Is your house build on the rock or sand?
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I'm not going to waste much of my time trying to rewrite something that you'll reject anyway, seeing you are steeped in your own thinking, as I lost the whole thing, 'cause I got cut off.
Wheelchair and sicknesses, The prayer of faith SHALL save the sick.
Small children having cancer, and the like, the parents need to repent, confess the sin that got the child sick, then pray the prayer of faith, and the child shall be healed.
Simple.
Wheelchair and sicknesses, The prayer of faith SHALL save the sick.
Small children having cancer, and the like, the parents need to repent, confess the sin that got the child sick, then pray the prayer of faith, and the child shall be healed.
Simple.
I understand that. I appreciate your time and I'm sorry it got cut off. God sometimes allows us to go through things for many different reasons. Not always punishments. You may lose your child so that you can understand how to get someone through their pain. You may lose your legs in a boating accident to learn how to be a beacon of hope for others. Etc. Life is far more complex than any of us could possibly comprehend. In the end we love and glorify God and consider it all joy. I may get sick with cancer and die just to show my family that they truly don't have to fear death, or maybe it's to put me beside a man who is laying beside me fearing his own fate. In the grand scheme of things what we consider a plight could be a blessing in disguise. God may giving us the chance to TRULY serve Him. He gives His toughest missions to His strongest soldiers.
All the things you mention are a result of the curse of God due to sin.
Deu 30:19 I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore [you] choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:
You are accepting all things as though it is God's will, expecting you to do nothing but go through life with a smile on your face to show how humble you are.
Where is the good fight of faith I read about in the bible.
Again, what is your house built on? God's word or what ever happens, happens, it is the will of God.
God's will is His word.
Mar 11:22 And Jesus answering saith unto them, Have faith in God.
Mar 11:23 For verily I say unto you, That whosoever shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; and shall not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which he saith shall come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith.
Mar 11:24 Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them.
Deu 30:19 I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore [you] choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:
You are accepting all things as though it is God's will, expecting you to do nothing but go through life with a smile on your face to show how humble you are.
Where is the good fight of faith I read about in the bible.
Again, what is your house built on? God's word or what ever happens, happens, it is the will of God.
God's will is His word.
Mar 11:22 And Jesus answering saith unto them, Have faith in God.
Mar 11:23 For verily I say unto you, That whosoever shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; and shall not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which he saith shall come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith.
Mar 11:24 Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them.
I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me/ God's peace surpasses understanding/Consider it all joy.
So what then if I get sick? Watchmen Nee got sick, and he prayed for healing. It didn't come. It wasn't until he decided that God cannot lie so the symptoms were the lie and he refused to acknowledge them and they went away and he felt wonderful. Was it because he sinned? or was it because God was testing his faith?
I find it interesting that we are so fast to put God in a box. "He will always do this- or- He will never do that." Who are we to decide that which God will or will not do? are we to judge God? what if He did?
God's ways are higher than our ways.
I know the power of prayer. I know that when we pray without doubt there is power in Jesus Christ.
On that note- He has different purposes for different people.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]Be careful for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]Those things, which ye have both learned, and received, and heard, and seen in me, do: and the God of peace shall be with you.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]But I rejoiced in the Lord greatly, that now at the last your care of me hath flourished again; wherein ye were also careful, but ye lacked opportunity.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]Not that I speak in respect of want: for I have learned, in whatsoever state I am, therewith to be content.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]I know both how to be abased, and I know how to abound: every where and in all things I am instructed both to be full and to be hungry, both to abound and to suffer need.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]Notwithstanding ye have well done, that ye did communicate with my affliction.
John 9
His disciples asked him, "Teacher, whose sin caused him to be born blind? Was it his own or his parents' sin?" 3 Jesus answered, "His blindness has nothing to do with his sins or his parents' sins. He is blind so that God's power might be seen at work in him.
Is this the exception? No, God's ways are higher than ours.
Sir, I just wrote what God said, I'm not the one who is making excuses, putting Him in a box, so to speak.
Why does everyone tell me about other's failures to receive from God.
You either base your faith on what others have said or on the word of God.
The word of God is what told me what God will do. I'ld much rather believe what He wrote than what you or anyone says if it is contrary to what is written.
God's word is the rock in which I build my foundation, NOT peoples testimonies of how God didn't do something for them when they prayed.
I talked to an former Christian who turned atheist because he based his faith on personal experiences.
Why does everyone tell me about other's failures to receive from God.
You either base your faith on what others have said or on the word of God.
The word of God is what told me what God will do. I'ld much rather believe what He wrote than what you or anyone says if it is contrary to what is written.
God's word is the rock in which I build my foundation, NOT peoples testimonies of how God didn't do something for them when they prayed.
I talked to an former Christian who turned atheist because he based his faith on personal experiences.
There really is no point to argue. You are convinced that God wouldn't let any of His people go through hardships. It's a very mean statement as there are people who are crippled who would doubt their relationship with God. I've seen "holy men" try to cast out demons and the demons didn't even flinch in the men. I think love and patience is the best way to go about it. I don't expect to do nothing. I am the opposite sir, on the other hand I accept all adversity. This world is temporary and there is nothing that can be taken away from me. Render me crippled, take my sight, kill me in a car accident (like David Wilkerson) it matters not, I will glorify God and do all that He asks of me.
As far as personal experience with God. Yes I have them and I would hope that you do as well. I only became a christian due to those personal experiences. it was never a preacher or the bible that did it. God used the bible but only by interacting with me to begin with. I was perfectly content to not think about God or anything to do with Him.
