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There is no attack on the kjv that is a strawman argument
no one says the king james was false
it was written specifically to could the english churches false doctrines but the words changed could be taken correctly
so the admonition is
STUDY the original king james text to make sure YOUR pastor is not twisting the words.
no one says the king james was false
it was written specifically to could the english churches false doctrines but the words changed could be taken correctly
so the admonition is
STUDY the original king james text to make sure YOUR pastor is not twisting the words.
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pointing out a translation inconsistency is not attacking the Bible
it is called Bible study
you can verify by clicking on the word and seeing what it really means
that is the message.
be aware half the doctrines are built on twisting the kjv verses and taking advantages of unclear phrasing...
proof
what does it mean to put away your wife?
answer: comparing all other KING JAMES VERSES it means divorce
some pastors argue it means
DEATH
TRAVEL SEPARATION
LEGAL SEPARATION
spiritual separation
so the way king james puts it allows argument
DIVORCE does not allow argument
so
just look it up
if you are using the king james LOOK IT UP
to make sure you got it right
what does FORNICATION MEAN?
some say it means
sinning
doing bad things
thinking evil against people
something bad
something not good
now what does
Sex when not marreid mean?
it means sex when not married
to get that definition from king james you ahve to do a LOT OF STUDY
whereas other translations just say
it
king james is right.
but in places where the church had unproveable doctrines they made it VERY HARD TO DISPRVE THEM
that is the truth
idol worship
it is called Bible study
you can verify by clicking on the word and seeing what it really means
that is the message.
be aware half the doctrines are built on twisting the kjv verses and taking advantages of unclear phrasing...
proof
what does it mean to put away your wife?
answer: comparing all other KING JAMES VERSES it means divorce
some pastors argue it means
DEATH
TRAVEL SEPARATION
LEGAL SEPARATION
spiritual separation
so the way king james puts it allows argument
DIVORCE does not allow argument
so
just look it up
if you are using the king james LOOK IT UP
to make sure you got it right
what does FORNICATION MEAN?
some say it means
sinning
doing bad things
thinking evil against people
something bad
something not good
now what does
Sex when not marreid mean?
it means sex when not married
to get that definition from king james you ahve to do a LOT OF STUDY
whereas other translations just say
it
king james is right.
but in places where the church had unproveable doctrines they made it VERY HARD TO DISPRVE THEM
that is the truth
idol worship
So is the NIV, New King Jmaes, Tindal, etc etc. I love the King James Bible, but it is just a translation, there is nothing magical about it, this is where the error in humans thinking is. The King James Only Cult is a Cult and is so caught up in its claims that it seems to relegate God and the message of God.
Yes it is under attack. Do your research and due dliligence ma'am.
What a foolish statement!
If it is virtually ignored like you claim; then explain to me how is it the best selling Book of all time???
No He has not. God is for the Old Paths:
Jeremiah 6:16 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
16 Thus saith the Lord, Stand ye in the ways,
and see, and ask for the old paths, where is the good way,
and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls.
But they said, We will not walk therein.
There are no mistakes in the KJV.
Which "bible" have you read almost 50 times?
You mean to tell me that you do not understand Bible English? Really?
Are you really that delusional???
If the "Greek" and the "Hebrew" are "much easier" to understand than the KJV, then why don't I ever see street preachers and evangelists using a Greek New Testament or a Hebrew Old Testament when witnessing to the Lost??
Whenever I see street preachers preaching the word of God, and witnessing to the Lost, they are preaching from the English Bible, the King James Holy Bible.
If you really think that Greek (a dead language) is easier to understand than the KJV, than you have an issue that you need to settle. Your issue is not with "16th or 17th" century English. Your issue goes deeper than that. Your issue is that you have a problem with Absolute Final Authority.
No, you modern versionists take your "new, modern, contemporary, corrupt, and watered down" bibles and go elsewhere.
Really???
Biblical English is not used anymore? Last time I checked, there are literally thousands upon thousands of blood bought born again Christians that still use, read, and study the King James Holy Bible. And that must mean that Biblical English is still being used.
It is inspired.
2 Timothy 3:16-17
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 that the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
All Scripture is inspired.
