It Is satanic Heresy to Deny Eternal Security
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You have never established any of your mistaken concepts, Ricky.
Show me one verse where anyone ever is said to stop believing in the Lord Jesus as Savior to eternal life. "Lose faith" never occurs in the Bible. But on the contrary, we see the Lord Jesus praying for Peter that Peter's faith fail not. Do you suppose that the Lord Jesus who makes intercession for believers is refused his requests for Christians? Born again children of God may indeed fail to trust the Lord in some situation, but we don't find their trusting the Lord for their eternal destiny ever stopping. Peter trusted the Lord enough to get out of the boat and walk on the water. He faltered, but an arm grabbed ahold of Him.
Can you stop being the son of your earthly father? No more could I stop being a child of my wonderful Father.
I trust the Lord JEsus as my SAvior, not as my "chance-giver." I believe His word:
I give them eternal life, & they shall never perish. Thou shalt call His name Jesus, for He shall save HIs people from their sins. He Who began a good work in you will complete it.
Now Ricky, what have you got against trusting the Lord Jesus as your Savior? Will you continue to insist that He is no Savior all the way to the Lake of Fire? Will you go buy asbestos undies?
Foreknew>Foreordained>Called>Justified>Glorified!
Nothing present, no thing to come can separate the believer from that special love in Christ Jesus.
He who began a good work in you will complete it.
Thou shalt call His name Jesus,
for He shall save His people from their sins.
Show me one verse where anyone ever is said to stop believing in the Lord Jesus as Savior to eternal life. "Lose faith" never occurs in the Bible. But on the contrary, we see the Lord Jesus praying for Peter that Peter's faith fail not. Do you suppose that the Lord Jesus who makes intercession for believers is refused his requests for Christians? Born again children of God may indeed fail to trust the Lord in some situation, but we don't find their trusting the Lord for their eternal destiny ever stopping. Peter trusted the Lord enough to get out of the boat and walk on the water. He faltered, but an arm grabbed ahold of Him.
Can you stop being the son of your earthly father? No more could I stop being a child of my wonderful Father.
I trust the Lord JEsus as my SAvior, not as my "chance-giver." I believe His word:
I give them eternal life, & they shall never perish. Thou shalt call His name Jesus, for He shall save HIs people from their sins. He Who began a good work in you will complete it.
Now Ricky, what have you got against trusting the Lord Jesus as your Savior? Will you continue to insist that He is no Savior all the way to the Lake of Fire? Will you go buy asbestos undies?
Foreknew>Foreordained>Called>Justified>Glorified!
Nothing present, no thing to come can separate the believer from that special love in Christ Jesus.
He who began a good work in you will complete it.
Thou shalt call His name Jesus,
for He shall save His people from their sins.
K
Titus 1:16
They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate
Matthew 25:44-46
[SUP] [/SUP]Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?
Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.
And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate
Matthew 25:44-46
[SUP] [/SUP]Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?
Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.
And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
Good verses, none of which mention save or salvation. Neither does the passage tell how you get changed from being a sinner to being righteous.
Salvation is for sinners, persons who deny God, who deny the Savior & salvation (bad-mouthing the Savior as a mere "chance-giver") who are abominable, disobedient, unto every good work reprobate. These all are invited to drop claims of self-righteousness, plead spiritual bankruptcy, and trust the Savior to do the saving.
Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, & you shall be saved, saved from sins like self-righteousness and being persons who persons who deny God, who deny the Savior & salvation (bad-mouthing the Savior as a mere "chance-giver," who are abominable, disobedient, unto every good work reprobate.
Mat 25 judges sheep & goat gentiles for how they treated Christ's brethren during the Tribulation:
Matt. 25:31
But when the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the angels with him, then shall he sit on the throne of his glory: 32 and before him shall be gathered all the nations [gentile nations]: and he shall separate them one from another, as the shepherd separateth the sheep from the goats; 33 and he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left. 34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: . . . .
Then shall they [gentiles of the Tribulation] also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee [Christ's brethren] an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee [Christ's brethren]?
Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these [my brethren], ye did it not to me.
This is not the plan of salvation. Mat 25 doesn't mention save or salvation even once.
