The view: "Husbands are just another child to raise"

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Shawn2516 said:
If women are raising the children, then why are they complaining their sons aren't turning into men?

Also, men is the only gender that gets told to "fix himself". Hey, your not doing X, Y, Z.. MAN UP!

Right.. because manning up solves every problem. Next time a girl has her tire blown out on the side of the road.. instead of helping her, i'll tell her to Woman Up!

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Your first point has Some credibility. And i agree that the whole 'man up' thing is pretty lame and useless. But to turn around and act the same way, making blanket statements about all women and treating them in the same manner you feel you're treated is going to do what? Essentially all you've done is become the opposite gender version of what you're complaining about. You're now no different.
 
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Shawn2516 said:
If women are raising the children, then why are they complaining their sons aren't turning into men?

Also, men is the only gender that gets told to "fix himself". Hey, your not doing X, Y, Z.. MAN UP!

Right.. because manning up solves every problem. Next time a girl has her tire blown out on the side of the road.. instead of helping her, i'll tell her to Woman Up!

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Unfortunately it is because a lot of women are raising those kids ALONE that their sons aren't turning into "men." Not enough men are "MAN'ing UP" and taking care of their own kids. We are called to be leaders and in a lot of ways we are failing. We can't blame television, politics, feminists - we allowed it to happen. Instead of grabbing kids by the neck and taking them to church, we were good with letting them sleep in or "find themselves."

It's on us.
 
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Donkeyfish07 said:
Ha ha, I actually agree with this persons point. I would be such a horrible husband. I'd probably honestly reply to "your such a child all the time", and I'd be like yep you are 100% right dear....say "go make me a sandwich mom"......and just pop in Aladdin on DVD. Not just to make a point, I would loooove it....and I would watch the whole thing. Of course you know she ain't making that sandwhich, but that's the plan.......now it's time to go grab a half gallon of chocolate ice cream and a spoon....no bowl, and just sit there and enjoy the fabulous songs that only a disney movie can provide. Then when you get yelled at for eating ice cream at 10 oclock in the morning you could just be like, you gotta learn how to raise your kids better mom.....if you don't feed them you can't blame them for eating whatever they get their hands on. lol, ya know this marriage thing don't sound so bad now that I see these new possibilities for amusement.

Anytime you fail to listen, she's a bad parent. lol.
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What are we gonna do with you, DF? :p
 
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Hahahah I got no problem with that. Women are crazy. We have control issues, we're told that we are supposed to be on the exact same footing as men. Or more often that we're POWERFUL and we have to take power back from the men blah blah blah. I even seen some of the members here seem to adopt that attitude. That women can never be to blame for anything, it's our male society. This to me is bull. Women may have more issues than men.
 
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i haven't really read any of this but it's silly to use broad, sweeping generalizations about either sex. that's sexism and stereotyping, any way you slice the fruit.

blaming one or the other is scapegoating.

like i said, i haven't really read... nor do i have the energy. but one gender ( as a group ) having more problems than the other ? yah, whatever.

seems like this is common knowledge at this point, or should be.

someone on a thread recently said something to the effect of ' gender wars make me sad. ' ( paraphrased ) i agree.

i will admit to recently liking a post by someone who said something to the effect of ' we ( women ) don't really need them ( men ) anyway ' ( paraphrased )

okay, sorry. i did ' like ' that. ( i have my reasons. ) doesn't mean i hate them or think being a woman makes me better, though.

and i'm definitely not going to put down my own gender. no thanks! as the old country song goes ' sometimes it's hard to be a woman... '

( i didn't read the OP. )
 
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PennEd said:
Every ad, Every sit-com, Every oprah-like show, the man, especially the father is portrayed as bumbling idiot.Here is one of my faves, and pretty much sums exactly what you are talking about...


[video=youtube;G9WpDp6DwQU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9WpDp6DwQU[/video]
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i just started reading the OP and some of the replies.

what a strange commercial.

these kinds of threads make my head spin. it reminds me of the phrase ' art is subjective. '

gender issues are subjective. it's difficult not to get emotional and not ' like ' certain posts, when some of us have had really sour experiences with those who were/are supposed to be ' role models ' of a specific gender in our lives or seen them in someone else's or many other's lives.

after you have a bad imprint it's a challenge ( especially at first ) not to subconsciously attract the same kind of character who hurt you into your life as a mate or not see them everywhere.
 
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Maybe we just need to say we all have issues, let's deal with them on a personal basis.
 
