Soulmates?

[RachelP03]

I believe God is the all knowing..... He knows every single thing... Choice.... Thought.... Action that we are going to take, to the day we die. Did I marry my first husband because I wanted too.? .... Yes...... Did I go to God with it for clarification? No..... I already felt in my heart that I shouldn't BUT HAD A CHOICE to listen to God. I believe God honored that marriage because we have free will but he knew the path of my choosing what all would happen..... He saw the bigger picture. He still wanted me to to fight for our marriage and I did what he wanted. Should have I listened to him from the beginning..... Who knows what I could of saved myself from... But nonetheless I can't take it back and I don't regret anything because I learned and now I know what to do.

I can t imagine our God throw people on earth and give us certain people who we could be compatible with and let us have free reign and that be His will. He wants us to trust him and seek him with everything and be content with where we are in life. My opinion is God is the all knowing.... When we walk in his path God will give us our spouse in His time and will change our heart when we seek him to show us if that person he has placed before us is the person he wants us to be with. It's trusting God that he will provide and bless us when he sees two people ready honoring him to join together. So as a couple seeking God... Loving Christ as Christ loves the church, He will be pleased. What a great blessing when God brings two people together.

So with that said.... I think the word soulmate is just a word describing when two people go to God and asks him for His guidance on who he would like them to be with and when they feel God has brought them together.... Their souls are United.... . And therefore people will feel like they met their "soulmate".

 

[rachelsedge]

I already felt in my heart that I shouldn't BUT HAD A CHOICE to listen to God. I believe God honored that marriage because we have free will but he knew the path of my choosing what all would happen..... He saw the bigger picture.

I can t imagine our God throw people on earth and give us certain people who we could be compatible with and let us have free reign and that be His will.

These two things contradict each other. In the first paragraph you say that you had a choice what to do in regards to who you married and that He wanted you to fight for your marriage, but then in the second paragraph you say that you can't imagine God giving us a choice/free will on who we marry.

How dare God give us multiple people to be compatible with! How dare we get along and love multiple types of people!

That's what you're saying, really. Which is why I am not a believer in the "only one for everyone" concept.

 

[ChandlerFan]

*sliiiiinks in*

Yeah, the hard thing about free will is that people don't always pray like they really believe it's true...

*sliiiiinks away*

 

[Pipp]

I was raised to believe in God has one specific person for you and the biblical basis was where Isaacs servant went to find him a wife and prayed specifics. ..and God sent Rebekah who fit exactly what the servant prayed for Isaac. I only recently have questioned the whole concept. I believe if God wanted to have one specific person for me he could because ...well he is God and no matter where he or I was God could bring us together...However if that was the case I believe God would have given us a lot more biblical examples to guide us . It's not even God's will for everyone to marry. Anyways with all that said ... My final stand is that God would have made it clear in his word if it was the way he planned it for us.

 

[RachelP03]

These two things contradict each other. In the first paragraph you say that you had a choice what to do in regards to who you married and that He wanted you to fight for your marriage, but then in the second paragraph you say that you can't imagine God giving us a choice/free will on who we marry.

How dare God give us multiple people to be compatible with! How dare we get along and love multiple types of people!

That's what you're saying, really. Which is why I am not a believer in the "only one for everyone" concept.

Well I'm glad you disagree.... As you have free will too..... But they don't contradict each other. You took the second paragraph wrong... Alot people feel as if God has all these people for us.... And we can pick and choose who we want. I'm saying I don't feel that's God's will...... . We obviously can do it... I'm saying I feel God wants us to depend on Him to bring the person he wants into our lives.

 

[Tintin]

I don't think God has only one person in mind for us. There are many respective people. If there's only one for you and that person gets married to someone else, well, you're stuffed. Many possible options, but you only get to choose one of them. I believe God works behind the scenes bringing people together, but He still gives us the gift of free will.

