Whoever cares to answer

[Elin]

this is not scripture...God through his Spirit does the heavy lifting of obedience,

Agreed. . .but it is the meaning of Scripture.

The heavy lifting, the heavy work in obedience is the power to obey, and the willingness and desire to obey.

We cannot lift that load, God himself must lift it and put it on the cart.

Our job is then to walk the cart; i.e., use the power, willingness, desire he has given us to obey him.

 

[newbirth]

Agreed. . .but it is the meaning of Scripture.

The heavy lifting, the heavy work in obedience is the power to obey, and the willingness and desire to obey.

We cannot lift that load, God himself must lift it and put it on the cart.

Our job is then to walk the cart; i.e., use the power, willingness, desire he has given us to obey him.

God gave you power to obey...he said take my yoke ...are not two yoked together? you must obey as he obeyed, walk as he walked so we can agree in all things...

 

[Elin]

God gave you power to obey

Agreed. . .couldn't do it otherwise.

 

[Jason0047]

you are just playing with words
Colossians 1:27
To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:

change your mindset...
Philippians 2:5-10King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]5 [/SUP]Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
[SUP]6 [/SUP]Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
[SUP]7 [/SUP]But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
[SUP]8 [/SUP]And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

[SUP]9 [/SUP]Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
[SUP]10 [/SUP]That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;

Who has began the good work within you?

(a) You.
(b) Christ.

Correct answer is (b) Christ. See Philippians 1:6.

Being filled with the fruits of righteousness which are by _________.

(a) Oneself.
(b) Jesus Christ.

Correct answer is (b) Jesus Christ. See Philippians 1:11

For it is __________ that worketh in you, to will and to do of His good pleasure.

(a) Oneself working under the power of God.
(b) God.
(c) The might of your own spirit.

Correct answer is (b) God. See Philippians 2:13.

I can do all things through __________ which strengthens me.

(a) By the arm of my flesh
(b) Christ
(c) God's power

Correct answer is (b) Christ. See Philippians 4:13.

I labored more abundantly than they all, yet not _______ but the "grace of God" that was with me.

(a) God.
(b) I

The Correct answer is: (b) I. See 1 Corinthians 15:10.

Side Note: Jesus Christ is the "Grace of God." In other words, God's grace is a person (See John 1:14, 16, 17; c.f. 1 John 5:12).

Do I need to keep going down the list of the other verses I posted?

 

[Bowman]

If we are saved by grace, why are we judged by our deeds?

The Righteous are NOT judged!

If you find yourself before the judgment seat, then that means that you are NOT saved, and the only thing from which to compare yourself to, is your deeds.

I just don't understand why the false concept is floating around that everyone is to be judged.

Jesus, Himself, tells us that The Righteous are NOT judged...judgment is reserved ONLY for the unrighteous.

The Righteous are the ones who worship God as Triune.

 

[Flamingspirit]

The Righteous are NOT judged!

If you find yourself before the judgment seat, then that means that you are NOT saved, and the only thing from which to compare yourself to, is your deeds.

I just don't understand why the false concept is floating around that everyone is to be judged.

Jesus, Himself, tells us that The Righteous are NOT judged...judgment is reserved ONLY for the unrighteous.

The Righteous are the ones who worship God as Triune.

At least you do not hide your hate. I like that you are not afraid to say that anyone who does not believe in a triune God will burn for it. Of course on the other hand if a murderer believes in the trinity maybe he might get the benefit of the doubt, right?

 

[cfultz3]

The Righteous are NOT judged!

The righteous are not condemned. All deeds are judged, those we righteous ones have left over are eternally rewarded.

If you find yourself before the judgment seat, then that means that you are NOT saved, and the only thing from which to compare yourself to, is your deeds.

Even those on His right hand side during judgment are not saved, although they are given everlasting life, as opposed to those on His left who are given an everlasting destruction from His presence?

I just don't understand why the false concept is floating around that everyone is to be judged.

All deeds will be judged and rewarded accordingly. They who are on His right, because of their faith, will be saved by the Fire.

