Christ came in the flesh to fullfilled it completely.
Deuteronomy 5:3 The LORD made not this covenant with our fathers, but with us, even us, who are all of us here alive this day.
Suba: The Law didn't make it holy nor did it change it's character.
Actually the Law did change the character of the sabbath if you take your time and read :
exodus 31:15 Exodus 31:15 Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD: whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death.
If you continue to read this post God will, flip the page towards 2 Corinthians 3:7-3:16 take you time and read it. it was a ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, Because the law Given to Israel from God to Moses require one to uphold sabbath or to be sentence to death that was part of the ten commandment. What is the glory that excelleth in 2 Corinthians 3:10 .
I will continue if you wish me to continue with scripture. But hopefully you do have a understanding that this is the freedom, the price Jesus paid for all of us on the cross. If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.
God Bless
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If one thinks it's alright to see a movie, rated R or else, or to a ballgame featuring one's favorite star, or go shopping for one's favorite fashion brand on sale, and think it's alright with God, then by all means go, and as often as one wishes and not to be restricted on the Sabbath. 
You may not have to bring a dead sacrifice to God, thanks to Jesus, but you do bring a living sacrifice to God seen in how you live. Will your offering be acceptable to God?
Titus 1:16 They profess to know God, but in works they deny Him, being abominable, disobedient, and disqualified for every good work.
Titus 1:16 They profess to know God, but in works they deny Him, being abominable, disobedient, and disqualified for every good work.
The Law can only condemn those who break the Law. Jesus took the condemnation for us, He didn't do away with the Law. When a child of God is confronted with the Law he rejoices in it but when the unregenerated confront the Law, condemnation is the first thing that comes to their mind. The Law is a ministry of death to those who are guilty before God but Christ has remove our guilt so the condemning power of the Law has no authority over us but the glory of God's instruction is sweet to those of His kingdom.
If you study the Mosaic Law, you find that it was give AFTER the Hebrews were saved from slavery. It is symbolic of the law we are to listen to AFTER salvation. Before salvation, it only helps us see what kills without salvation. It does that but it is only one way we are to use it. God is one, there is no separation in His word or directions. All relate, even what Christ replaced relates to what He replaced.
Deut 28 "And if you faithfully obey the voice of the Lord your God, being careful to do all his commandments that I command you today, the Lord your God will set you high above all the nations of the earth. 2 And all these blessings shall come upon you and overtake you, if you obey the voice of the Lord your God. 3 Blessed shall you be in the city, and
blessed shall you be in the field. 4 Blessed shall be the fruit of your womb and the fruit of your ground and the fruit of your cattle, the increase of your herds and the young of your flock. 5 Blessed shall be your basket and your
kneading bowl. 6 Blessed shall you be when you come in, and blessed shall you be when you go out.
From the beginning of time, we are told it is only the power of God and God's grace that could ever save, and always God offered that through sacrifice. The only way that the commandments are associated with death is to show us the sin that will kill us if we don't take it to the lord. Otherwise, it is for our blessing when we obey.
The Hebrews were to be set apart from the gentile, only because in former times the gentile would not know God, although they were always invited. When Christ gave up the ghost, the curtain was split. The saints arose from sleep. We all became one people.
God is one speaking in one voice from the beginning, we must not try to separate him in any way, ever.
Deut 28 "And if you faithfully obey the voice of the Lord your God, being careful to do all his commandments that I command you today, the Lord your God will set you high above all the nations of the earth. 2 And all these blessings shall come upon you and overtake you, if you obey the voice of the Lord your God. 3 Blessed shall you be in the city, and
blessed shall you be in the field. 4 Blessed shall be the fruit of your womb and the fruit of your ground and the fruit of your cattle, the increase of your herds and the young of your flock. 5 Blessed shall be your basket and your
kneading bowl. 6 Blessed shall you be when you come in, and blessed shall you be when you go out.
From the beginning of time, we are told it is only the power of God and God's grace that could ever save, and always God offered that through sacrifice. The only way that the commandments are associated with death is to show us the sin that will kill us if we don't take it to the lord. Otherwise, it is for our blessing when we obey.
The Hebrews were to be set apart from the gentile, only because in former times the gentile would not know God, although they were always invited. When Christ gave up the ghost, the curtain was split. The saints arose from sleep. We all became one people.
God is one speaking in one voice from the beginning, we must not try to separate him in any way, ever.
So those of us that keep the Law are under a curse and those who do not keep the Law are then blessed?
Kinda opposite of what I read here...
Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
Rev 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
Kinda opposite of what I read here...
Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
Rev 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.