The early church didn't gather on the first day of the week...

[WomanLovesTX]

There is no Jewish Sabbath and Christian Sabbath. It's the Sabbath of the LORD thy God and in this we find unity. Amen!

Exactly!! No where in the Bible do you find that God's Sabbath was given to the Jews only. And Elf3's comment stating Sunday is the tradition of Christians is also correct.

Mat_15:2 Why do thy disciples transgress the tradition of the elders? for they wash not their hands when they eat bread.
Mat_15:3 But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition?

Mar_7:13 Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.

Col_2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

So those Gentiles who believe that Christ changed His Sabbaths to Sunday will not find one verse where Christ changed the Sabbath to Sunday. What we do find in history is that the pagans worshipped their god on Sunday and Constantine who had persecuted the early church believers who rested on the Sabbath stated that Sunday would be the new day to rest and this pleased the pagans and some of weaker faith then joined up with the Sunday as the now Christian day. IMO, God hates our mixing ourselves with Him and paganism. Why can't Christians see that all we need is God's ways? Rest on the Sabbath. Do like Daniel, pray (which is worshiping) three times a day everyday facing Jerusalem.

 

[Timeline]

Galatians 4
Now I say, as long as the heir is a child, he does not differ at all from a slave although he is owner of everything, [SUP]2 [/SUP]but he is under guardians and managers until the date set by the father. [SUP]3 [/SUP]So also we, while we were children, were held in bondage under the elemental things of the world. [SUP]4 [/SUP]But when the fullness of the time came, God sent forth His Son, born of a woman, born under the Law, [SUP]5 [/SUP]so that He might redeem those who were under the Law, that we might receive the adoption as sons. [SUP]6 [/SUP]Because you are sons, God has sent forth the Spirit of His Son into our hearts, crying, “Abba! Father!” [SUP]7 [/SUP]Therefore you are no longer a slave, but a son; and if a son, then an heir through God.[SUP]8 [/SUP]However at that time, when you did not know God, you were slaves to those which by nature are no gods. [SUP]9 [/SUP]But now that you have come to know God, or rather to be known by God, how is it that you turn back again to the weak and worthless elemental things, to which you desire to be enslaved all over again? [SUP]10 [/SUP]You observe days and months and seasons and years.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]I fear for you, that perhaps I have labored over you in vain.


Galatians 4:21
Tell me, you who want to be under law, do you not listen to the law?

[SUP]16 [/SUP]But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not carry out the desire of the flesh. [SUP]17 [/SUP]For the flesh sets its desire against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; for these are in opposition to one another, so that you may not do the things that you please. [SUP]18 [/SUP]But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the Law.

 

[Scuba]

Do you know what Jesus meant when He said "It is finished." In John 19:30? Do you know what the finished work of Christ is? Do you know what He accomplished? If you do then please "enlighten" me.

Jesus was sent to do a work. He had to fulfill everything that was written about Him in the Bible. The final act of Him fulfilling prophecy was to be numbered with the transgressors.

Luke 22:37 For I tell you that this scripture must be fulfilled in me, ‘And he was reckoned with transgressors’; for what is written about me has its fulfilment.”

When Jesus said, "It is finished" He was referring to Him completing His work in fulfilling all the prophecies that was written about Him. Being numbered with the transgressors was the end of His earthly ministry but His ministry didn't stop there.

Hebrews 7:25 Therefore, he is always able to save those who approach God through him, since he lives forever to make intercession for them.

Romans 8:34 Who is he who condemns? It is Christ who died, and furthermore is also risen, who is even at the right hand of God, who also makes intercession for us.

1 John 2:1 My little children, these things I write to you, so that you may not sin. And if anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous.

 

[Scuba]

It was Paul's custom that when he went to a new town he found the synagogue, for that is where the Jews would naturally congregate and there he preached, reasoned them Christ and His NT out of the scripture. So Paul preached everywhere he went anytime he could but formal, corporate worship was on Sunday, first day of the week.

Ats 28:7-Paul would tarry 7 days so he could be with the disciples on the first day of the week per Acts 20:7, the Lord's Day as he did in Acts 20:6,7 and Acts 21:4.

Paul preached every Sabbath in Corinth.

Acts 18:4 And he reasoned in the synagogue every Sabbath, and persuaded both Jews and Greeks.

He did this for a year and six months before leaving for his next journey.