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ArtsieSteph said:
Maybe we just need to say we all have issues, let's deal with them on a personal basis.
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i agree. i'm an INTJ personality type and i see myself getting emotional and burning out on this thread real quick. i do not need to have another episode *laughs*

better stick to the light and fluffy side for a while or this runna ain't gon finish dat race.
 
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lav said:
i agree. i'm an INTJ personality type and i see myself getting emotional and burning out on this thread real quick. i do not need to have another episode *laughs*

better stick to the light and fluffy side for a while or this runna ain't gon finish dat race.
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INTJ? Goodness me, some say that your type is a rarity! :)

Coming back to the topic, I think both genders have their own faults. And the influence of social cultures and the media has only made it messier. It is time we acknowledge that neither of us are perfect. And that we have our differences. Like they say 'Women are from Venus, Men are from Mars.' But hey, we are living on earth. So we have to figure out a way to move out of our comfort zones and meet each-other half-way.

Compromises and adjustments are the only way you can make a relationship work. There can not be a perennial giver and a perennial taker. Of course, I would not say that you must compromise on your values for the sake of your partner. I am referring to the other things that constitute a relationship - household chores, rest/entertainment activities, shopping, travelling, hobbies, etc.
 
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Roh_Chris said:
INTJ? Goodness me, some say that your type is a rarity! :)

Coming back to the topic, I think both genders have their own faults. And the influence of social cultures and the media has only made it messier. It is time we acknowledge that neither of us are perfect. And that we have our differences. Like they say 'Women are from Venus, Men are from Mars.' But hey, we are living on earth. So we have to figure out a way to move out of our comfort zones and meet each-other half-way.

Compromises and adjustments are the only way you can make a relationship work. There can not be a perennial giver and a perennial taker. Of course, I would not say that you must compromise on your values for the sake of your partner. I am referring to the other things that constitute a relationship - household chores, rest/entertainment activities, shopping, travelling, hobbies, etc.
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I think it's less of a rarity then you think. There's a lot of us on here. Or maybe it's just these types of forums attract us.
 
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violakat said:
I think it's less of a rarity then you think. There's a lot of us on here. Or maybe it's just these types of forums attract us.
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Yep. I've been tested INTJ. Sometimes I feel like a stranger in a strange land.
 
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lav said:
i agree. i'm an INTJ personality type and i see myself getting emotional and burning out on this thread real quick. i do not need to have another episode *laughs*

better stick to the light and fluffy side for a while or this runna ain't gon finish dat race.
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I'm a....was it....ESFP. So like the probably most common type out there lol.

And thanks tourist! :D Yeah it might be a couple by couple basis too...
 
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The issue here is not a gender issue. It is an issue of the heart and of the flesh. If an individual (married or not) acts like a child. The heart of the problem is most likely self-centered selfishness.

This condition has many forms and strikes both sexes and all age groups and relational status.

This is why it is sooo important to let God guide you to the right spouse in His timing, and make your relationship with the Lord, more important then your relationship with a person.
 
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Let's turn this around:

I'm wondering why so many women are running their lives as immature rageaholic girls in their marriages which usually end in divorce these days (e.g. 40%–50% of all first marriages and 60% of second marriages will end in divorce). After all, people joke all the time that women are out for nothing but a bigger better deal and will jettison their loyal husband in divorce court at the first whiff of a better looking man with more money. The statistics certainly show women cheat just as much as men do and party just as hard (and look at the rapid rise of poor single mothers). Are we as a nation causing women to become less than responsible from childbirth on up spoon feeding them radical feminism and entitlement ideology? Are many becoming less responsible because the expectations are just not there to be moral, godly women committed to nuclear families? What do you think?
 
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AgeofKnowledge said:
Let's turn this around:

I'm wondering why so many women are running their lives as immature rageaholic girls in their marriages which usually end in divorce these days (e.g. 40%–50% of all first marriages and 60% of second marriages will end in divorce). After all, people joke all the time that women are out for nothing but a bigger better deal and will jettison their loyal husband in divorce court at the first whiff of a better looking man with more money. The statistics certainly show women cheat just as much as men do and party just as hard (and look at the rapid rise of poor single mothers). Are we as a nation causing women to become less than responsible from childbirth on up spoon feeding them radical feminism and entitlement ideology? Are many becoming less responsible because the expectations are just not there to be moral, godly women committed to nuclear families? What do you think?
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This thread happily died over a month ago. However, the "peacemaker" thread is alive and well, and you should check it out. :)
 
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So are you the zombie (thread) queen or what? I've lost count of how many thread you have disintered lately.
 
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