Three Days and Three Nights

john832 · Mar 27, 2014

From Bullinger's

Matthew 27:45

the sixth hour. Noon. See App-165.

Again from Bullinger's...

John 19:14

the preparation: i.e. the day before the Passover was eaten "at even" on the 14th Nisan. All four Gospels state that our Lord was entombed on the Preparation Day (verses: Joh_19:31, Joh_19:42. Mat_27:62. Mar_15:42. Luk_23:54). See App-165.

the sixth hour: i.e. midnight. The hours in all the Gospels are according to Hebrew reckoning: i.e. from sunset to sunset. See App-156. Some have thought that the events from Joh_13:1 could not be crowded into so brief a space, but the Jews were in deadly earnest to get all finished before the Passover, and in such a case events move quickly.

There are two different time references used and it is explained here...

Passover paper: John 19:14 and the Sixth Hour

I will not C&P it because it is rather lengthy, but it gives a very good explanation of the different times used.

just-me · Mar 27, 2014

john832 said:

So am I right in saying that Jesus saw Pilate around midnight when the people congregated together, and he told them "behold your king" in the darkness of night when the people normally would have been sleeping?
Mark 15:8-14 (KJV)
[SUP]8 [/SUP]And the multitude crying aloud began to desire him to do as he had ever done unto them.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]But Pilate answered them, saying, Will ye that I release unto you the King of the Jews?
[SUP]10 [/SUP]For he knew that the chief priests had delivered him for envy.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]But the chief priests moved the people, that he should rather release Barabbas unto them.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]And Pilate answered and said again unto them, What will ye then that I shall do unto him whom ye call the King of the Jews?
[SUP]13 [/SUP]And they cried out again, Crucify him.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]Then Pilate said unto them, Why, what evil hath he done? And they cried out the more exceedingly, Crucify him.

John 19:14-17 (KJV)
[SUP]14 [/SUP]And it was the preparation of the passover, and about the sixth hour: and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King!
[SUP]15 [/SUP]But they cried out, Away with him, away with him, crucify him. Pilate saith unto them, Shall I crucify your King? The chief priests answered, We have no king but Caesar.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]Then delivered he him therefore unto them to be crucified. And they took Jesus, and led him away.
[SUP]17 [/SUP]And he bearing his cross went forth into a place called the place of a skull, which is called in the Hebrew Golgotha:

So if I have this right, at midnight Pilate made His political choice about Jesus, and they waited 9 hours and then nailed Jesus to the cross?

john832 · Mar 27, 2014

just-me said:

Uh, didn't they send Him back and forth between Herod and Pilate?

Luk 23:4 So Pilate said to the chief priests and the crowd, "I find no fault in this Man."
Luk 23:5 But they were the more fierce, saying, "He stirs up the people, teaching throughout all Judea, beginning from Galilee to this place."
Luk 23:6 When Pilate heard of Galilee, he asked if the Man were a Galilean.
Luk 23:7 And as soon as he knew that He belonged to Herod's jurisdiction, he sent Him to Herod, who was also in Jerusalem at that time.
Luk 23:8 Now when Herod saw Jesus, he was exceedingly glad; for he had desired for a long time to see Him, because he had heard many things about Him, and he hoped to see some miracle done by Him.
Luk 23:9 Then he questioned Him with many words, but He answered him nothing.
Luk 23:10 And the chief priests and scribes stood and vehemently accused Him.
Luk 23:11 Then Herod, with his men of war, treated Him with contempt and mocked Him, arrayed Him in a gorgeous robe, and sent Him back to Pilate.

Herod spent considerable time questioning Him.

He was beaten so badly He possibly could have died from the beating alone...

Isa 52:13 Behold, My Servant shall deal prudently; He shall be exalted and extolled and be very high.
Isa 52:14 Just as many were astonished at you, So His visage was marred more than any man, And His form more than the sons of men;
Isa 52:15 So shall He sprinkle many nations. Kings shall shut their mouths at Him; For what had not been told them they shall see, And what they had not heard they shall consider.

