Jewish

[Fishbait]

God is the one who decides who is saved NOT me!

Jews deny The Son - thus they do NOT have eternal life according to The Word of God....not me....come on...

God has a plan for Israel and the Jews. The very people God said, “You are a people holy to the Lord your God. The Lord your God has chosen you out of all the peoples on the face of the earth to be his people, his treasured possession” (Deuteronomy 7:6). The very people you say '"do NOT have eternal life".

Like many Christians you're trying to change that plan. A plan that will bring back the very One that we as Christians long for. The return of Jesus Christ - a Jew - where He will stand on the Mount of Olives. In the land of Israel. God's land that He gave to the Jews. And He will show the 'Jews' of Israel "whom they have pierced" (Zechariah 12:10) that He is the Messiah.

 

[Bowman]

Re: duh....

duh...

Jesus Christ told us He's a Jew:

"You [Gentiles] worship what you do not know; we [Jews] know what we [Jews] worship, for salvation is of the Jews” (John 4:22).

'The Son' Jesus Christ is a Jew. How are we saved if Jesus has lost His "eternal life"?

Read and understand what you study...

From the Greek 'ek'...literally 'out from' the Jews.

Jews are NOT saved if they deny The Son.

Period.

Study your Greek when you google....

 

[Bowman]

God has a plan for Israel and the Jews. The very people God said, “You are a people holy to the Lord your God. The Lord your God has chosen you out of all the peoples on the face of the earth to be his people, his treasured possession” (Deuteronomy 7:6). The very people you say '"do NOT have eternal life".

Like many Christians you're trying to change that plan. A plan that will bring back the very One that we as Christians long for. The return of Jesus Christ - a Jew - where He will stand on the Mount of Olives. In the land of Israel. God's land that He gave to the Jews. And He will show the 'Jews' of Israel "whom they have pierced" (Zechariah 12:10) that He is the Messiah.

In what way was Jesus a Jew?

Theologically?

No.

Try again...

 

[Fishbait]

Re: duh....

From the Greek 'ek'...literally 'out from' the Jews.

Jews are NOT saved if they deny The Son.

Period.

Study your Greek when you google....

I'm glad you corrected your orginal statement from, "Jews do not have eternal life" to "Jews are NOT saved IF they deny The Son. Period". Bravo for you Bowmen!. Placing the word 'if' in your new statement changes everything.

I look forward for corrections I make in statements either from you or anyone. We all error at times and corrections are sometimes in order.

Bless you.

 

[Bowman]

Re: duh....

I'm glad you corrected your orginal statement from, "Jews do not have eternal life" to "Jews are NOT saved IF they deny The Son. Period". Bravo for you Bowmen!. Placing the word 'if' in your new statement changes everything.

I look forward for corrections I make in statements either from you or anyone. We all error at times and corrections are sometimes in order.

Bless you.

No change has been made.

The very lexical definition of 'Jew' means those that deny Jesus' deity.

Anyone who still calls themselves a Jew inherently denies Jesus' deity....and therefore does NOT have eternal life.

Simple.

 

[Fishbait]

In what way was Jesus a Jew?

Theologically?


No.

Try again...

Thank you for letting me "Try again". You are so gracious. You asked. "In what way was Jesus a Jew?

A: Jesus made it very clear that He was a Jew when He said:

"You [Gentiles] worship what you do not know; we [Jews] know what we [Jews] worship, for salvation is of the Jews” (John 4:22)."

The very first verse of the New Testament clearly proclaims the Jewish ethnicity of Jesus. “The book of the genealogy of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham” (Matthew 1:1). It is evident from passages like Hebrews 7:14, “For it is clear that our Lord descended from Judah,” that Jesus descended from the tribe of Judah, from which we get the name “Jew.”

Maybe you need to 'study' more by reading more. Read more about the fact that Jesus was a Jew. Although not written in 'Greek', but in english, it may help you see that Jesus was a Jew.

Was Jesus a Jew?

 

[Scuba]

Thank you for letting me "Try again". You are so gracious. You asked. "In what way was Jesus a Jew?

A: Jesus made it very clear that He was a Jew when He said:

"You [Gentiles] worship what you do not know; we [Jews] know what we [Jews] worship, for salvation is of the Jews” (John 4:22)."

The very first verse of the New Testament clearly proclaims the Jewish ethnicity of Jesus. “The book of the genealogy of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham” (Matthew 1:1). It is evident from passages like Hebrews 7:14, “For it is clear that our Lord descended from Judah,” that Jesus descended from the tribe of Judah, from which we get the name “Jew.”

Maybe you need to 'study' more by reading more. Read more about the fact that Jesus was a Jew. Although not written in 'Greek', but in english, it may help you see that Jesus was a Jew.

Was Jesus a Jew?

John 4:9 Then the woman of Samaria said to Jesus, “How is it that You, being a Jew, ask a drink from me, a Samaritan woman?” For Jews have no dealings with Samaritans.

 

[Bowman]

Thank you for letting me "Try again". You are so gracious. You asked. "In what way was Jesus a Jew?