Oh and by the way, you want to talk about "shoddy scholarship!" Wow, you are about to give me a good laugh!
I'll let brother Ed Pfenninger show a good example of "shoddy scholarship."
More evidence of James White's shallow thinking
[video=youtube_share;k6x4GluGpnw]http://youtu.be/k6x4GluGpnw[/video]
In this video I show more evidence that James White is incapable of any deep thinking.
He states that Erasmus has errors in his last verses in Rev. due to the fact that Eramsus used the Vulgate.
Yet admits that Erasmus had access to better Ms later on, as did Stephenus and Beza.
White can't explain how these 'errors' remained in the TR. White can't grasp the fact that they weren't errors !
The NIV (Non Inspired Version) is of the Devil. It is a wicked, filthy, hellish, piece of garbege.
And the more revisions that they make of it, the more worse it gets!
The ESV and NASB are not closer to the original. They both are based on the vile and corrupt Roman Catholic Vaticanus and Sinaiticus manuscripts.
If the NIV and NKJV and all the rest of the modern translations didn't contain errors and didn't contradict themselves then I would agree.
The bible says God preserved his word, I believe it. I believe that every single word I read in the KJV is RIGHT! Where have I relegated God and the message of God?
The bible says God preserved his word, I believe it. I believe that every single word I read in the KJV is RIGHT! Where have I relegated God and the message of God?
The Apocrypha is part of the King James Bible. At least the one published in 1611, and the ones published for several hundred years after that. With cross references to and fro.
Quit begging the question.
You have said the KJV is "perfect" and always has been.
That statement is false merely because the KJV contained the Apocrypha.
No need to go any further on the subject of KJV perfection, as stated by you.
Quit begging the question.
You have said the KJV is "perfect" and always has been.
That statement is false merely because the KJV contained the Apocrypha.
No need to go any further on the subject of KJV perfection, as stated by you.
People have been using the KJV for centuries. That's the number one reason why people have basically started worshipping it. If you use something long enough then you start making an icon of it. Like I said earlier, it's very similar to Catholics who insist that their church services be in Latin because they feel that Latin is a holier language. They started out using Latin because that was the language everyone spoke, and then they kept it up long after people stopped speaking Latin because they had made an icon of a tradition. In the same way KJV-only is a man made tradition. It wouldn't bother me so much if I didn't know so many people who were discouraged from reading the Bible because of it. Bringing up the Catholics again, it reminds me of how they also didn't want the Latin Vulgate Bible translated into English because they felt that the Latin Vulgate was especially inspired by God. It's that same line of thinking. It's terrible because it basically keeps people from reading the Bible in their own language.
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Hey Phil.....I use KING JIM and study all words from the Greek and Hebrew myself as well.....MY reasons listed are based upon having friends and family that pastor churches in about 20 states and about 12 or so countries and the conversations that we have as well as what I have heard with my own ears.....so not sure what your point is......
I see you still use the wrong color of chainsaw HAH--->Stihl for me thank u very much HAHAHH
I see you still use the wrong color of chainsaw HAH--->Stihl for me thank u very much HAHAHH
My point exactly.....worship the version instead of the God of the version.......thanks for making my point clear...refer to numbers 1 and 5 of my original post to this post.....!
Well having studied a bit and being honest with History and the truth about the King James I have come to the following....
The reason it gets assaulted so much is at least five fold....
1. Because people worship the version instead of the God of the version
2. Because people believe that God would inspire 54 Episcopalians
3. Because it is a TRANSLATION and TRANSLITERATION copied almost VERBATIM from the first English BIBLE
4. Because it contains transliterated words that should have been translated
5. Because PEOPLE worship the King James Version
Just to name 5
Well having studied a bit and being honest with History and the truth about the King James I have come to the following....
The reason it gets assaulted so much is at least five fold....
1. Because people worship the version instead of the God of the version
2. Because people believe that God would inspire 54 Episcopalians
3. Because it is a TRANSLATION and TRANSLITERATION copied almost VERBATIM from the first English BIBLE
4. Because it contains transliterated words that should have been translated
5. Because PEOPLE worship the King James Version
Just to name 5