He was beaten so badly the blood sprinkled from Him and you could not recognize His face.

What do you think, this all occurred in 15 minutes? Or did it take several hours?

peacefulbeliever · Mar 27, 2014

Concerning "time" - Jewish time in relation to Roman time: 1st hour = 6 to 8am; 2nd hour = 8-9am; 3rd hour = 9-10am; 4th hour = 10-11am; 5th hour = 11-12pm; 6th hour = noon-1pm; 7th hour = 1-2pm 8th hour = 2-3pm; 9th hour = 3-4pm; 10th hour = 4-5pm; 11th hour = 5-6pm; 12th hour = 6pm to sundown (Jewish Time Divisions in the 1st Century AD; Agape Bible Study)

And this would seem to fit with these verses in Matt. 20:3 - And he (Jesus) went out about the third hour (9-10am) and saw others standing idle in the marketplace, And said unto them; go ye also into the vineyard, and whatsoever is right I will give to you and they went their way. Again he went out about the sixth (noon-1pm) and ninth hour (3-4pm) and did likewise. And about the eleventh hour (5-6pm) he went out and found others standing idle, and saith unto them, Why stand ye here all the day idle.

If the sixth hour was midnight - why would people be working in the vineyards?

Also I have a question: John 19:14 And it was the preparation of the passover, and about the sixth hour (noon): was when Pilate said "Behold your King" and delivered Jesus to be crucified. Did his torture and sufferings last from the sixth hour (noon) until the third hour (9-10am) the following day when Mark 15:25 says he was crucified? I know there was a lot of time in between but I guess it didn't seem like it just by reading the scripture. Oh, and John I apologize for the argument concerning the "third hour". I just couldn't coincide the "third hour" with the "sixth hour" that Pilate delivered Jesus to be crucified.

just-me · Mar 27, 2014

We are getting off track so this is my last post on the sixth hour thing.

John 19:14 sixth hour - Another King James Bible Believer

When we compare all the events from the arrest to the crucifixion in Matthew 26:30 thru 27:50; Mark 14:17 thru 15:38; Luke 22:1 thru 23:46 and John18:1 thru 19:30 what we see is that Jesus and the apostles celebrated their Passover meal in the evening. Then they went directly to the garden of Gethsemane in the mount of Olives where Jesus prayed but the disciples fell asleep because they were so tired. While is was yet very early in the morning (around 2:00 to 3:00 a.m.?) the multitude sent from the chief priests and elders came “with lanterns and torches” John 18:3 (still very dark). Then He was taken to the Caiaphas to be examined, and this took a good while itself - "And about the space of one hour after another confidently affirmed, saying (regarding Peter) Of a truth this fellow also was with him:for he is a Galilaean. And Peter said, Man, I know not what thou sayest. And immediately, while he yet spake,the cock crew." Luke 22:59 - 60 -roosters crow at the beginning of the day. Then the Lord Jesus was sent to Pilate who interviewed Him who then sent Him to Herod who talked to him for awhile and then Herod sent Him back to Pilate once again. Just read the Scriptures together and we can see that all these events could easily have taken up to six hours before Pilate presents the Lord before the multitudes who finally give out that fateful sentence of “Crucify him!”

peacefulbeliever · Mar 27, 2014

I thought about this on the way home from work and it dawned on me that I was not even taking into consideration the pm hours.

Jesus sat at the Last Supper on the 13th of Nisan. He then went to the mount of Olives, then to the Garden of Gethsemane - it was after his prayer here that the Roman band of soldiers, the chief priest and elders of the people came and took him to Annas (John 18:13). Annas sent him bound to Caiaphus. Jesus was then led from Caiaphus unto the hall of judgement and the governor - Pilate. From Pilate to Herod where Herod's men mocked him and arrayed him in a gorgeous robe and sent him again to Pilate. John 19:14 Pilate delivered Jesus to be crucified at the sixth hour @ midnight. So the trial and torture lasted from sunset Tuesday the 13th of Nisan through to 6:00am the beginning of Wednesday the 14th of Nisan.

