Power in the blood

[just-me]

John 6:53 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.

Luke 22:19-20
19 And he took bread, and gave thanks , and brake it, and gave unto them, saying , This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me. 20 Likewise also the cup after supper , saying , This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you.


If there is “power in the blood” what is wrong with drinking/eating the blood of the sacrifice?


Leviticus 17:10-14

10 And whatsoever man there be of the house of Israel, or of the strangers that sojourn among you, that eateth any manner of blood; I will even set my face against that soul that eateth blood, and will cut him off from among his people.

11 For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul.

12 Therefore I said unto the children of Israel, No soul of you shall eat blood, neither shall any stranger that sojourneth among you eat blood.

13 And whatsoever man there be of the children of Israel, or of the strangers that sojourn among you, which hunteth and catcheth any beast or fowl that may be eaten ; he shall even pour out the blood thereof, and cover it with dust.

14 For it is the life of all flesh; the blood of it is for the life thereof: therefore I said unto the children of Israel, Ye shall eat the blood of no manner of flesh: for the life of all flesh is the blood thereof: whosoever eateth it shall be cut off .

Hebrews 2:14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is , the devil;

What is the spiritual significance of shedding blood? This is the law that Jesus seems to thwart. What is right? What is wrong?

 

[Elin]

John 6:53 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.

Luke 22:19-20
19 And he took bread, and gave thanks , and brake it, and gave unto them, saying , This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me. 20 Likewise also the cup after supper , saying , This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you.

If there is “power in the blood” what is wrong with drinking/eating the blood of the sacrifice?

Blood was given to make atonement, therefore it must not be treated as a common thing (Heb 10:29) and eaten.

Leviticus 17:10-14

10 And whatsoever man there be of the house of Israel, or of the strangers that sojourn among you, that eateth any manner of blood; I will even set my face against that soul that eateth blood, and will cut him off from among his people.

11 For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul.

12 Therefore I said unto the children of Israel, No soul of you shall eat blood, neither shall any stranger that sojourneth among you eat blood.

13 And whatsoever man there be of the children of Israel, or of the strangers that sojourn among you, which hunteth and catcheth any beast or fowl that may be eaten ; he shall even pour out the blood thereof, and cover it with dust.

14 For it is the life of all flesh; the blood of it is for the life thereof: therefore I said unto the children of Israel, Ye shall eat the blood of no manner of flesh: for the life of all flesh is the blood thereof: whosoever eateth it shall be cut off .

The blood with the power to forgive sin had not yet been given (Heb 10:4) in Christ
and could not be eaten (Jn 6:53) until it had.

Hebrews 2:14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is , the devil;

What is the spiritual significance of shedding blood?

It is the death which is the penalty for sin.

This is the law that Jesus seems to thwart.
What is right? What is wrong?

It was forbidden to eat the blood of sacrifice in the OT.
It is commanded to eat the blood of sacrifice in the NT.

 

[just-me]

Good answers Elin. One thing remains that brings the OT and the NT together. The life of the flesh is the blood. The shedding of blood therefore is the killing of the flesh. Consuming the blood in the OT was figuratively the sustenance of the flesh. Drinking the blood and eating the body of Christ is figuratively carrying our cross as He did His. "The Word became flesh."

Luke 9:23 And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily , and follow me.

1 Corinthians 115:31 I protest by your rejoicing which I have in Christ Jesus our Lord, I die daily .

Philippians 2:1-5
1 If there be therefore any consolation in Christ, if any comfort of love, if any fellowship of the Spirit, if any bowels and mercies,
2 Fulfil ye my joy, that ye be likeminded , having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind .
3 Let nothing be done through strife or vainglory; but in lowliness of mind let each esteem other better than themselves.
4 Look not every man on his own things, but every man also on the things of others.
5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:

 

[prove-all]

not quite sure what the question is.

but life is in the blood of creatures, take that away its dead.

God commanded us not to drink it , and it still stands.



Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood,

he also himself likewise took part of the same;


I think this says man is flesh and blood,

and Jesus became flesh and blood.


we are told to drink wine to replace blood.

 

[just-me]

not quite sure what the question is.

but life is in the blood of creatures, take that away its dead.

God commanded us not to drink it , and it still stands.



Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood,

he also himself likewise took part of the same;


I think this says man is flesh and blood,

and Jesus became flesh and blood.


we are told to drink wine to replace blood.