Acts 18:11 And he continued there a year and six months, teaching the word of God among them.

Paul fellowshipped every Sabbath in Corinth for a year and a half. That's at least 78 Sabbaths. The Corinthian church was a Sabbath keeping church.

 

[Scuba]

yes and partial obedience is still disobedience.

Yes, but God is looking for complete surrender. But even in complete surrender it doesn't mean we will never sin. That's why God put 1 John 1:9 in the Bible.

 

[Scuba]

Well stated!! May I add to this?

Act 20:6 And we sailed away from Philippi after the days of unleavened bread, and came unto them to Troas in five days; where we abode seven days.
Act 20:7 And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.

Here in Acts 20:7 we find again a misphrase. It should read "upon the first Sabbath", which as shown by context of the previous verse is talking about the Feast of Unleavened Bread. There is no "the" in Greek and the translators added this word.

Also we have Mark 16:2 which states "Mar 16:2 And very early in the morning the first day of the week, they came unto the sepulchre at the rising of the sun. "

Again there is no "the" in the Greeek and was added by translators (KJV always puts words that are added in italics). and the phrase "first day of the week" is again just like Acts 20:7 should have read "first of Sabbaths" which is the beginning count from the Feast of Unleavened Bread to Shavuot/Pentecost, the counting of 7 Sabbaths plus 1 day.

Also, I want to challenge someone's comment that there are never two Sabbaths in a row, back to back. That is not true. Looking at the Hillell II calendar I find that the 15th of the first month falls on a Sunday in 2008, that is to say it falls immediately after the weekly Sabbath which was Nisan 14. There you have the weekly Sabbath and the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread, a High Sabbath, back to back.

Nice addition, thanks.

God's people need to understand the battle over what God has said. Satan as been distorting what God has said from the very beginning. The reason for this is because he wants to be worshiped. He knows that true worship is founded on obedience to God. If Satan can distort what God has said he can draw worship away from God onto himself. Satan devised a massive religious system that is rooted in Babylon, it has a man at its head, persecutes those who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus, it changed God's Law and times and speak pompous words against God. Until they understand this and let God identify this system for them they will forever fight for the wrong things.

 

[Scuba]

Exactly!! No where in the Bible do you find that God's Sabbath was given to the Jews only. And Elf3's comment stating Sunday is the tradition of Christians is also correct.

Mat_15:2 Why do thy disciples transgress the tradition of the elders? for they wash not their hands when they eat bread.
Mat_15:3 But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition?

Mar_7:13 Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.

Col_2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

So those Gentiles who believe that Christ changed His Sabbaths to Sunday will not find one verse where Christ changed the Sabbath to Sunday. What we do find in history is that the pagans worshipped their god on Sunday and Constantine who had persecuted the early church believers who rested on the Sabbath stated that Sunday would be the new day to rest and this pleased the pagans and some of weaker faith then joined up with the Sunday as the now Christian day. IMO, God hates our mixing ourselves with Him and paganism. Why can't Christians see that all we need is God's ways? Rest on the Sabbath. Do like Daniel, pray (which is worshiping) three times a day everyday facing Jerusalem.

Deuteronomy 12:29-31 When the LORD goes ahead of you and destroys the nations and you live in their land, do not fall into the trap of following their customs and worshiping their gods. Do not inquire about their gods, saying, ‘How do these nations worship their gods? I want to follow their example.’ You must not worship the LORD the way the other nations worship their gods, for they perform for their gods everything the LORD hates.

 

[1still_waters]

Why are all of the Sabbath keepers exerting effort on the Sabbath, by posting about the Sabbath, on the Sabbath on a forum/chat site?

This seems like unnecessary work to me.

First of all, your many posts remain active during any times off, so if anyone needs access to your arguments for a 24 hour period, they're easily readable. Thus making it unnecessary work for you to be exerting effort debating/discussing this stuff online on the Sabbath

Second of all, anything you might say on the Sabbath to someone on this forum has probably already been said multiple times, hence making it unnecessary to work on the Sabbath by posting on these forums. These folks have probably heard you say what you'd say already. Going without the repetition for a 24 hour period won't harm them.

Take a rest Sabbath keepers.