A: Jesus made it very clear that He was a Jew when He said:

"You [Gentiles] worship what you do not know; we [Jews] know what we [Jews] worship, for salvation is of the Jews” (John 4:22)."

The very first verse of the New Testament clearly proclaims the Jewish ethnicity of Jesus. “The book of the genealogy of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham” (Matthew 1:1). It is evident from passages like Hebrews 7:14, “For it is clear that our Lord descended from Judah,” that Jesus descended from the tribe of Judah, from which we get the name “Jew.”

Maybe you need to 'study' more by reading more. Read more about the fact that Jesus was a Jew. Although not written in 'Greek', but in english, it may help you see that Jesus was a Jew.

Was Jesus a Jew?

You are confusing ethnicity with theology.

Again.

Jews don't murder other Jews who agree with them theologically.

 

[wattie]

Well, we can show what scripture says about what Jews did and their status from that. This therefore would inform us of what Jews are like now.

Of course, the spiritual status of someone is between them of God.. but the bible does show the status of many.

 

[Sec]

First off, I'm new here so let me say, that I do not just believe in God, I KNOW THERE IS A GOD. therefore, I write what I KNOW, I very rarely venture into I believe.
In the evangelistic Christian community we have claimed the word "saved" and only allow it to mean the day when we accepted Jesus as our Lord and savior, however when dealing with the scripture it means something else, because everybody's soul is saved when they die. what I mean by that, is that God does not throw anyone away until He has firmly and completely given up on them and this IS Biblical, it is just not normally touched on because most theologians and pastors are clueless about it. The question, does a Jeue (Jew) go to hell when they die, the short answer is: depends upon how they lived their life. The Hebrew word translated as "eternal, or forever" as well as the Greek word translated in that manner actually mean "a life time" God does not do hell forever, God is NOT a sadist, who gets pleasure out of His chosen people's suffering, Oh, if you believe in God, you are one of His chosen people, because you can't get to that point unless God chooses you. Where do Jeues (Jews) wind up? The same place Christians do, right here on Earth! What ?? yes, according to Jesus, right here on earth. Matthew 5: 5. Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth. what's the point in inheriting something if we aren't going to live here, and we get that confirmed in Revelation 5: 10. And has made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth. Now aren't we supposed to be in heaven? Yes and we will be, but if you go back to Genesis 1:8. And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day. Now what is the firmament? our atmosphere, it divides the water below, (which is all the water on earth) from the water (space) above. Stop and think 3500 years ago, how would you describe space to the people of that time? God knew what it was but no body here would be able to understand it, but if you go underwater without an aqua lung or diving suit, your gonna die. If you go into space without a space suit, your gonna die. In water you float, in space you float, space is the water above! that's enough for one night.

 

[JaumeJ]

On the cross, inscribed over our Master's head in Hebrew, Greek, and Latin, was written, "King of the Jews." He is my King.

Thank you for letting me "Try again". You are so gracious. You asked. "In what way was Jesus a Jew?

A: Jesus made it very clear that He was a Jew when He said:

"You [Gentiles] worship what you do not know; we [Jews] know what we [Jews] worship, for salvation is of the Jews” (John 4:22)."

The very first verse of the New Testament clearly proclaims the Jewish ethnicity of Jesus. “The book of the genealogy of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham” (Matthew 1:1). It is evident from passages like Hebrews 7:14, “For it is clear that our Lord descended from Judah,” that Jesus descended from the tribe of Judah, from which we get the name “Jew.”

Maybe you need to 'study' more by reading more. Read more about the fact that Jesus was a Jew. Although not written in 'Greek', but in english, it may help you see that Jesus was a Jew.

Was Jesus a Jew?

 

[Linda70]

Matthew 1:1 The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.

Romans 1:3 Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;

Hebrews 2:16 For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham.

 

[Linda70]

There is only ONE WAY of salvation...for everyone, Jew and Gentile. That ONE WAY is Jesus Christ:

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Romans 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

Romans 10:8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Romans 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
Romans 10:11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
Romans 10:12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
Romans 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Romans 10:14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
Romans 10:15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
Romans 10:16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?
Romans 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

Then there is John 3:16:

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Then we have the Philippian jailor:

Acts 16:25 And at midnight Paul and Silas prayed, and sang praises unto God: and the prisoners heard them.
Acts 16:26 And suddenly there was a great earthquake, so that the foundations of the prison were shaken: and immediately all the doors were opened, and every one's bands were loosed.
Acts 16:27 And the keeper of the prison awaking out of his sleep, and seeing the prison doors open, he drew out his sword, and would have killed himself, supposing that the prisoners had been fled.
Acts 16:28 But Paul cried with a loud voice, saying, Do thyself no harm: for we are all here.
Acts 16:29 Then he called for a light, and sprang in, and came trembling, and fell down before Paul and Silas,
Acts 16:30 And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?
Acts 16:31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

 

[JaumeJ]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Linda70 again.