Good point. very good in fact! The dying of the flesh only happens when the blood is extracted for the blood is the life of the flesh.

Colossians 2:11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:

I sound redundant, but as soon as I posted the one previous to your post, I saw your input at that moment. (smile)

 

[chubbena]

The Word spoke though Moses in Deuteronomy 32:46-47 Take to heart all the words I have solemnly declared to you this day, so that you may command your children to obey carefully all the words of this law. They are not just idle words for you—they are your life. By them you will live long in the land you are crossing the Jordan to possess.
The Word came in the flesh.
The Word demonstrated the power of the Word against Satan: "Man does not leave on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God."
The Word spoke through Moses "For the life of a creature is in the blood, and I have given it to you to make atonement for yourselves on the altar; it is the blood that makes atonement for one's life."
His flesh - the bread of life.
His blood - atonement for life.
To drink His blood - to have His life in us i.e. to live by the Word of God and His Word is a lamp to our feet and a light for our path.

 

[Elin]

Good answers Elin. One thing remains that brings the OT and the NT together. The life of the flesh is the blood. The shedding of blood therefore is the killing of the flesh. Consuming the blood in the OT was figuratively the sustenance of the flesh. Drinking the blood and eating the body of Christ is figuratively carrying our cross as He did His. "The Word became flesh."

Luke 9:23 And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily , and follow me.

1 Corinthians 115:31 I protest by your rejoicing which I have in Christ Jesus our Lord, I die daily .

Philippians 2:1-5
1 If there be therefore any consolation in Christ, if any comfort of love, if any fellowship of the Spirit, if any bowels and mercies,
2 Fulfil ye my joy, that ye be likeminded , having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind .
3 Let nothing be done through strife or vainglory; but in lowliness of mind let each esteem other better than themselves.
4 Look not every man on his own things, but every man also on the things of others.
5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:

Thanks, just-me,

I see Christ's sacrifice explained in the Fellowship Offering,
where the offerer took home part of the sacrifice
and the priest kept part of the sacrifice,
both of them eating it in a fellowship meal, with the priest eating his portion in the courtyard,
where he participated in the benefits of the sacrifice.

I think the Lord's Supper is the same thing, where the bread is the flesh of the sacrifice,
which we eat to participate (1Co 10:16 in the benefits of Christ's sacrifice,
the offerer

 

[posthuman]

this may be a little off topic, but i don't fully understand this & find it profound --

A lay person shall not eat of a holy thing; no foreign guest of the priest or hired servant shall eat of a holy thing,
but if a priest buys a slave as his property for money, the slave may eat of it, and anyone born in his house may eat of his food.
(Leviticus 22:10-11)

those things that were given as a sacrifice under the old covenant, the meat and bread were for only the priests to eat, while the blood was poured out for atonement.
but a slave of the priest -- not an hired servant, but an owned​ one -- may also eat what was consecrated for God.

are we His paid servants, or does He own us like slaves? do we work for a wage, or serve Him because it is our life?
you can see that there is a works/grace based salvation gem hidden in this...

if we have an high priest in Christ who has taken us as His slaves, and so according to the law we are able to take of the sacrifice, which is His flesh. He also commands us to drink of His blood, which is poured out or sprinkled to make us clean and for atonement - if our bodies have become His temple, His altar is also within us, where the blood is poured out -

is it that the blood serves two purposes? for atonement, so we are bathed and washed by it, and also as a drink offering? as He said He gives us living water that we don't thirst ever again, and told His disciples they were clean by the word He had spoken to them. but even the priests did not drink the blood!
is this how much more He has offered us than the shadow in the law?

 

[just-me]

Thanks, just-me,

I see Christ's sacrifice explained in the Fellowship Offering,
where the offerer took home part of the sacrifice
and the priest kept part of the sacrifice,
both of them eating it in a fellowship meal, with the priest eating his portion in the courtyard,
where he participated in the benefits of the sacrifice.

I think the Lord's Supper is the same thing, where the bread is the flesh of the sacrifice,
which we eat to participate (1Co 10:16 in the benefits of Christ's sacrifice,
the offerer

Amen!
The priests were to eat the sacrifice for to bear the iniquity of the congregation.

Leviticus 10:16-17
16 And Moses diligently sought the goat of the sin offering, and, behold, it was burnt : and he was angry with Eleazar and Ithamar, the sons of Aaron which were left alive, saying ,
17 Wherefore have ye not eaten the sin offering in the holy place, seeing it is most holy, and God hath given it you to bear the iniquity of the congregation, to make atonement for them before the LORD?