 

[Scuba]

Galatians 4
Now I say, as long as the heir is a child, he does not differ at all from a slave although he is owner of everything, [SUP]2 [/SUP]but he is under guardians and managers until the date set by the father. [SUP]3 [/SUP]So also we, while we were children, were held in bondage under the elemental things of the world. [SUP]4 [/SUP]But when the fullness of the time came, God sent forth His Son, born of a woman, born under the Law, [SUP]5 [/SUP]so that He might redeem those who were under the Law, that we might receive the adoption as sons. [SUP]6 [/SUP]Because you are sons, God has sent forth the Spirit of His Son into our hearts, crying, “Abba! Father!” [SUP]7 [/SUP]Therefore you are no longer a slave, but a son; and if a son, then an heir through God.[SUP]8 [/SUP]However at that time, when you did not know God, you were slaves to those which by nature are no gods. [SUP]9 [/SUP]But now that you have come to know God, or rather to be known by God, how is it that you turn back again to the weak and worthless elemental things, to which you desire to be enslaved all over again? [SUP]10 [/SUP]You observe days and months and seasons and years.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]I fear for you, that perhaps I have labored over you in vain.


Galatians 4:21
Tell me, you who want to be under law, do you not listen to the law?

[SUP]16 [/SUP]But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not carry out the desire of the flesh. [SUP]17 [/SUP]For the flesh sets its desire against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; for these are in opposition to one another, so that you may not do the things that you please. [SUP]18 [/SUP]But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the Law.

The Law can be cold and hard when it's not being directed by the Spirit. For example, religious man won't even heal a sick and hurting person on the Sabbath because it's the Sabbath. Jesus came and changed all that. He removed all the religious baggage that religious man put on God's Law. Religious man would probably think things like, "I can undress that lady in my mind as long as I don't have sex with her" or they might think "I can hate that guy as long as I'm nice to him". Jesus came to change all that. Being led by the Spirit does not mean we are free to sin, it just means God will lead us in our obedience. Will the Spirit of God do away with the Sabbath or change it to another day? If Jesus didn't then the Spirit of God won't. Will the Spirit of God convict you if you heal on the Sabbath? If Jesus didn't then the Spirit of God won't either. Will the Spirit of God convict you if you need to do something on the Sabbath that if it was done while under the Law it would be a violation? If Jesus didn't then the Spirit of God won't either. Will the Spirit of God convict you of undressing your neighbor's wife in your mind if the Law didn't convict you? If Jesus said it was wrong then the Spirit of God will convict you.

 

[Scuba]

Why are all of the Sabbath keepers exerting effort on the Sabbath, by posting about the Sabbath, on the Sabbath on a forum/chat site?

This seems like unnecessary work to me.

First of all, your many posts remain active during any times off, so if anyone needs access to your arguments for a 24 hour period, they're easily readable. Thus making it unnecessary work for you to be exerting effort debating/discussing this stuff online on the Sabbath

Second of all, anything you might say on the Sabbath to someone on this forum has probably already been said multiple times, hence making it unnecessary to work on the Sabbath by posting on these forums. These folks have probably heard you say what you'd say already. Going without the repetition for a 24 hour period won't harm them.

Take a rest Sabbath keepers.

http://christianchat.com/bible-disc...idnt-gather-first-day-week-5.html#post1688903

 

[1still_waters]

http://christianchat.com/bible-disc...idnt-gather-first-day-week-5.html#post1688903

You posted that in reference to.

Why are all of the Sabbath keepers exerting effort on the Sabbath, by posting about the Sabbath, on the Sabbath on a forum/chat site?

This seems like unnecessary work to me.

First of all, your many posts remain active during any times off, so if anyone needs access to your arguments for a 24 hour period, they're easily readable. Thus making it unnecessary work for you to be exerting effort debating/discussing this stuff online on the Sabbath

Second of all, anything you might say on the Sabbath to someone on this forum has probably already been said multiple times, hence making it unnecessary to work on the Sabbath by posting on these forums. These folks have probably heard you say what you'd say already. Going without the repetition for a 24 hour period won't harm them.

Take a rest Sabbath keepers.

Your link said..