 

[Ugly]

I believe God is the all knowing..... He knows every single thing... Choice.... Thought.... Action that we are going to take, to the day we die. Did I marry my first husband because I wanted too.? .... Yes...... Did I go to God with it for clarification? No..... I already felt in my heart that I shouldn't BUT HAD A CHOICE to listen to God. I believe God honored that marriage because we have free will but he knew the path of my choosing what all would happen..... He saw the bigger picture. He still wanted me to to fight for our marriage and I did what he wanted. Should have I listened to him from the beginning..... Who knows what I could of saved myself from... But nonetheless I can't take it back and I don't regret anything because I learned and now I know what to do.

I can t imagine our God throw people on earth and give us certain people who we could be compatible with and let us have free reign and that be His will. He wants us to trust him and seek him with everything and be content with where we are in life. My opinion is God is the all knowing.... When we walk in his path God will give us our spouse in His time and will change our heart when we seek him to show us if that person he has placed before us is the person he wants us to be with. It's trusting God that he will provide and bless us when he sees two people ready honoring him to join together. So as a couple seeking God... Loving Christ as Christ loves the church, He will be pleased. What a great blessing when God brings two people together.

So with that said.... I think the word soulmate is just a word describing when two people go to God and asks him for His guidance on who he would like them to be with and when they feel God has brought them together.... Their souls are United.... . And therefore people will feel like they met their "soulmate".

But changing your Opinion on what a 'soul mate' is defined by doesn't change the definition that it Actually means or will be understood as from millions of others.
Changing the definition of a word to your own concept only serves to create confusion because you will be the only person viewing that word according to your attempt to alter the established definition. Continuing to do this will only lead to people disagreeing with you, confusion and debate because you will be referring to your definition will everyone else will be referring to the Real definition, much like this thread.

 

[MissCris]

I think finding the "right" person is like a game of Russian roulette.

Or am I thinking of Go Fish?

I dunno, I barely believe in love, let alone soulmates.

 

[gypsygirl]

I think finding the "right" person is like a game of Russian roulette.

Or am I thinking of Go Fish?

I dunno, I barely believe in love, let alone soulmates.

more likely, old maid. : )

 

[ChandlerFan]

I was thinking of War personally.


Why does love always have to be a battlefield? (Someone is going to bed with that song stuck in their head. You're welcome.)

 

[MissCris]

more likely, old maid. : )

YES, that! That's what I was thinking! Thank you!

 

[MissCris]

I was thinking of War personally.


Why does love always have to be a battlefield? (Someone is going to bed with that song stuck in their head. You're welcome.)

"Marriage is an adventure...like going to war"?

 

[Pipp]

I was thinking of War personally.


Why does love always have to be a battlefield? (Someone is going to bed with that song stuck in their head. You're welcome.)

Now I must listen to this tonight.

 

[Descyple]

I believe it is highly possible I could be misunderstanding the majority view in this thread. So if I do misrepresent it below, please grant me loving Christian forgiveness in advance (now that is a great disclaimer if I've ever heard one - lol).

If the phrase "Does God have a soul mate for me?" means "Is the person I'm going to end up marrying the person God has already planned for me to be with, and will bring about that relationship by the power of His will and providence for His own purposes and glory", then yes I would agree wholeheartedly. And why would I say that - because of one other phrase "God's sovereignty".

I am well aware by reading through the Bible Discussion forums over the years that there are practically as many definitions of God's "sovereignty" as there are active members on CC (that means a lot!!!).

So I will answer the question "Does God have a soulmate for me?" with what I believe the word "sovereignty" means regarding God. From what I've read in this thread, I honestly don't know how the majority of the people here would actually define God's sovereignty (perhaps that is how this whole discussion should have started at the very beginning).

I take God's sovereignty literally in every sense of the word - which would be "God is in control of His creation, and has created all of it (including us and the major aspects of our lives) for His purposes and glory, and He will bring about His own purposes in our lives according to His power and will." Now I would probably get some (or at least a couple) of "Amens" for that statement, but then it sames those same people would then say "But God has no control/say or hand in regarding who I should/will marry". Which then would confuse me all over again.

