Those verses shows...Father is God..God is Spirit...Father is Spirit...
Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
This one shows Jesus is the Spirit
so this =
Order of the trinity
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Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
This one shows Jesus is the Spirit
so this =
Re: learn some scripture...
To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]The same was in the beginning with God.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
[SUP]13 [/SUP]Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
The scripture is saying God became flesh and we saw him as the only begotten of the Father...we cannot limit God to man's understanding.
To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]The same was in the beginning with God.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
[SUP]13 [/SUP]Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
The scripture is saying God became flesh and we saw him as the only begotten of the Father...we cannot limit God to man's understanding.
To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
That is why he said...Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.
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5 [/SUP]Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
[SUP]6 [/SUP]Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
[SUP]7 [/SUP]But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
[SUP]8 [/SUP]And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
When a Vice president speaks for for the actual one they are equal but still individually separate
He comes out as a representative of that one
(John 7:29) I (Jesus) know him (GOD), because I am a representative from him, and that One (GOD) sent me.”
Clearly they are separate, God sent Jesus
He didn't send himself?
He comes out as a representative of that one
(John 7:29) I (Jesus) know him (GOD), because I am a representative from him, and that One (GOD) sent me.”
Clearly they are separate, God sent Jesus
He didn't send himself?
[SUP]25 [/SUP]For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
[SUP]26 [/SUP]The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
[SUP]27 [/SUP]For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.
[SUP]28 [/SUP]And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
Re: Dream on...
No argument there...
It is a TRINITARIAN English rendering!
No.
Two different Persons of The Trinity are in view...and The Son makes the third.
Each Person of The Trinity is the ONE God.
Simple.
No argument there...
It is a TRINITARIAN English rendering!
No.
Two different Persons of The Trinity are in view...and The Son makes the third.
Each Person of The Trinity is the ONE God.
Simple.
Start eating...
προσδεχομενοι την μακαριαν ελπιδα και επιφανειαν της δοξης του μεγαλου θεου και σωτηρος ημων χριστου ιησου
προσδεχομενοι την μακαριαν ελπιδα και επιφανειαν της δοξης του μεγαλου θεου και σωτηρος ημων χριστου ιησου
Tardly...
You forgot the intro...
Does not wisdom call? And does not understanding speak? She stands in the top of high places, by the wayside, in the houses of the paths, beside the gates; at the mouth of the city, at the doors, she cries.
(Proverbs 8.1 - 3)
According to your JW logic, then Jesus was actually a woman!
You forgot the intro...
Does not wisdom call? And does not understanding speak? She stands in the top of high places, by the wayside, in the houses of the paths, beside the gates; at the mouth of the city, at the doors, she cries.
(Proverbs 8.1 - 3)
According to your JW logic, then Jesus was actually a woman!
Those verses shows...Father is God..God is Spirit...Father is Spirit...
Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
This one shows Jesus is the Spirit
so this =rubbish. it is not of God
No.
Each Person of The Trinity is NOT the other.
The Trinity already comprehends that The Father is NOT The Son.
You don't even know what The Trinity is.....all you know is that you are against a strawman of your very own creation.
Look at how much time and energy you are wasting fighting a false premise.
Rotflol....!
Shoot, don't y'all know a trick when you see one? I'm a pentecostal minister so you can guess I'm a Oneness believer, but even I recognize the starting post as bait for an argument. Surprising so many people fell for it.
*Lynx goes off to dig his "Please do not feed the trolls" sign out of the closet.
*Lynx goes off to dig his "Please do not feed the trolls" sign out of the closet.
So you are saying Jesus our Lord the Son of God is NOT that Spirit...When the scripture says so.
Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
Who is your Lord? Are you denying this scripture is saying, the spirit of the living God is that spirit of the Lord and our Lord is Christ?
Do we begin again to commend ourselves? or need we, as some others, epistles of commendation to you, or letters of commendation from you? [SUP]2 [/SUP]Ye are our epistle written in our hearts, known and read of all men:
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]And such trust have we through Christ to God-ward:
[SUP]5 [/SUP]Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God;
[SUP]6 [/SUP]Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:
[SUP]8 [/SUP]How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious?
[SUP]9 [/SUP]For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]For even that which was made glorious had no glory in this respect, by reason of the glory that excelleth.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]For if that which is done away was glorious, much more that which remaineth is glorious.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech:
[SUP]13 [/SUP]And not as Moses, which put a veil over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:
[SUP]14 [/SUP]But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away.
[SUP]17 [/SUP]Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
[SUP]18 [/SUP]But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.
Re: Run along...
Does anyone else see the irony? Brother Bowman are you not answering any questions i present to you because you are waiting for me to answer a question you asked two weeks ago? Isn't that kinda childish, i mean not answering any question of mine because i did not answer a question of yours over two weeks ago? i will play along. i always try to answer any question that is given to me, if i have not answered a question you asked me, i apologize to you. So ask me the question again. God is a God of many chances, So if God is in you, you will give me another chance to answer your question. So ask me again, i will answer then maybe you can answer some of the questions i have asked you in return. This is Good yes? communicating? Ask me the question you think i did not answer, so that i may answer it again or for the first time if i have forgotten to answer.
i know i have asked you many questions that you have not replied to at all. That is why i think it is so ironic what you say above.
Love you Brother, can you say the same for me, or will your fingers bleed from typing it? lol that was a joke.
^i^
Does anyone else see the irony? Brother Bowman are you not answering any questions i present to you because you are waiting for me to answer a question you asked two weeks ago? Isn't that kinda childish, i mean not answering any question of mine because i did not answer a question of yours over two weeks ago? i will play along. i always try to answer any question that is given to me, if i have not answered a question you asked me, i apologize to you. So ask me the question again. God is a God of many chances, So if God is in you, you will give me another chance to answer your question. So ask me again, i will answer then maybe you can answer some of the questions i have asked you in return. This is Good yes? communicating? Ask me the question you think i did not answer, so that i may answer it again or for the first time if i have forgotten to answer.
i know i have asked you many questions that you have not replied to at all. That is why i think it is so ironic what you say above.
Love you Brother, can you say the same for me, or will your fingers bleed from typing it? lol that was a joke.
^i^
Re: Run along...
Your next hit-n-run post will occur in ~2 weeks.
Please fulfill your assertion, and provide the scriptures to back it up.
No one wants to wait another two weeks just to hear your same ol' cut-n-paste, whining, self-pity posts...
Your next hit-n-run post will occur in ~2 weeks.
Please fulfill your assertion, and provide the scriptures to back it up.
No one wants to wait another two weeks just to hear your same ol' cut-n-paste, whining, self-pity posts...
So according to your understanding there is no mention of Jesus so I cannot use that passage to prove my point....There is no mention of trinity in the bible so you cannot use the bible to prove the trinity....
You get stuck in verses every so often, and then you go from thread to thread pumping and promoting them like a great big badge of honor.....when, in fact, you don't even know what they mean...not do you have any earthly way to defend them.
Don't you yet know that NO Biblical verse thwarts The Trinity?!
The Trinity already comprehends ALL scripture, from start to finish.
And please....stop using Trinitarian English renderings for YOUR pitiful denial of them....this is called hypocrisy at its finest.