The Law can be cold and hard when it's not being directed by the Spirit. For example, religious man won't even heal a sick and hurting person on the Sabbath because it's the Sabbath. Jesus came and changed all that. He removed all the religious baggage that religious man put on God's Law. Religious man would probably think things like, "I can undress that lady in my mind as long as I don't have sex with her" or they might think "I can hate that guy as long as I'm nice to him". Jesus came to change all that. Being led by the Spirit does not mean we are free to sin, it just means God will lead us in our obedience. Will the Spirit of God do away with the Sabbath or change it to another day? If Jesus didn't then the Spirit of God won't. Will the Spirit of God convict you if you heal on the Sabbath? If Jesus didn't then the Spirit of God won't either. Will the Spirit of God convict you if you need to do something on the Sabbath that if it was done while under the Law it would be a violation? If Jesus didn't then the Spirit of God won't either. Will the Spirit of God convict you of undressing your neighbor's wife in your mind if the Law didn't convict you? If Jesus said it was wrong then the Spirit of God will convict you.

I really don't think repeating your already hashed out arguments on the Sabbath is on the same level as healing a sick man.

Repeating yourself to people on a forum who have already heard you many times, is indeed unnecessary work.

You should be resting. Right?

 

[Scuba]

You posted that in reference to.


Your link said..


I really don't think repeating your already hashed out arguments on the Sabbath is on the same level as healing a sick man.

Repeating yourself to people on a forum who have already heard you many times, is indeed unnecessary work.

You should be resting. Right?

It's lawful to do good on the Sabbath. Leading people out of Babylon is good.

 

[WomanLovesTX]

Galatians 4
Now I say, as long as the heir is a child, he does not differ at all from a slave although he is owner of everything, [SUP]2 [/SUP]but he is under guardians and managers until the date set by the father. [SUP]3 [/SUP]So also we, while we were children, were held in bondage under the elemental things of the world. [SUP]4 [/SUP]But when the fullness of the time came, God sent forth His Son, born of a woman, born under the Law, [SUP]5 [/SUP]so that He might redeem those who were under the Law, that we might receive the adoption as sons. [SUP]6 [/SUP]Because you are sons, God has sent forth the Spirit of His Son into our hearts, crying, “Abba! Father!” [SUP]7 [/SUP]Therefore you are no longer a slave, but a son; and if a son, then an heir through God.[SUP]8 [/SUP]However at that time, when you did not know God, you were slaves to those which by nature are no gods. [SUP]9 [/SUP]But now that you have come to know God, or rather to be known by God, how is it that you turn back again to the weak and worthless elemental things, to which you desire to be enslaved all over again? [SUP]10 [/SUP]You observe days and months and seasons and years.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]I fear for you, that perhaps I have labored over you in vain.


Galatians 4:21
Tell me, you who want to be under law, do you not listen to the law?

[SUP]16 [/SUP]But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not carry out the desire of the flesh. [SUP]17 [/SUP]For the flesh sets its desire against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; for these are in opposition to one another, so that you may not do the things that you please. [SUP]18 [/SUP]But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the Law.

Act_5:32 And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him.

There is a difference between obdience to God's commandments versus trying in the flesh to keep the law of sin and death. Grace is demanded and Grace is given and Grace must be received. There is no other way to salvation except through Jesus and His WORKS!! Thank God for His Grace!!

 

[SeaBass]

Paul preached every Sabbath in Corinth.

Acts 18:4 And he reasoned in the synagogue every Sabbath, and persuaded both Jews and Greeks.

He did this for a year and six months before leaving for his next journey.

Acts 18:11 And he continued there a year and six months, teaching the word of God among them.

Paul fellowshipped every Sabbath in Corinth for a year and a half. That's at least 78 Sabbaths. The Corinthian church was a Sabbath keeping church.

Paul preached any day at any opportunity he had. Paul preaching on the Sabbath does not mean he was keeping the Sabbath day as required by the OT law. Paul already said that circumcision is nothing, that circumcision avails nothing, 1 Cor 7:19; Gal 5:6. Circumcision was the beginning point, the covenant sign the Jew had with the law of Moses and if circumcision is nothing/avails nothing then keeping the rest of the law including the Sabbath Day is nothing, avails nothing....cannot make one righteous, Gal 2:21.

 

[EmethAlethia]

If you want to hold that Jesus rose early on the Sabbath, then He rose on the same day He was buried, or was in the tomb for 7 days and 7 nights.

The feast of first fruits started at dusk on Saturday night. Jesus is the First fruits of the dead. Jesus could not have risen before dawn (While it was still dark) on the first day of the week (Saturday dusk - Sunday dusk) and meet any of the requirements you put forth.

