Jet Shot Down?

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What do you all think of the Malaysian Passenger Plane with 290 plus being (supposedly) shot down by a surface to air missile over Ukraine by a Russian Weapons System?
 
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Sad.
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We will never know the truth, All parties will claim another group was responsible and the group to which the world points its collective finger at will just deny it and claim cover up and conspiracy. Even if missle parts are identified it will prove nothing as anyone could have got hold of it.
 
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1still_waters said:
Sad.
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No doubt and tragic, wasteful, uncalled for, useless, stupid, evil and any other word or words that may apply......Paul said...VERY PERILOUS TIMES before the return of Jesus...for real!
 
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Israel will be blamed.
 
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Agricola said:
We will never know the truth, All parties will claim another group was responsible and the group to which the world points its collective finger at will just deny it and claim cover up and conspiracy. Even if missle parts are identified it will prove nothing as anyone could have got hold of it.
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No doubt, and when they are all flapping their lips all I see coming out of their pie holes are.....LIES, LIES, LIES, LIES, and occasionally MORE LIES.....
 
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If it was shot down, I'd bet it was a mistake. The US shot down Iran Air Flght 655, it was a civilian craft. 290 fatalities. Tragic, wasteful, uncalled for, useless and stupid certainly are good words to use, but I doubt that it was deliberate evil.

Aeroplanes make squawks, Iran Air Flight 655's squawk was mode 3 and the US navy mistook it for mode 2, apparently. I'd say this may be something similar.
 
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Esanta said:
If it was shot down, I'd bet it was a mistake. The US shot down Iran Air Flght 655, it was a civilian craft. 290 fatalities. Tragic, wasteful, uncalled for, useless and stupid certainly are good words to use, but I doubt that it was deliberate evil.

Aeroplanes make squawks, Iran air's squawk was mode 3 and the US navy mistook it for mode 2, apparently. I'd say this may be something similar.
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Evil in the sense of...what Purpose do men have in killing each other over dirt with a particular flag flying over it.......
 
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Honestly, I think the plane must have been in a lower altitude when it flew over the heavy fighting. Someone on one side or the other mistook it for a hostile target and fired some ground to air missile and shot it down. That person may never know that it was even him that did it.
 
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dcontroversal said:
Evil in the sense of...what Purpose do men have in killing each other over dirt with a particular flag flying over it.......
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Says the man who wants the Israeli army to 'raise Palestine to the ground' and 'kill a thousand for every dead Israeli'.

Seems like unjustified deliberate killing is okay when it's those you support doing it, but oh no, not the Russians or the Ukranians .. I don't see what the Russia-Ukraine conflict has to do with an accidental shooting anyway. One is deliberate warring, the other is not.
 
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Esanta said:
Says the man who wants the Israeli army to 'raise Palestine to the ground' and 'kill a thousand for every dead Israeli'.

Seems like unjustified deliberate killing is okay when it's those you support doing it, but oh no, not the Russians or the Ukranians .. I don't see what the Russia-Ukraine conflict has to do with an accidental shooting anyway. One is deliberate warring, the other is not.
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Only you can turn a tragedy into an agenda.
 
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ThomistColin said:
Honestly, I think the plane must have been in a lower altitude when it flew over the heavy fighting. Someone on one side or the other mistook it for a hostile target and fired some ground to air missile and shot it down. That person may never know that it was even him that did it.
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This seems to be what is coming out...some separatist was bragging about shooting down a transport plane and immediately withdrew his statement and then this comes out.....they are saying the plane was at 10000 feet which matches what you think....
 
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Esanta said:
Says the man who wants the Israeli army to 'raise Palestine to the ground' and 'kill a thousand for every dead Israeli'.

Seems like unjustified deliberate killing is okay when it's those you support doing it, but oh no, not the Russians or the Ukranians .. I don't see what the Russia-Ukraine conflict has to do with an accidental shooting anyway. One is deliberate warring, the other is not.
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Sorry your ignorance is evident...

1st You cannot compare Israel and squatters who do not belong in the land that God has given Israel
2nd THE LAND is GOD decreed to ISRAEL.....and don't worry...all your friends will pay the price when the LION of the TRIBE of JUDAH comes to judge and rule.
 
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Esanta said:
Says the man who wants the Israeli army to 'raise Palestine to the ground' and 'kill a thousand for every dead Israeli'.

Seems like unjustified deliberate killing is okay when it's those you support doing it, but oh no, not the Russians or the Ukranians .. I don't see what the Russia-Ukraine conflict has to do with an accidental shooting anyway. One is deliberate warring, the other is not.
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And if you are going to quote me...make sure you get it right...it was a FEW thousand for every Israeli BOY OR GIRL kidnapped and brutally murdered...didn't say anything about dirt and flags in that post!

Not that you have ever said anything in the heat of the moment........what a farce and a joke!
 
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What a horrible tragedy. My prayers go out to the families.
 
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What a horrible tragedy. My prayers go out to the families.
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They are also saying that there were 20 plus Americans on board and it is being called an act of terror.....
 
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Now they are saying the plane was at 33,000 feet....ok lets split the middle...10,000-33,000 ........
 
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Now they are saying that RUSSIA has taken control of the site and will not allow Ukranian personnel in to inspect the site.....

Russia via the (rebels) in Eastern Ukraine....
 
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They are also saying that there were 20 plus Americans on board and it is being called an act of terror.....
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oh in that case America will find the pro Russian militia rebels currently occupying towns and large areas of Ukraine being responsible. As Russia distance themsleves from this group, hands in air with "nothing to do with us, honest!" comments, this allows USA to declare them as terrorists and will therefore offer military support to Ukraine to irradicate the "terrorists".

Even if this is state sponsored action on behalf of Russia, Russia will dare not get involved, Ukraine democracy will be restored and the USA will be invited to create military bases around Crimea.
 
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rebels claim to have the black box
 
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