Would the majority of people here say "Yes, I totally believe in God's sovereignty, but.................. not when it comes to my marriage". It seems that is what most here are saying (again, I could be wrong about your views, but it does at least seem that is what is being stated here over and over again).

Is God sovereign over which job and career you will have, but He is not sovereign over who you will marry?
Is God sovereign over which ministry you will be in to best serve Him, but He is not sovereign over who you will marry?
Is God sovereign over........................ I think you get my point here.

Or do you take the extreme view and say "God is not sovereign over anything in my life".

I believe there are only four possible options to take regarding God's sovereignty:

1. God is sovereign over everything in my life, from beginning to end (which is the view I hold to)
2. God is sovereign over some things in my life, but just the small things, not the major things like marriage.
3. God tries to be sovereign over my life, but I am able to stop Him and thwart His plans and create my own life.
4. God is not sovereign at all, it's not one of His attributes.

(If there are more options regarding God's sovereignty, then definitely add them to this list).

Perhaps if the majority view stated which definition of God's sovereignty they hold, that would then clear up a lot of the confusion (at least the confusion in my own mind) as to why most people hear reject the concept of God planning our marriages in advance and determining who we marry.


Okay, my post is getting way too long, and I'd prefer to leave the long "Wall of Posts" to AzureAfire (she's much better and more willing at writing them).

Again, please forgive me if I've misrepresented anyones views here. That is surely not my intent.

Having said all that, "Live Long and Prosper"

"I know the plans I have for you", declares the Lord, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future."
- Jeremiah 29:11


P.S. Hey, that verse leads to a question that could be helpful in this thread. How do you all interpret God's word "plans" specifically regarding our lives? Is it just "hopes" He has for us, or just "ideas" that He would like to run across us and see if we approve and will allow Him to fulfill? Of does it mean His overarching sovereignty which He Himself will absolutely bring to pass in our lives for His own purposes, and nothing can or will stop Him?


Okay, seriously, I am done now. It's my bed time. You kids have a goodnight, and don't stay up too late!!!

 

[MissCris]

Descyple- holy smokes! A serious post!


Now for what I think regarding "soul mates" and God choosing a specific person for us...

I don't believe that God has one specific person in mind for Most people. I think it's entirely likely that He does for Some people (as has even been pointed out in scripture previously in this thread).

I think many people are not even meant to marry, and that many people are compatible with several others and can choose freely who they want to spend their life with.

I think any of these people, whether God desires them to marry a specific person, or nobody, or marry one from a number of possible choices...I think anyone can exercise their free will and go against God's ultimate plan for their life. But! No matter how we screw it up, we can't actually ruin His plans. We may cause ourselves and others a lot of unnecessary pain, but at the end of the day, God is still God.

I don't think this is a topic to dwell overmuch on, either. Aside from it being divisive, does it really make a difference in our own lives what someone else believes God's will for Their life is? Unless the person has gone off the deep end and needs directed back into the fold (and I don't think the OP of this thread has done that, I think she is just hurting and needs a little guidance and a lot of support)...then why is it a debate? Nobody's salvation is in jeopardy (I just have to share that autocorrect tried to make me say that nobody's salvation is in Newport...) just because they do or don't feel that God may or may not have a specific person in His plan for them to marry. They may be holding onto a false hope, sure- but then, they could be right.

 

[Nautilus]

I believe it is highly possible I could be misunderstanding the majority view in this thread. So if I do misrepresent it below, please grant me loving Christian forgiveness in advance (now that is a great disclaimer if I've ever heard one - lol).

If the phrase "Does God have a soul mate for me?" means "Is the person I'm going to end up marrying the person God has already planned for me to be with, and will bring about that relationship by the power of His will and providence for His own purposes and glory", then yes I would agree wholeheartedly. And why would I say that - because of one other phrase "God's sovereignty".