Keep in mind that Jesus did not die on a regular Sabbath. He died and was buried at dusk, on a HIGH Sabbath. (For that day was a High day). High Sabbaths occur any day of the week, as the Sabbath Jesus died on was related to moon cycles, not days.

Jesus said that the sign He was the Messiah was that He would be 3 Days AND 3 nights in the earth just as Jonah was 3 days and 3 nights in the great fish. So either Jesus was a false prophet and deserved to be stoned to death, and your N.T. which calls Him God / the Messiah is complete garbage, and this discussion is a mute point altogether as none of it holds any water, or, instead of:

Jesus was in the tomb at dusk on Friday - Saturday dawn = 1 Night
Saturday Dawn till Saturday dusk = 1 Night and 1 Day
Out of the tomb will it was still dark = 1 Night, 1 Day, and part of a second night

= Jesus a false prophet deserving of death N.T. is garbage

OR

Jesus in the tomb at dusk on Wednesday(Start of the High Sabbath)
Wednesday night = 1 Night
Thursday Day = 1 Night, 1 Day
Thursday night = 2 Nights, 1 Day
Friday Day = 2 Nights, 2 Days
Friday Night = 3 Nights, 2 Days
Saturday Day = 3 Nights, 3 Days

If it wasn't this, then stop your debating and end all the Christian chat as Jesus was a false prophet, your N.T. claims a false prophet is a Messiah, making it full of lies as well and you are still dead in your sins.

As far as which day to observe to worship the Lord ... Paul says this:

Rom 14:4 Who are you to judge the servant of another? To his own master he stands or falls; and he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand. 5 One person regards one day above another, another regards every day alike. Each person must be fully convinced in his own mind. 6 He who observes the day, observes it for the Lord, and he who eats, does so for the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who eats not, for the Lord he does not eat, and gives thanks to God.

It sounds like you are firmly convinced. Good for you. Now stop judging the rest of us as to which day we worship on, what foods we should or shouldn't eat, whether or not we should drink alcohol ... For YOU, worshiping on any other day is sin. Whatever is not from faith is sin. If you believe eating tomatoes is a sin, it is a sin for you. Playing cards, going to movies, drinking alcohol ... If you "believe" something is a sin, it is a sin for you. That said, maturity, from a scriptural standpoint requires that we be so practiced in cutting straight ALL of the word of God for ourselves that we can readily tell what is good from what is evil. There are other passages that say that we should eventually get to the point where we can tell what is better from what is best. To contend that everyone hold to "your" views on things scripture allows us flexibility on, is meaningless contention.

 

[Scuba]

Paul preached any day at any opportunity he had. Paul preaching on the Sabbath does not mean he was keeping the Sabbath day as required by the OT law. Paul already said that circumcision is nothing, that circumcision avails nothing, 1 Cor 7:19; Gal 5:6. Circumcision was the beginning point, the covenant sign the Jew had with the law of Moses and if circumcision is nothing/avails nothing then keeping the rest of the law including the Sabbath Day is nothing, avails nothing....cannot make one righteous, Gal 2:21.

People have to work. Some people have to travel miles to get to work. It must have been hard during the time of Jesus. Paul would preach every Sabbath because six days is for work but the seventh day belongs to the LORD. It's the time He set aside for His people to put down their tools of trade and come from far and near to hear the word of God and fellowship. Listen.

Acts 13:42 So when the Jews went out of the synagogue, the Gentiles begged that these words might be preached to them the next Sabbath.

Paul was preaching on Sabbath and the Gentiles wanted more but they have to work so they asked Paul to teach them again the next Sabbath. Why not just tell Paul to come back Sunday and teach the them? If the Sabbath was changed to Sunday this would have been the perfect time to say something but he didn't because the Sabbath wasn't changed.

Now the Gentiles left church on Sabbath and went out all week during their travels and working and invited people to come to church on Sabbath because the next Sabbath almost the whole city came together to here the word of God.

Acts 13:44 On the next Sabbath almost the whole city came together to hear the word of God.

Jesus never once talked about Sunday as being special or that the Sabbath would change to Sunday. If Jesus didn't teach it then Paul is not teaching it. Remember, Acts was long after Jesus' death and resurrection and they were still gathering on Sabbath and they were still calling it the Sabbath.

 

[SeaBass]

Why are all of the Sabbath keepers exerting effort on the Sabbath, by posting about the Sabbath, on the Sabbath on a forum/chat site?