Jesus was crucified @ the 3rd hour - 9:00 am on the 14th of Nisan. He hung on the cross for six hours - from the sixth hour [here the sixth hour is noon (12:00pm)] to the ninth hour (3pm) the land was covered with darkness.
John 19:31 Still the preparation - the next day was a Special Sabbath, a high day (Feast of unleavened bread also call the Passover Luke 22:1) so they had to be taken down and everything concerning his burial was accomplished by midnight the 14th of Nisan (Exodus 12:23,24) fulfilling Exodus 12.

Anyway that's my take on it - Now it makes total sense and I am not getting confused any more, but that's enough for me to. Sometimes we can think something to death! I have enjoyed this though - John and Just-me - it really made me think.

dcontroversal · Mar 27, 2014

john832 said:

Let's look at this my friend,

He ate the Passover and instituted the N.T. symbols, the bread and wine on Tuesday evening during the beginning hours of the Passover. Later that night He went to the Mt. of Olives and was taken...

Mat 26:31 Then saith Jesus unto them, All ye shall be offended because of me this night: for it is written, I will smite the shepherd, and the sheep of the flock shall be scattered abroad.

Same night, Tuesday nighttime by our clocks He went to the Mt. of Olives...

Mat 26:45 Then cometh he to his disciples, and saith unto them, Sleep on now, and take your rest: behold, the hour is at hand, and the Son of man is betrayed into the hands of sinners.
Mat 26:46 Rise, let us be going: behold, he is at hand that doth betray me.
Mat 26:47 And while he yet spake, lo, Judas, one of the twelve, came, and with him a great multitude with swords and staves, from the chief priests and elders of the people.

Same night, Tuesday night/Wednesday morning (before daylight).

Mat 26:55 In that same hour said Jesus to the multitudes, Are ye come out as against a thief with swords and staves for to take me? I sat daily with you teaching in the temple, and ye laid no hold on me.
Mat 26:56 But all this was done, that the scriptures of the prophets might be fulfilled. Then all the disciples forsook him, and fled.
Mat 26:57 And they that had laid hold on Jesus led him away to Caiaphas the high priest, where the scribes and the elders were assembled.

Mat 27:1 When the morning was come, all the chief priests and elders of the people took counsel against Jesus to put him to death:
Mat 27:2 And when they had bound him, they led him away, and delivered him to Pontius Pilate the governor.

Wednesday morning, 25th April 31AD, the daylight portion of the Passover.

Mat 27:24 When Pilate saw that he could prevail nothing, but that rather a tumult was made, he took water, and washed his hands before the multitude, saying, I am innocent of the blood of this just person: see ye to it.
Mat 27:25 Then answered all the people, and said, His blood be on us, and on our children.
Mat 27:26 Then released he Barabbas unto them: and when he had scourged Jesus, he delivered him to be crucified.
Mat 27:27 Then the soldiers of the governor took Jesus into the common hall, and gathered unto him the whole band of soldiers.
Mat 27:28 And they stripped him, and put on him a scarlet robe.
Mat 27:29 And when they had platted a crown of thorns, they put it upon his head, and a reed in his right hand: and they bowed the knee before him, and mocked him, saying, Hail, King of the Jews!
Mat 27:30 And they spit upon him, and took the reed, and smote him on the head.
Mat 27:31 And after that they had mocked him, they took the robe off from him, and put his own raiment on him, and led him away to crucify him.

Still Wednesday morning, He is led away to be crucified...

Mar 15:25 And it was the third hour, and they crucified him.

Third hour is 9:00AM

Mar 15:33 And when the sixth hour was come, there was darkness over the whole land until the ninth hour.

Noon.