I won't budge in the fact that I believe bad things can still happen to christians and it doesn't have to mean we have a lack of faith. That is what I believe and I will strengthen and lift up my brothers who go through adversity and trials. Believe what you will, I am not arguing with the bible, I just think that you are taking it out of context. As an ALL or NOTHING kind of deal. You should really go and heal the sick.
As far as personal experience with God. Yes I have them and I would hope that you do as well. I only became a christian due to those personal experiences. it was never a preacher or the bible that did it. God used the bible but only by interacting with me to begin with. I was perfectly content to not think about God or anything to do with Him.
I won't budge in the fact that I believe bad things can still happen to christians and it doesn't have to mean we have a lack of faith. That is what I believe and I will strengthen and lift up my brothers who go through adversity and trials. Believe what you will, I am not arguing with the bible, I just think that you are taking it out of context. As an ALL or NOTHING kind of deal. You should really go and heal the sick.
I didn't say that if bad things happen to Christians that they don't have or they lack faith, I said they don't have faith if they don't know what God's will is and if they just accept everything as though it's God's will. What ever happens is God's will kind of thing.
You are missing the whole point.
There would be no fight of faith if there were no adversities. Faith does not accept the adversity, it fights against it, and in most cases, it's no small fight, nor is it a short one at that.
Have you ever seen two dogs fight? They give it there all until they either win or have no more to give and get out if they can. We need to fight the fight of faith like that in order to win.
Yes, bad things happen to Christians just like the world, but we don't have to accept them and just role over and die.
There is no glory to God in that.
You are missing the whole point.
There would be no fight of faith if there were no adversities. Faith does not accept the adversity, it fights against it, and in most cases, it's no small fight, nor is it a short one at that.
Have you ever seen two dogs fight? They give it there all until they either win or have no more to give and get out if they can. We need to fight the fight of faith like that in order to win.
Yes, bad things happen to Christians just like the world, but we don't have to accept them and just role over and die.
There is no glory to God in that.
To reject facebook 'likes' and to encourage sound doctrine knowledge faith acknowledgement with one another together united in CHRIST, i would want to rather assist you brethren and for the sake of the Kingdom regarding the New Covenant words of JESUS,they are of spirit and life for every lambs and sheep of HIS to 'abide', that;
"Come into the Light(words of eternal life according to the New Covenant) while the Light is still with you, so that when 'gross darkness' takes over you will not stumble"
Anyone wants their eternal life foundation to be rooted to the 'rock', as how the 'cedar' at the steeps of the mountains, where their roots dig down deep and get itself rooted to the rocks below the same ground?
Then, thus says the LORD JESUS CHRIST, the author and finisher of our New Covenant Spiritual knowledge and spirit and life faith and is written for those who have been born from above, not only by water but also by the HOLY SPIRIT, to least be in ignorance and add/supplement to their initial given as a gift of GOD faith and enter through the words of eternal life of JESUS that;
"If you have ears, listen and pay attention."
"It is the SPIRIT who gives life and the flesh is of no avail, The words I speak are spirit and life."
"Whoever eats of me and drinks of Me, will not hunger nor thirst again."
Please take note by the Help of the HOLY SPIRIT to the two Covenants GOD made with HIS rescued people, that promises order and security sealed for the future.
'GOD first of all, gives HIS words of assurances to HIS redeemed people through Moses and also later and final through HIS SON, JESUS, which is for order and security and is sealed for the future, yet then further also concludes in the same passage or passages that, 'if' / 'Unless', they 'Obey' / 'Keep' / 'Abide" / Continue'....................................................., ' be founded in them and then lay that same foundation on the rock(focused on HIS promised future).'
"Come into the Light(words of eternal life according to the New Covenant) while the Light is still with you, so that when 'gross darkness' takes over you will not stumble"
Anyone wants their eternal life foundation to be rooted to the 'rock', as how the 'cedar' at the steeps of the mountains, where their roots dig down deep and get itself rooted to the rocks below the same ground?
Then, thus says the LORD JESUS CHRIST, the author and finisher of our New Covenant Spiritual knowledge and spirit and life faith and is written for those who have been born from above, not only by water but also by the HOLY SPIRIT, to least be in ignorance and add/supplement to their initial given as a gift of GOD faith and enter through the words of eternal life of JESUS that;
"If you have ears, listen and pay attention."
"It is the SPIRIT who gives life and the flesh is of no avail, The words I speak are spirit and life."
"Whoever eats of me and drinks of Me, will not hunger nor thirst again."
Please take note by the Help of the HOLY SPIRIT to the two Covenants GOD made with HIS rescued people, that promises order and security sealed for the future.
'GOD first of all, gives HIS words of assurances to HIS redeemed people through Moses and also later and final through HIS SON, JESUS, which is for order and security and is sealed for the future, yet then further also concludes in the same passage or passages that, 'if' / 'Unless', they 'Obey' / 'Keep' / 'Abide" / Continue'....................................................., ' be founded in them and then lay that same foundation on the rock(focused on HIS promised future).'
I agree with that entire statement. I don't know how you figured I wasn't a take action kinda guy. I take action but I retain peace and a sense of acceptance. I have and will risk my life just for the chance to help save someone. It takes a certain acceptance to remain calm in precarious situations. I accept a car can blow up while I'm trying to get someone out as it burns. I accept the shale can give out beneath my feet as I climb. Glory be to God the shale never gave out. He delivers us in our moment of need, but it is important to me to accept that God's will for any given situation may be more complex than I realize. As such I am just His servant and I trust Him do do as He will. 
I am not a sit back kind of guy though brother. Sorry if I came across that way.
I am not a sit back kind of guy though brother. Sorry if I came across that way.