In like manner, Jesus bore our sins on the cross.

1 Peter 2:24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we , being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed .

1 John 4:10 Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.

Revelation 1:5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,

 

[just-me]

this may be a little off topic, but i don't fully understand this & find it profound --

A lay person shall not eat of a holy thing; no foreign guest of the priest or hired servant shall eat of a holy thing,
but if a priest buys a slave as his property for money, the slave may eat of it, and anyone born in his house may eat of his food.
(Leviticus 22:10-11)

those things that were given as a sacrifice under the old covenant, the meat and bread were for only the priests to eat, while the blood was poured out for atonement.
but a slave of the priest -- not an hired servant, but an owned​ one -- may also eat what was consecrated for God.

are we His paid servants, or does He own us like slaves? do we work for a wage, or serve Him because it is our life?
you can see that there is a works/grace based salvation gem hidden in this...

if we have an high priest in Christ who has taken us as His slaves, and so according to the law we are able to take of the sacrifice, which is His flesh. He also commands us to drink of His blood, which is poured out or sprinkled to make us clean and for atonement - if our bodies have become His temple, His altar is also within us, where the blood is poured out -

is it that the blood serves two purposes? for atonement, so we are bathed and washed by it, and also as a drink offering? as He said He gives us living water that we don't thirst ever again, and told His disciples they were clean by the word He had spoken to them. but even the priests did not drink the blood!
is this how much more He has offered us than the shadow in the law?

Good food for thought man. Pun intended. LOL

Jesus, our High Priest purchased us with a price. we then are also in a Holy Priesthood, and are the temple made without hands. It all matches, the law being a shadow of the fulfilled Spiritually speaking.

Acts 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

1 Peter 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:

Mark 14:58 We heard him say , I will destroy this temple that is made with hands, and within three days I will build another made without hands.

1 Corinthians 6:19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?


That's why the writer of Hebrews when talking about the temple, relates all these things of the OT and the NT together.
Hebrews 8:1
1 Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens;
2 A minister of the sanctuary, and of the true tabernacle, which the Lord pitched , and not man.
3 For every high priest is ordained to offer gifts and sacrifices: wherefore it is of necessity that this man have somewhat also to offer .
4 For if he were on earth, he should not be a priest, seeing that there are priests that offer gifts according to the law:
5 Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See , saith he , that thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount.
6 But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.
7 For if that first *covenant (added word that isn't in the original writings) had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.

Verse 7 original script should read as follows, speaking of the physical temple
*For if that firsthad been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.

It is the same in verse 13, for **covenant is also an added word talking about the physical temple.
Hebrews 8:13 In that he saith , A new **covenant, he hath made the first old . Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.
This verse then should read,
**In that he saith , A new he hath made the first old . Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.

Last of all, the added word ***"covenant" is also in chapter 9.
Hebrews 9:1 Then verily the first covenant had also ordinances of divine service, and a worldly sanctuary.

It is the physical temple made with hands that is replaced by the Spiritual temple made without hands. So Hebrews 9:1 then should read as follows.
***Then verily the first had also ordinances of divine service, and a worldly sanctuary.

Great things out Lord has done, and will do with us after we are born again through Him, giving us a new life. It is WONDERFUL for sure!!

 

[thecreationtutor]

It's the death of Christ, not the bleeding of Christ - isn't both of those treated the same - shedding of blood, the sacrificial blood - it's death of the animal - it's the death of Jesus Christ

Some people, like Jermaine actually believe the Hymn over scripture that there is a fountain of Blood in heaven with Jesus' blood

 

[just-me]

It's the death of Christ, not the bleeding of Christ - isn't both of those treated the same - shedding of blood, the sacrificial blood - it's death of the animal - it's the death of Jesus Christ

Some people, like Jermaine actually believe the Hymn over scripture that there is a fountain of Blood in heaven with Jesus' blood

Good point you make. I was raised with the song "power in the blood." The song is true, but I thought as a child it was the power to live. Now I believe it is the shedding of blood that has the power of death to the flesh.

2 Corinthians 2:14-16
14 Now thanks be unto God, which always causeth us to triumph in Christ, and maketh manifest the savour of his knowledge by us in every place.
15 For we are unto God a sweet savour of Christ, in them that are saved , and in them that perish :
16 To the one we are the savour of death unto death; and to the other the savour of life unto life. And who is sufficient for these things?