I am well aware by reading through the Bible Discussion forums over the years that there are practically as many definitions of God's "sovereignty" as there are active members on CC (that means a lot!!!).

So I will answer the question "Does God have a soulmate for me?" with what I believe the word "sovereignty" means regarding God. From what I've read in this thread, I honestly don't know how the majority of the people here would actually define God's sovereignty (perhaps that is how this whole discussion should have started at the very beginning).

I take God's sovereignty literally in every sense of the word - which would be "God is in control of His creation, and has created all of it (including us and the major aspects of our lives) for His purposes and glory, and He will bring about His own purposes in our lives according to His power and will." Now I would probably get some (or at least a couple) of "Amens" for that statement, but then it sames those same people would then say "But God has no control/say or hand in regarding who I should/will marry". Which then would confuse me all over again.

Would the majority of people here say "Yes, I totally believe in God's sovereignty, but.................. not when it comes to my marriage". It seems that is what most here are saying (again, I could be wrong about your views, but it does at least seem that is what is being stated here over and over again).

Is God sovereign over which job and career you will have, but He is not sovereign over who you will marry?
Is God sovereign over which ministry you will be in to best serve Him, but He is not sovereign over who you will marry?
Is God sovereign over........................ I think you get my point here.

Or do you take the extreme view and say "God is not sovereign over anything in my life".

I believe there are only four possible options to take regarding God's sovereignty:

1. God is sovereign over everything in my life, from beginning to end (which is the view I hold to)
2. God is sovereign over some things in my life, but just the small things, not the major things like marriage.
3. God tries to be sovereign over my life, but I am able to stop Him and thwart His plans and create my own life.
4. God is not sovereign at all, it's not one of His attributes.

(If there are more options regarding God's sovereignty, then definitely add them to this list).

Perhaps if the majority view stated which definition of God's sovereignty they hold, that would then clear up a lot of the confusion (at least the confusion in my own mind) as to why most people hear reject the concept of God planning our marriages in advance and determining who we marry.


Okay, my post is getting way too long, and I'd prefer to leave the long "Wall of Posts" to AzureAfire (she's much better and more willing at writing them).

Again, please forgive me if I've misrepresented anyones views here. That is surely not my intent.

Having said all that, "Live Long and Prosper"

"I know the plans I have for you", declares the Lord, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future."
- Jeremiah 29:11


P.S. Hey, that verse leads to a question that could be helpful in this thread. How do you all interpret God's word "plans" specifically regarding our lives? Is it just "hopes" He has for us, or just "ideas" that He would like to run across us and see if we approve and will allow Him to fulfill? Of does it mean His overarching sovereignty which He Himself will absolutely bring to pass in our lives for His own purposes, and nothing can or will stop Him?


Okay, seriously, I am done now. It's my bed time. You kids have a goodnight, and don't stay up too late!!!

Soo...whats your opinion on free will?

 

[CatHerder]

I think finding the "right" person is like a game of Russian roulette.

Or am I thinking of Go Fish?

...

I was thinking of War personally.

Yes. Those...

...and some of this.

 

[Shouryu]

{SNIP!}

Descyple- holy smokes! A serious post!

The first thing I thought of was...REPENT, FOR THE END IS NIGH!!!

 

[Descyple]

Descyple- holy smokes! A serious post!

The first thing I thought of was...REPENT, FOR THE END IS NIGH!!!

I have reached my quota of posting two serious posts in one year.

Now you have to wait until 2015 for my next one (unless the end of the world comes first!!!).

 

[Descyple]

nobody's salvation is in Newport

MissCris, how dare you say................................ salvation cannot be found in Newport. You're such a salvation "Localist" (hey, I just coined a new religious phrase, which means only people living near MissCris can be saved).

I guess I better pack my bags and head south of the border to the great U.S. of A.

Now where did I put my "I'm Canadian, Don't Shoot" survivalist t-shirt???