This seems like unnecessary work to me.

First of all, your many posts remain active during any times off, so if anyone needs access to your arguments for a 24 hour period, they're easily readable. Thus making it unnecessary work for you to be exerting effort debating/discussing this stuff online on the Sabbath

Second of all, anything you might say on the Sabbath to someone on this forum has probably already been said multiple times, hence making it unnecessary to work on the Sabbath by posting on these forums. These folks have probably heard you say what you'd say already. Going without the repetition for a 24 hour period won't harm them.

Take a rest Sabbath keepers.

Ex 16:29 "See, for that the LORD hath given you the sabbath, therefore he giveth you on the sixth day the bread of two days; abide ye every man in his place, let no man go out of his place on the seventh day."

Do any Sabbath Keepers leave their houses on Saturday?

Adam Clarke says of Ex 16:29:

Neither go out to seek manna nor for any other purpose; rest at home and devote your time to religious exercises. Several of the Jews understood by place in the text, the camp, and have generally supposed that no man should go out of the place, i.e., the city, town, or village in which he resides, any farther than one thousand cubits, about an English mile, which also is called a Sabbath day's journey, Acts 1:12; and many cubits they consider the space round the city that constitutes its suburbs, which they draw from Numbers 35:3,4. Some of the Jews have carried the rigorous observance of the letter of this law to such a length, that in whatever posture they find themselves on the Sabbath morning when they awake, they continue in the same during the day; or should they be up and happen to fall, they refuse even to rise till the Sabbath be ended! Mr. Stapleton tells a story of one Rabbi Solomon, who fell into a slough on the Jewish Sabbath, Saturday, and refused to be pulled out, giving his reason in the following Leonine couplet:-


Sabbatha sancta colo De stereore surgere nolo.
"Out of this slough I will not rise For holy Sabbath day I prize."
The Christians, finding him thus disposed determined he should honour their Sabbath in the same place, and actually kept the poor man in the slough allSunday, giving their reasons in nearly the same way:-
Sabbatha nostra quidem, Solomon, celebrabis ibidem.


"In the same slough, thou stubborn Jew, Our Sabbath day thou shalt spend too."


This might have served to convince him of his folly, but certainly was not the likeliest way to convert him to Christianity.
FABYAN, in his Chronicles, tells the following story of a case of this kind. "In this yere also (1259) fell that happe of the Iewe of Tewkysbury, which fell into a gonge upon the Satyrday, and wolde not for reverence of his sabbot day be pluckyd out; whereof heryng the Erle of Gloucetyr, that the Iewe dyd so great reverence to his sabbot daye, thought he wolde doo as moche unto his holy day, which was Sonday, and so kepte hym there tyll Monday, at whiche season he was foundyn dede." Then the earl of Gloucester murdered the poor man.

 

[Scuba]

Ex 16:29 "See, for that the LORD hath given you the sabbath, therefore he giveth you on the sixth day the bread of two days; abide ye every man in his place, let no man go out of his place on the seventh day."

Do any Sabbath Keepers leave their houses on Saturday?

Do you stay home all week since Jesus is your Sabbath?

You are misinterpreting the verse and grabbing at straws to do away with something that will never be done away with. Jesus walked everywhere on the Sabbath. Are you saying Jesus sinned? Stop kicking against the goads and come out of Babylon. The truth will never change so don't try.

 

[WomanLovesTX]

Why are all of the Sabbath keepers exerting effort on the Sabbath, by posting about the Sabbath, on the Sabbath on a forum/chat site?

This seems like unnecessary work to me.

First of all, your many posts remain active during any times off, so if anyone needs access to your arguments for a 24 hour period, they're easily readable. Thus making it unnecessary work for you to be exerting effort debating/discussing this stuff online on the Sabbath

Second of all, anything you might say on the Sabbath to someone on this forum has probably already been said multiple times, hence making it unnecessary to work on the Sabbath by posting on these forums. These folks have probably heard you say what you'd say already. Going without the repetition for a 24 hour period won't harm them.

Take a rest Sabbath keepers.

I am a Sabbath keeper and I just don't have much time the rest of the week to get on CC. Discussing the Bible on the Sabbath helps me to grow. We are in fellowship here, even if we have not all arrived at similar conclusions.

 

[thecreationtutor]

kinda the opposite direction that old saints should go hear endless criticisms I hope we are actually doing something about it practically then in word