Passing on inspiration! You are bound to get in trouble, but you know this already.

There is only ONE WAY of salvation...for everyone, Jew and Gentile. That ONE WAY is Jesus Christ:

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Romans 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

Romans 10:8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Romans 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
Romans 10:11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
Romans 10:12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
Romans 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Romans 10:14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
Romans 10:15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
Romans 10:16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?
Romans 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

Then there is John 3:16:

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Then we have the Philippian jailor:

Acts 16:25 And at midnight Paul and Silas prayed, and sang praises unto God: and the prisoners heard them.
Acts 16:26 And suddenly there was a great earthquake, so that the foundations of the prison were shaken: and immediately all the doors were opened, and every one's bands were loosed.
Acts 16:27 And the keeper of the prison awaking out of his sleep, and seeing the prison doors open, he drew out his sword, and would have killed himself, supposing that the prisoners had been fled.
Acts 16:28 But Paul cried with a loud voice, saying, Do thyself no harm: for we are all here.
Acts 16:29 Then he called for a light, and sprang in, and came trembling, and fell down before Paul and Silas,
Acts 16:30 And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?
Acts 16:31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

 

[Elin]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Linda70 again.
Passing on inspiration!
You are bound to get in trouble, but you know this already.

Get in trouble for stating the gospel?

There is only ONE WAY of salvation...for everyone, Jew and Gentile. That ONE WAY is Jesus Christ:

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Romans 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

Romans 10:8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Romans 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
Romans 10:11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
Romans 10:12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
Romans 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Romans 10:14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
Romans 10:15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
Romans 10:16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?
Romans 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

Then there is John 3:16:

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Then we have the Philippian jailor:

Acts 16:25 And at midnight Paul and Silas prayed, and sang praises unto God: and the prisoners heard them.
Acts 16:26 And suddenly there was a great earthquake, so that the foundations of the prison were shaken: and immediately all the doors were opened, and every one's bands were loosed.
Acts 16:27 And the keeper of the prison awaking out of his sleep, and seeing the prison doors open, he drew out his sword, and would have killed himself, supposing that the prisoners had been fled.
Acts 16:28 But Paul cried with a loud voice, saying, Do thyself no harm: for we are all here.
Acts 16:29 Then he called for a light, and sprang in, and came trembling, and fell down before Paul and Silas,
Acts 16:30 And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?
Acts 16:31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

 

[JaumeJ]

You do not seem to understand, so, yes, just as the Master was, so are any who stick to His teaching. If they called the Master beelzabub, think not they will not do the same or worse to His followers...........

Get in trouble for stating the gospel?

 

[Elin]

Get in trouble for stating the gospel?

There is only ONE WAY of salvation...for everyone, Jew and Gentile. That ONE WAY is Jesus Christ:

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Romans 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

Romans 10:8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Romans 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
Romans 10:11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
Romans 10:12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
Romans 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Romans 10:14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
Romans 10:15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
Romans 10:16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?
Romans 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

Then there is John 3:16:

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Then we have the Philippian jailor:

Acts 16:25 And at midnight Paul and Silas prayed, and sang praises unto God: and the prisoners heard them.
Acts 16:26 And suddenly there was a great earthquake, so that the foundations of the prison were shaken: and immediately all the doors were opened, and every one's bands were loosed.
Acts 16:27 And the keeper of the prison awaking out of his sleep, and seeing the prison doors open, he drew out his sword, and would have killed himself, supposing that the prisoners had been fled.
Acts 16:28 But Paul cried with a loud voice, saying, Do thyself no harm: for we are all here.
Acts 16:29 Then he called for a light, and sprang in, and came trembling, and fell down before Paul and Silas,
Acts 16:30 And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?
Acts 16:31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

You do not seem to understand, so, yes, just as the Master was, so are any who stick to His teaching. If they called the Master beelzabub, think not they will not do the same or worse to His followers...........

On a Christain website?

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[JaumeJ]

If you insist, yes, on a Christian website. Don't you read in the Word how Jesus was crucified, and the Apostles and saints of the Lord were tortured and killed? Anywhere in this age there are detractors to the Word, and moreso in a Christian website. Why are you asking these questions? The answers are elemental. Please do not waste your time on such, and work on spreading good will in Jesus Christ. We are supposed to be family, those who claim the Blood of the Lamb of God that is. God bless you.

On a Christain website?

​

 

[Elin]

If you insist, yes, on a Christian website. Don't you read in the Word how Jesus was crucified, and the Apostles and saints of the Lord were tortured and killed? Anywhere in this age there are detractors to the Word, and moreso in a Christian website.
Why are you asking these questions? The answers are elemental. Please do not waste your time on such, and work on spreading good will in Jesus Christ. We are supposed to be family, those who claim the Blood of the Lamb of God that is. God bless you.

It just seems so strange to caution one about stating the gospel on a Christian website.
It seems like an irrelevant concern to me.

 

[Linda70]

2 Timothy 4:1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;
2 Timothy 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
2 Timothy 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
2 Timothy 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.