Luk 23:44 And it was about the sixth hour, and there was a darkness over all the earth until the ninth hour.
Luk 23:45 And the sun was darkened, and the veil of the temple was rent in the midst.
Luk 23:46 And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost.

Christ died at about 3:00pm. The same hour the Jews were killing the Lambs.

Luk 23:54 And that day was the preparation, and the sabbath drew on.

And here is where many make the mistake of assuming this is the weekly Sabbath. It is not...

Joh 19:31 The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.

The High Day here is the First Day of Unleavened Bread...

Lev 23:5 In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the LORD'S passover.
Lev 23:6 And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread unto the LORD: seven days ye must eat unleavened bread.

So He was buried just before sunset on Wednesday. Just before the annual Sabbath, the High Day, known as the First Day of Unleavened Bread. The Passover itself is not a Sabbath. It is even called the preparation day for the High Day (John 19:31).

Wednesday <---- Buried just before sunset
Thursday <---- First day of Unleavened Bread
Friday <---- Preparation day for the weekly Sabbath
Saturday <---- Resurrection just before sunset

This is exactly 72 hour just as Christ said it would be (Mat 12:39-40)

Yeah I said that I see your point mi amigo.....

Held/beaten/tried/crucified/gives up Ghost and is taken down and prepared by Joseph Laid in tomb on Wednesday Evening

Wednesday evening-->Thursday Evening
Thursday Evening --> Friday Evening
Friday Evening -->Saturday Evening
First day of week as it begins to dawn the women see the angels and Jesus not there.

Unlike a lot of people I will bend to truth and I can see your point......my original point still stands as (good Friday) means exactly what in the grand scheme of a Wednesday evening burial to a

KittenofMelchisedek · Mar 29, 2014

You guys do know that the 14th of Nissan happens on a different day of the week year to year right? Why do we focus on which weekday, instead of focusing on the mystery of Passover, which happens each year, on Passover, not on wednesday. This year it's a Monday. There's nothing wrong with holding services on whatever day. The early church was manipulated by Rome, but before that, they celebrated on the 14th of Nissan. Many people agreed with Rome and wanted the day fixed to a set day. I understand wanting to be comfortable and not have to go through the effort each year of organizing your favorite festivities a different way each year, but God seems to like it when we have to use discernment for these things. Kinda like the difference between someone really remembering your birthday and doing something nice for you that they planned ahead of time, and someone who see's a reminder on facebook and writes something on your wall. Both are good and indicate a relationship. However it's obviously my opinion that one is more meaningful if that's the desire of the participant. Some encouragement is sometimes needed, but God will put his desires in our hearts if we seek him. If we have no desire at all for holidays even in general, that's not something I would think negatively on someone for. We are all called according to God's purpose for our lives. The only think I would caution against, is having an ishtar party on the eve of the solstice, where you are surrounded by fertility symbols, and served pork, and expect blessings to rain down upon you, even if you think about Jesus and worship him the whole time. Unless of course you are a servant, and cannot be excused from such an event. In which case, I would still be observant. See things how they are, you know?

Karraster · Mar 29, 2014

KittenofMelchisedek said:

You guys do know that the 14th of Nissan happens on a different day of the week year to year right? Why do we focus on which weekday, instead of focusing on the mystery of Passover, which happens each year, on Passover, not on wednesday. This year it's a Monday. There's nothing wrong with holding services on whatever day. The early church was manipulated by Rome, but before that, they celebrated on the 14th of Nissan. Many people agreed with Rome and wanted the day fixed to a set day. I understand wanting to be comfortable and not have to go through the effort each year of organizing your favorite festivities a different way each year, but God seems to like it when we have to use discernment for these things. Kinda like the difference between someone really remembering your birthday and doing something nice for you that they planned ahead of time, and someone who see's a reminder on facebook and writes something on your wall. Both are good and indicate a relationship. However it's obviously my opinion that one is more meaningful if that's the desire of the participant. Some encouragement is sometimes needed, but God will put his desires in our hearts if we seek him. If we have no desire at all for holidays even in general, that's not something I would think negatively on someone for. We are all called according to God's purpose for our lives. The only think I would caution against, is having an ishtar party on the eve of the solstice, where you are surrounded by fertility symbols, and served pork, and expect blessings to rain down upon you, even if you think about Jesus and worship him the whole time. Unless of course you are a servant, and cannot be excused from such an event. In which case, I would still be observant. See things how they are, you know?