Jesus, Himself, tells us that The Righteous are NOT judged...

Correct, we are not condemned.

judgment is reserved ONLY for the unrighteous.

Correct, condemnation is reserved ONLY for the unrighteous (those not justified).

The Righteous are the ones who worship God as Triune.

Those who are found innocent (righteous, justified) are those who are from Christ's faith.

 

[JesusIsAll]

The righteous are not condemned. All deeds are judged, those we righteous ones have left over are eternally rewarded.

There's no judgment of condemnation for those in Christ, rather eternal life, but there is a judgment of the righteous,

Romans 14:10-12says, “For we will all stand before God’s judgment seat…so then, each of us will give an account of himself to God.”Second Corinthians 5:10tells us, “For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive what is due him for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad.” In the context, it is clear that both scriptures are referring to Christians, not unbelievers. The judgment seat of Christ, therefore, involves believers giving an account of their lives to Christ. The judgment seat of Christ does not determine salvation; that was determined by Christ’s sacrifice on our behalf (1 John 2:2) and our faith in Him (John 3:16). All of our sins are forgiven, and we will never be condemned for them (Romans 8:1). We should not look at the judgment seat of Christ as God judging our sins, but rather as God rewarding us for our lives. Yes, as the Bible says, we will have to give an account of ourselves.

Read more:What is the Judgment Seat of Christ / Bema Seat of Christ?

I've also seen Christian defendants on People's Court.

 

[Bowman]

At least you do not hide your hate. I like that you are not afraid to say that anyone who does not believe in a triune God will burn for it. Of course on the other hand if a murderer believes in the trinity maybe he might get the benefit of the doubt, right?

We've been through this drill before.

You are confusing my confidence in scripture with arrogance.

 

[Bowman]

The righteous are not condemned. All deeds are judged, those we righteous ones have left over are eternally rewarded.

The deeds of the unrighteous are used at judgment.

Deeds of Righteous do not need judgment.

Even those on His right hand side during judgment are not saved, although they are given everlasting life, as opposed to those on His left who are given an everlasting destruction from His presence?

Scripture?

Those who are found innocent (righteous, justified) are those who are from Christ's faith.

And what is Christ's 'faith'...?

 

[Flamingspirit]

We've been through this drill before.

You are confusing my confidence in scripture with arrogance.

Not really. I'm just glad you don't have the final say.

 

[Bowman]

There's no judgment of condemnation for those in Christ, rather eternal life, but there is a judgment of the righteous,

Romans 14:10-12says, “For we will all stand before God’s judgment seat…so then, each of us will give an account of himself to God.”Second Corinthians 5:10tells us, “For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive what is due him for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad.” In the context, it is clear that both scriptures are referring to Christians, not unbelievers. The judgment seat of Christ, therefore, involves believers giving an account of their lives to Christ. The judgment seat of Christ does not determine salvation; that was determined by Christ’s sacrifice on our behalf (1 John 2:2) and our faith in Him (John 3:16). All of our sins are forgiven, and we will never be condemned for them (Romans 8:1). We should not look at the judgment seat of Christ as God judging our sins, but rather as God rewarding us for our lives. Yes, as the Bible says, we will have to give an account of ourselves.

Read more:What is the Judgment Seat of Christ / Bema Seat of Christ?

I've also seen Christian defendants on People's Court.

John 5.24 -29

Truly, truly, I say to you, The one who hears My Word, and believes the One who has sent Me, has everlasting life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life. Truly, truly, I say to you that an hour is coming, and now is, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God, and the ones hearing will live. For even as the Father has life in Himself, so He gave also to the Son to have life in Himself. And He also gave authority to Him to execute judgment, for He is the Son of Man.Do not marvel at this, for an hour is coming in which all those in the tombswill hear His voice. And they will come out, the ones having practiced good into a resurrection of life; the ones having done evil into a resurrection of judgment.

 

[Bowman]

study up...

Of course on the other hand if a murderer believes in the trinity maybe he might get the benefit of the doubt, right?