Leviticus 17:6 And the priest shall sprinkle the blood upon the altar of the LORD at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, and burn the fat for a sweet savour unto the LORD.

Romans 12:1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.

 

[thecreationtutor]

Good point you make. I was raised with the song "power in the blood." The song is true, but I thought as a child it was the power to live. Now I believe it is the shedding of blood that has the power of death to the flesh.

Victory over sin, the flesh, the natural inclination towards our evil desires - absolutely

Hymn theology and reminiscent Christianity are 2 things i worry about when I was reading the post but the power over Sin - totally

fresh adoration in this day that God is doing - I like "o the blood' - kari jobe
[video=youtube;kC59rgmcu34]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kC59rgmcu34[/video]

 

[just-me]

Tears of joy when listening to that song "THANK YOU LORD....... THANK YOU!!!

 

[just-me]

God Leads Us Along

 

[JaumeJ]

Life is in the blood, if we partake of the Blood of Christ,we have Life indeed. I we live as best we are given as He lived, we are truly partaking of His Blood, amen.

 

[Elin]

Thanks, just-me,

I see Christ's sacrifice explained in the Fellowship Offering,
where the offerer took home part of the sacrifice
and the priest kept part of the sacrifice,
both of them eating it in a fellowship meal, with the priest eating his portion in the courtyard,
where the offerer fellowshipped with God and the priest who offered the sacrifice.

I think the Lord's Supper is the same thing, where the bread is the flesh of the sacrifice,
which we eat to participate (1Co 10:16 in the benefits of Christ's sacrifice--
fellowship with God in Christ, the priest who offered it.

Amen!

The priests were to eat the sacrifice for to bear the iniquity of the congregation.

Actually, not in the fellowship offering, that was in the sin offering.

In the fellowship offering, it was as mediator for fellowship between God and the sinner

Leviticus 10:16-17
16 And Moses diligently sought the goat of the sin offering, and, behold, it was burnt : and he was angry with Eleazar and Ithamar, the sons of Aaron which were left alive, saying ,
17 Wherefore have ye not eaten the sin offering in the holy place, seeing it is most holy, and God hath given it you to bear the iniquity of the congregation, to make atonement for them before the LORD?

In like manner, Jesus bore our sins on the cross.

1 Peter 2:24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we , being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed .

1 John 4:10 Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.

Revelation 1:5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,

Yes, Lev 10:16-17 refer to the sin offering, not the fellowship offering.

 

[Elin]

It's the death of Christ, not the bleeding of Christ - isn't both of those treated the same - shedding of blood, the sacrificial blood - it's death of the animal - it's the death of Jesus Christ

Some people, like Jermaine actually believe the Hymn over scripture that there is a fountain of Blood in heaven with Jesus' blood

Yes, it is the death of Christ.

Shedding of the blood is death.

 

[Elin]

Life is in the blood, if we partake of the Blood of Christ,we have Life indeed. I we live as best we are given as He lived, we are truly partaking of His Blood, amen.

Actually, that is what the Lord's Supper is to those who are born again.

 

[Elin]

this may be a little off topic, but i don't fully understand this & find it profound --

A lay person shall not eat of a holy thing; no foreign guest of the priest or hired servant shall eat of a holy thing,
but if a priest buys a slave as his property for money, the slave may eat of it, and anyone born in his house may eat of his food.
(Leviticus 22:10-11)

those things that were given as a sacrifice under the old covenant, the meat and bread were for only the priests to eat, while the blood was poured out for atonement.
but a slave of the priest -- not an hired servant, but an owned​ one --
may also eat what was consecrated for God.

If I may propose that family is the issue here, not slavery.

First of all, the subject here is the sacrifices.
Secondly, slaves were members of the household, just as family was.

No one outside the household of the priest could eat the sacrifices, just as in the NT,
no one outside the household of God (Eph 2:19) can eat the NT sacrifice (Lord's Supper)
because they do not recognize the body of the Lord (as their sacrifice for sin)--1Co 11:29.

It was the duty of the priests (vv. 15-16) to keep the Israelites from bringing guilt (v.14)
upon themselves by eating the sacrifices,
for to eat the sacrifice was to take the guilt into themselves (Lev 10:17),
and the people must not bear their own guilt, only the priest was to bear their guilt.

Anyone see any pictures/symbols here?

So slaves of the priest could eat the sacrifices, but the Israelites could not.