Thank you! Well said!

EmethAlethia · Sep 8, 2014

Spokenpassage said:

Oh, but it does matter immensely ...

This was one of my favorite verses to prove that the scriptures were wrong, or that Jesus was a false prophet, and was deserving of the death He received. Here's the data:

If He died on Friday, then He was in the tomb at dusk.

Friday night to Saturday morning = 1 Night

Saturday day to Saturday night

1 Night and 1 Day

Saturday night till ... wait,

Joh 20:1 The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre.

Ok, so the best you get is part of a night, 1 full day, 1 full night, I'll give you 9/10 of a second full night. If the interpretation of 95% of those that believe themselves to be Christians is correct, then Jesus was a false prophet and the penalty for being a false prophet is stoning to death. OR

You can pick that the scriptures are in error and Jesus never said what the bible says He said. Ok, now you can throw out everything the bible says as being unreliable and untrustworthy. PICK ONE, or both.

Here's the issue though. The religious leaders, who had Him killed, were well aware of what Jesus said and meant. If it hadn't happened EXACTLY as Jesus prophesied, they would have discredited Him in an instant. It didn't happen. This is not one of the arguments that ever came up ... then, but that was because the people all understood about the differences between high Sabbaths and low Sabbaths.

If you do a study on the feast of unleavened bread, the high days, and low days, you will find that the feast Jesus died during had some High Sabbaths that are based on moon cycle, and not on being scheduled on a specific day of the week. There are a couple of years where the "High Sabbath" that Jesus is said to have died on, started on a Wednesday at dusk till Thursday at dusk, followed by a very short preparation time on Friday followed by a low Sabbath Friday dusk till Saturday dusk. SO how do I know it was a high day? The scriptures tell us it was:

Joh 19:31 The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that
the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that
sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken,
and that they might be taken away.

The problem is, most people who believe themselves to be Christians merely do a surface scan of the scriptures, gather the passages and facts that they need to hold fast to their beliefs, and the passages and facts that they need to prove all opposing beliefs false, and interpret everything in the light of their beliefs. Unfortunately, no one can EVER get to the truth using that method. Fortunately, if you love your beliefs more than truth, then you can prove every belief under the sun to be true to yourselves. Do the Atheists not gather passages and facts to prove their beliefs true, passages and facts to prove all opposing beliefs false, and interpret their selected data in the light of their beliefs. I did ... when I was an Atheist. I gathered over 10,000 errors from the scripture, including this one.

If it is good Friday and Easter Sunday, then the scriptures lie, and Jesus was a false prophet that should have been toned for His own sins. If the scriptures are true, and the Sabbath was a High Day, then we have good Wednesday and Easter Saturday (3 days and 3 nights ended at dusk on Saturday.) Also, to a Jew, "Early on the first day of the week" is at dusk on Saturday.

You pick. Good Wednesday and Easter Saturday, because of the High Sabbath, or false prophet needing to die for His own sins, and the word of God being worthless because it claims a false prophet was the Messiah. Your beliefs on this issue are important. Be consistent.

john832 · Sep 8, 2014

EmethAlethia said:

Oh, but it does matter immensely ...

This was one of my favorite verses to prove that the scriptures were wrong, or that Jesus was a false prophet, and was deserving of the death He received. Here's the data:

If He died on Friday, then He was in the tomb at dusk.

