Has God Spoken To You?

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christiancanadian

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7. HE IS SEALED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT! Ephesians 1:13; No power in Heaven or earth can break God
 
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christiancanadian

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8. HE IS SEALED UNTO THE DAY OF REDEMPTION! Ephesians 4:30; The believer is sealed until the day God redeems his body.
Hogwash! There is not a single reputable translation of Scripture that says
 
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christiancanadian

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9. HOLY SPIRIT WILL ABIDE FOREVER! John 14:16-17; The indwelling of the Holy Spirit is permanent.
The context of the passage is to the twelve disciples and not to the whole world. It was written to believers, not to those who cease to believe. To apply a promise to those the passage never intended to include is the only way to rescue this false doctrine! Nothing in this passage guarantees or states the impossibility of falling from the faith. Another theological interjection!
 
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christiancanadian

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10. HE IS PRESERVED FOREVER! Psalm 37:28; God preserves the saint forever.
 
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christiancanadian

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I credit my friend 831 for showing me all of the scriptures that show the truth.
 
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Derek

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I moved away, far from home. I found a job right away, then was laid off right away. I was having trouble, worrying about life and keeping my finances in order. I was on the brink of sinking in a hole. I was in a real unstable position. A guy happened to hire me, I worked for a week and on Saturday night this guy called and wanted me to work the next day....Sunday. Not that I am legalistic about working on a Sunday, but I don't put God 2nd to work. I replied to him politely saying I will be going to church, he replied to me not so politely saying I dont have a job anymore. Already in an unstable position at the time, it was like the rug was ripped out from underneath me. I went to church the next day and God spoke. I wasnt paying all my attention to the message when Jerimiah 29:11 was put up on the sceen, NLT version. "I know my plans for you, declares the Lord, Plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future." This is how I knew it was God. My ears shut out all sound, my knees went weak and my heart sank deep, deep down. I had to do all I could to hold back the tears. I felt so little and insignificant, yet entirely loved.

A week later a friend sent me a gift, a wallet, with that same verse engraved on it. Some other friends made me a calender a few weeks after that, Jerimiah 29:11 on the front. And of coarse, with no effort from me, God brought me another job just in the knick of time.

You can't really define how God speaks to a person, but when He does, you'll know it.
 
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I moved away, far from home. I found a job right away, then was laid off right away. I was having trouble, worrying about life and keeping my finances in order. I was on the brink of sinking in a hole. I was in a real unstable position. A guy happened to hire me, I worked for a week and on Saturday night this guy called and wanted me to work the next day....Sunday. Not that I am legalistic about working on a Sunday, but I don't put God 2nd to work. I replied to him politely saying I will be going to church, he replied to me not so politely saying I dont have a job anymore. Already in an unstable position at the time, it was like the rug was ripped out from underneath me. I went to church the next day and God spoke. I wasnt paying all my attention to the message when Jerimiah 29:11 was put up on the sceen, NLT version. "I know my plans for you, declares the Lord, Plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future." This is how I knew it was God. My ears shut out all sound, my knees went weak and my heart sank deep, deep down. I had to do all I could to hold back the tears. I felt so little and insignificant, yet entirely loved.

A week later a friend sent me a gift, a wallet, with that same verse engraved on it. Some other friends made me a calender a few weeks after that, Jerimiah 29:11 on the front. And of coarse, with no effort from me, God brought me another job just in the knick of time.

You can't really define how God speaks to a person, but when He does, you'll know it.
Well said brother. All our praise to God! Amen!
 
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You should read Galations, it's crystal clear.
I have read galatians matter fact I have read through the New Testament over 100 times, and scripture teaches us that we will be presented before God spotless and unblameable ''IF'' we continue in the faith and are not turned away ''Collosians 1:21-23''. Yet you claim you cannot truan away. Are you calling God a liar?

Collosians 1:21-23
21 And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled

22 In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight:

23 If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;
 
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But how can someone who truly beleives in Jesus Christ as their savior lose salvation. If you truly accept him you will not turn away you may stumble but he will help you up. Someone who loses faith in God never really trusted or beleived in him
 
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But how can someone who truly beleives in Jesus Christ as their savior lose salvation. If you truly accept him you will not turn away you may stumble but he will help you up. Someone who loses faith in God never really trusted or beleived in him
WILL NOT and CANNOT are two very different things, however I have to disagree people who truly had faith do sometimes turn their back on God.
 
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christiancanadian

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11. HE IS BORN OF GOD! John 1:12-13 The believer actually becomes God's child and cannot be unborn.
Of course, this passage says nothing of the sort! No child in life or spirit is ever. language is not in anybodies vocabulary except for those who wish to invent a pathetic argument! People do not become unborn they die! They can die both physically, and spiritually!
 