For by grace you have been saved through faith,
& that not of yourselves, not of works lest anyone should boast.
Thou shalt call his name Jesus,
for He shall save His people from their sins.
Salvation is for sinners, persons who deny God, who deny the Savior & salvation (bad-mouthing the Savior as a mere "chance-giver") who are abominable, disobedient, unto every good work reprobate. These all are invited to drop claims of self-righteousness, plead spiritual bankruptcy, and trust the Savior to do the saving.
Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, & you shall be saved, saved from sins like self-righteousness and being persons who persons who deny God, who deny the Savior & salvation (bad-mouthing the Savior as a mere "chance-giver," who are abominable, disobedient, unto every good work reprobate.
Mat 25 judges sheep & goat gentiles for how they treated Christ's brethren during the Tribulation:
Matt. 25:31
But when the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the angels with him, then shall he sit on the throne of his glory: 32 and before him shall be gathered all the nations [gentile nations]: and he shall separate them one from another, as the shepherd separateth the sheep from the goats; 33 and he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left. 34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: . . . .
Then shall they [gentiles of the Tribulation] also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee [Christ's brethren] an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee [Christ's brethren]?
Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these [my brethren], ye did it not to me.
This is not the plan of salvation. Mat 25 doesn't mention save or salvation even once.
For by grace you have been saved through faith,
& that not of yourselves, not of works lest anyone should boast.
Thou shalt call his name Jesus,
for He shall save His people from their sins.
None of those verses say anyone loses salvation.
Repent of your disbelief in salvation, your relegation of the Lord Jesus to a mere chance giver.
Thou shalt call His name Jesus,
For He shall save HIs people from their sins.
Repent of denying the gospel.
I give them eternal life, & they shall never perish. Thou shalt call His name Jesus, for He shall save HIs people from their sins. He Who began a good work in you will complete it.
Now Ricky, what have you got against trusting the Lord Jesus as your Savior? Will you continue to insist that He is no Savior all the way to the Lake of Fire? Will you go buy asbestos undies?
Foreknew>Foreordained>Called>Justified>Glorified!
Nothing present, no thing to come can separate the believer from that special love in Christ Jesus.
He who began a good work in you will complete it.
Thou shalt call His name Jesus,
for He shall save His people from their sins.
Repent of your disbelief in salvation, your relegation of the Lord Jesus to a mere chance giver.
Thou shalt call His name Jesus,
For He shall save HIs people from their sins.
Repent of denying the gospel.
I give them eternal life, & they shall never perish. Thou shalt call His name Jesus, for He shall save HIs people from their sins. He Who began a good work in you will complete it.
Now Ricky, what have you got against trusting the Lord Jesus as your Savior? Will you continue to insist that He is no Savior all the way to the Lake of Fire? Will you go buy asbestos undies?
Foreknew>Foreordained>Called>Justified>Glorified!
Nothing present, no thing to come can separate the believer from that special love in Christ Jesus.
He who began a good work in you will complete it.
Thou shalt call His name Jesus,
for He shall save His people from their sins.
Dear Ricky,
If you wish to be with the Lord in glory, enjoying His company, you simply must trust Him as Savior. There is no promise of salvation for those who deem Him a chance-giver.
Can you not bring yourself to depend on Him for your eternal destiny?
You don't believe that He saves His people from their sins?
If you wish to be with the Lord in glory, enjoying His company, you simply must trust Him as Savior. There is no promise of salvation for those who deem Him a chance-giver.
Can you not bring yourself to depend on Him for your eternal destiny?
You don't believe that He saves His people from their sins?
You do have the most bizarre religion and interpretation of scripture. You are truly one of a kind which confirms that what you say is false. Christianity has had the same understanding of scripture for 2000 years and your view cannot even be found in the ballpark.
You have repeated your mantra that goes nowhere. You have established your own strawman to knok down instead of interacting with the responses which have clearly shown the meaning of scripture while showing that your view is not scriptural.
You have repeated your mantra that goes nowhere. You have established your own strawman to knok down instead of interacting with the responses which have clearly shown the meaning of scripture while showing that your view is not scriptural.