Friday night to Saturday morning = 1 Night

Saturday day to Saturday night

1 Night and 1 Day

Saturday night till ... wait,

Joh 20:1 The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre.

Ok, so the best you get is part of a night, 1 full day, 1 full night, I'll give you 9/10 of a second full night. If the interpretation of 95% of those that believe themselves to be Christians is correct, then Jesus was a false prophet and the penalty for being a false prophet is stoning to death. OR

You can pick that the scriptures are in error and Jesus never said what the bible says He said. Ok, now you can throw out everything the bible says as being unreliable and untrustworthy. PICK ONE, or both.

Here's the issue though. The religious leaders, who had Him killed, were well aware of what Jesus said and meant. If it hadn't happened EXACTLY as Jesus prophesied, they would have discredited Him in an instant. It didn't happen. This is not one of the arguments that ever came up ... then, but that was because the people all understood about the differences between high Sabbaths and low Sabbaths.

If you do a study on the feast of unleavened bread, the high days, and low days, you will find that the feast Jesus died during had some High Sabbaths that are based on moon cycle, and not on being scheduled on a specific day of the week. There are a couple of years where the "High Sabbath" that Jesus is said to have died on, started on a Wednesday at dusk till Thursday at dusk, followed by a very short preparation time on Friday followed by a low Sabbath Friday dusk till Saturday dusk. SO how do I know it was a high day? The scriptures tell us it was:

Joh 19:31 The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that
the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that
sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken,
and that they might be taken away.

The problem is, most people who believe themselves to be Christians merely do a surface scan of the scriptures, gather the passages and facts that they need to hold fast to their beliefs, and the passages and facts that they need to prove all opposing beliefs false, and interpret everything in the light of their beliefs. Unfortunately, no one can EVER get to the truth using that method. Fortunately, if you love your beliefs more than truth, then you can prove every belief under the sun to be true to yourselves. Do the Atheists not gather passages and facts to prove their beliefs true, passages and facts to prove all opposing beliefs false, and interpret their selected data in the light of their beliefs. I did ... when I was an Atheist. I gathered over 10,000 errors from the scripture, including this one.

If it is good Friday and Easter Sunday, then the scriptures lie, and Jesus was a false prophet that should have been toned for His own sins. If the scriptures are true, and the Sabbath was a High Day, then we have good Wednesday and Easter Saturday (3 days and 3 nights ended at dusk on Saturday.) Also, to a Jew, "Early on the first day of the week" is at dusk on Saturday.

You pick. Good Wednesday and Easter Saturday, because of the High Sabbath, or false prophet needing to die for His own sins, and the word of God being worthless because it claims a false prophet was the Messiah. Your beliefs on this issue are important. Be consistent.

Very cogent.

JesusIsAll · Sep 8, 2014

I recall studying this a long time ago, and the Wednesday evening entombment makes scriptural sense, but there was some conflict of the Passover preparation day being on the right day in, what was it, 32 AD, which analysis of Daniel's prophecy of weeks would indicate the crucifixion year, as well as indication from the years of the reign of Tiberius? I just don't remember the exact details, but had to thrown up my hands and conclude we can't know some things with any real certainty, even a legitimate question as to whether a partial day is a day, etc. Interesting to discuss, but, alas, much like an OSAS thread?

JesusIsAll · Sep 8, 2014

Stay tuned for a preview of the new hit thread, "What Year Was the Lord Jesus Born?"

just-me · Sep 8, 2014

JesusIsAll said:

Comparing Exodus chapter 12 with the crucifixion of our Lord gets rid of a lot of misconceptions. Passover was after dark. Jesus was laid in the tomb, and the stone rolled in front of the entrance by dark. The hours do not apply. Only the days in relation to Jonah. The first full day of His burial was the annual sabbath called a "high day." (The 15th of Nisan) The women prepared spices the day after, (the 16th) and rested according to the law (the 17th) the day after they prepared them. After the Sabbath was over they went to the tomb and found the stone rolled away. (the 18th)There it is recorded in the Gospels. 3 days and 3 nights. It's in perfect timing according to Passover in Exodus chapter 12. I know you get it, but this is for those that haven't yet. Exodus 15:22-25 relate to resurrection day.