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christiancanadian

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12. HE IS A NEW CREATURE! 2 Corinthians 5:17; God has made the believer a new creature.
Where? Must the whole argument for Eternal Security rest in what the Scriptures do not say? Apparently so! Nothing within this passage speaks to the issue at hand! Foolish theological interjection!
 
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13. HE IS CREATED IN CHRIST JESUS! Ephesians 2:10; The saint was created in his Saviour.
And as the verse continues, "to good works!" Not for sin and unbelief!
 
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14. HE IS PRESERVED UNTO THE HEAVENLY KINGDOM! 2 Timothy 4:18; The believer is preserved like Paul since God is no respecter of persons.
You seem to miss the statement that goes before this! The Lord will deliver me from every evil deed.Paul's hope was not based on faith in some false doctrine, but in the fact of the power of God to continue to deliver him from evil deeds. This passage is personal, and not a universal promise to all who ever had a scrape with grace! We can apply this to genuine believers who have the holiness that is wrought by God.
 
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onwingsaseagles

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Nothing you claim will change what scripture teaches.
 
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CristenJ

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I believe that God has spoken to me 4 times; twice in my mind, once through someone else, and once through an answer to a prayer.

The 2 times I believe He spoke directly to me, it was like no calm I have ever felt before. The circumstances were both to do with me panicking, berating myself for my mistakes. I felt like I had single handedly ruined my life and someone else's in one situation; the other, it was just a really, really bad couple of weeks.

These were the words: "Enough! I am Lord!" Which I knew immediately meant that I was being ridiculous and that He created me, He knew what I'd done, He knew before I was even born that I WOULD do it, and that in the grand scheme of things, it wasn't the drama I was making it out to be.
"Even the hairs on your head are numbered, child." I knew that was His way of telling me He loves me and I wasn't suffering needlessly.

I say that I BELIEVE God spoke to me, because it wasn't like an obvious, booming voice from Heaven...just a quiet, seemingly random thought. But as I have never referred to myself as 'child', nor have I ever had the sense to stop myself in the middle of a panic attack and remind myself that He is Lord, the only other explanation I have is that He spoke to me.

And as I said, it is an intense, sudden calm; the problems and emotions don't disappear, but the knowledge that He "has my back" so to speak, is absolutely amazing.
 
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silentweapon

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Hi christian canadian you have written in ur reply that "Eternal Security is based on Faith in Jesus alone, not works."
James 2:14 "What good is it, my brothers, if a man claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save him?"
James 2:17 "In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead."
James 2:20-24 "20You foolish man, do you want evidence that faith without deeds is useless]? 21Was not our ancestor Abraham considered righteous for what he did when he offered his son Isaac on the altar? 22You see that his faith and his actions were working together, and his faith was made complete by what he did. 23And the scripture was fulfilled that says, "Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness," and he was called God's friend. 24You see that a person is justified by what he does and not by faith alone."
and finally James 2:26 "As the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without deeds is dead."
 
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Hi christian canadian you have written in ur reply that "Eternal Security is based on Faith in Jesus alone, not works."
James 2:14 "What good is it, my brothers, if a man claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save him?"
James 2:17 "In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead."
James 2:20-24 "20You foolish man, do you want evidence that faith without deeds is useless]? 21Was not our ancestor Abraham considered righteous for what he did when he offered his son Isaac on the altar? 22You see that his faith and his actions were working together, and his faith was made complete by what he did. 23And the scripture was fulfilled that says, "Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness," and he was called God's friend. 24You see that a person is justified by what he does and not by faith alone."
and finally James 2:26 "As the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without deeds is dead."
2, True Salvation produces works of Righteousness. I.E.: The Test of Faith. See, mat, 7:17-20; Titus, 2:11-12; Jas, 2:14-24; IIPet, 1:5-10.

1, Salvation is not Repeatable. please check out Jn, 3:14-15; 4:13-14; 6:34, 51, these are more than sufficient to show this fact.

Persistent sin shows a lack of conversion, see, Jn 3:6-10 ( this is where present tense is used, it does NOT show that constant sin will result in the loss of salvation. If anything it may well show that the person was not saved in the fist place. To show true belief, faith produces / shows fruit, so persistent sin may show a lack of conversion in the first place.
 
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Nothing you claim will change what scripture teaches.
Persistent sin shows a lack of conversion, see, Jn 3:6-10 ( this is where present tense is used, it does NOT show that constant sin will result in the loss of salvation. If anything it may well show that the person was not saved in the fist place. To show true belief, faith produces / shows fruit, so persistent sin may show a lack of conversion in the first place.
 
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