Let's see...

King David had an affair with Bathsheba and then murdered her husband....

 

[Flamingspirit]

Re: study up...

Let's see...

King David had an affair with Bathsheba and then murdered her husband....

And yet you will let someone burn for not believing in a trinity. What does this say about God compared to you?

 

[Bowman]

Re: study up...

And yet you will let someone burn for not believing in a trinity. What does this say about God compared to you?

Scripture is clear.

If you deny The Creator, as He has revealed Himself, Triune....then you are toast.

Deal with it...and stop blaming me.....liberal...

 

[Flamingspirit]

Re: study up...

Scripture is clear.

If you deny The Creator, as He has revealed Himself, Triune....then you are toast.

Deal with it...and stop blaming me.....liberal...

So David who killed a man and took his wife is all good, but if you don't believe in something that even David didn't mention, you're a cooked goose huh? Again thank God salvation is NOT found in Bowman.

 

[newbirth]

Who has began the good work within you?

(a) You.
(b) Christ.

Correct answer is (b) Christ. See Philippians 1:6.

you have to do the work coming out of you

Being filled with the fruits of righteousness which are by _________.

(a) Oneself.
(b) Jesus Christ.
Correct answer is (b) Jesus Christ. See Philippians 1:11

you still have to do righteousness

For it is __________ that worketh in you, to will and to do of His good pleasure.

(a) Oneself working under the power of God.
(b) God.
(c) The might of your own spirit.

Correct answer is (b) God. See Philippians 2:13.

He works in you ...you will and you do

I can do all things through __________ which strengthens me.

(a) By the arm of my flesh
(b) Christ
(c) God's power

Correct answer is (b) Christ. See Philippians 4:13.

you can do it through Christ

I labored more abundantly than they all, yet not _______ but the "grace of God" that was with me.

(a) God.
(b) I

The Correct answer is: (b) I. See 1 Corinthians 15:10.

Side Note: Jesus Christ is the "Grace of God." In other words, God's grace is a person (See John 1:14, 16, 17; c.f. 1 John 5:12).

He does it by the grace of God

Do I need to keep going down the list of the other verses I posted?

what are you trying to prove?

The HS leads...we submit and follow
God gives us the power to do....we obey the word... we give him the glory and the praise...you have not proven otherwise....

 

[cfultz3]

The deeds of the unrighteous are used at judgment.

Deeds of Righteous do not need judgment.

Every deed will be judged:

1Co 3:13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.​

Scripture?

Scripture as to those on His left and those on His right during judgment:

Mat 25:32-33 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats: And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
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As pertaining to those on His left:

2Th 1:9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;​

As pertaining to those on His right:

1Co 3:13-15 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.​

And what is Christ's 'faith'...?

That religious system, belief system (G4102 (noun of the verb (G4100))), Christ set-up during the introduction of God's new Covenant. That system which one places faith (G4100 (trust)) in Jesus. Specifically, that religious system which came from Him personally.

 

[Bowman]

Re: study up...

So David who killed a man and took his wife is all good, but if you don't believe in something that even David didn't mention, you're a cooked goose huh? Again thank God salvation is NOT found in Bowman.

David was Trinitarian before, during, and after his extra marital affair and subsequent murdering of Bathsheba's former husband.

Deal with it...

 

[Bowman]

Every deed will be judged:

1Co 3:13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.​

No.

This is in context to the one building his trust in material things...

Scripture as to those on His left and those on His right during judgment:

Mat 25:32-33 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats: And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
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No mention of judgment to those on the Right.



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As pertaining to those on His right:

1Co 3:13-15 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.​

Ah no....

We already went over this...

This is in context to the one building his trust in material things...you conveniently forgot the previous verse...

That religious system, belief system (G4102 (noun of the verb (G4100))), Christ set-up during the introduction of God's new Covenant. That system which one places faith (G4100 (trust)) in Jesus. Specifically, that religious system which came from Him personally.

What kind of a reply is this?