EmethAlethia · Sep 8, 2014

JesusIsAll said:

I also have seen some of those calculations done. I have heard that 31 AD fits perfectly with the 3 days and three nights using extrapolations based on modern moon phases. There are issues though. For example, there is a reason why we have leap year. The revolving of the earth is not an EXACT 365 day cycle. Nor are the moons stages. The Jews planned each year based on the exact phases at that time. It's not like we have a copy of the charting of the moons phases compiled by someone in the years 31-35 AD, and the dates as well. Even the smallest inaccuracy could make for a difference of a full week from 30 AD till now.

All I can say for sure is that, if Jesus didn't die on Good Wednesday and rise on Easter Saturday, throw your bible out and pick a different belief. Dates for the start of the 70 weeks, calculating calendar changes, ... understand that the initial calculations were all done by someone who believed with all their heart that Jesus died on Friday and rose on Sunday at dawn.

The part about gathering passages and facts to support your beliefs and to refute opposing ones does apply. There is enough possibility to introduce error that affects the facts, that being adamant on what exactly the moon stages were in a particular day of the month in 30-35 AD seems a bit presumptuous. Given that the Jews have, over the years, pushed a feast, a High day, ... backwards or forwards a day, or two, on occasion due to other conflicts in schedule, and you have another possibility ... A High Sabbath and a low Sabbath end to end means no work whatsoever for two straight days.

The three days and three nights is one of those, sorry, can't give on the Easter Saturday Good Wednesday thing, or it all goes away, points. A Christian who believes otherwise has no foot to stand on. He was a false prophet and the N.T. is wrong, and needs to be thrown out or its a Wednesday / Saturday thing.

JesusIsAll · Sep 8, 2014

just-me said:

Comparing Exodus chapter 12 with the crucifixion of our Lord gets rid of a lot of misconceptions. Passover was after dark. Jesus was laid in the tomb, and the stone rolled in front of the entrance by dark. The hours do not apply. Only the days in relation to Jonah. The first full day of His burial was the annual sabbath called a "high day." (The 15th of Nisan) The women prepared spices the day after, (the 16th) and rested according to the law (the 17th) the day after they prepared them. After the Sabbath was over they went to the tomb and found the stone rolled away. (the 18th)There it is recorded in the Gospels. 3 days and 3 nights. It's in perfect timing according to Passover in Exodus chapter 12. I know you get it, but this is for those that haven't yet. Exodus 15:22-25 relate to resurrection day.

Don't neglect the book Jonah! Still, I found the problem coming down to the year turning up fishy.

JesusIsAll · Sep 8, 2014

EmethAlethia said:

I think as long as we keep our focus, are vigilant to whip, rack and burn the heretics spreading false prophecy less than of 72 hours duration, the kingdom of heaven will be spared the rabble.

just-me · Sep 8, 2014

JesusIsAll said:

I have heard AD 31 and 32. To me it makes no difference. I do know (according to the Hebrew calendar) that next year (2015) is the year 5775. I would exhort all to watch world events as they progress.

john832 · Sep 8, 2014

JesusIsAll said:

Actually, I would like to see your calculations that show a 32AD crucifixion...

Artaxerxes Longimanus decree was in 457BC, when we add 483 years we come to 27AD. With a 3-1/2 year ministry, Christ is then crucified in 31AD.

Actually, there are four decrees but the only one that falls within the correct time frame is the third one.

john832 · Sep 8, 2014

just-me said:

If one looks at 2300 days (Num 14:34) from the dividing of the Kingdom of Alexander, we come to either 2015AD or 2016AD. (There are a few questions about the correlation of the calendar.)

The bigger question is when does one begin counting?

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