Should We Still Keep the Feasts

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Should We keep The Feasts


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Some people make the distinction between Israel and Gentiles. I do not. Both are God's people, and the commands to one apply to the other equally.
Oh, so the Church has replaced Israel? I'm not into replacement theology.
Next, we as the Church will be obligated to keep all 613?
What bondage.
 
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So then what other nation(s) or people(s) did God ever put under the Mosaic laws of the Old Testament? For that matter, when was the Mosaic law even delivered to the likes of China or Tahiti?
this doesn't make any sense at all. When we read that the Lord created the world and people, I don't think He said anything about China and Tahiti. God created a people to train in His ways especially, he did it for our benefit, and we call them Jews, but even they were seen as the same as all other people as far as being loved and cared for.
 

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Isn't it interesting, God calls them HIS Feast days so most professing Christians get apoplectic when someone mentions keeping them.
You are judging those who don't keep them by say "professing Christians", I know exactly what you mean by this! My only beef is when you tell me I have to keep them.
 

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Oh, so the Church has replaced Israel? I'm not into replacement theology.
Next, we as the Church will be obligated to keep all 613?
What bondage.
ehem, excuse me, I love yah brother and you got it right on this topic here IMO, except you say you don't believe in replacement theology, you believe Natural Israel replaces the Church, don't you? Sorry I got your eschatology wrong.
 

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And the church today is not the Israel of God?

Rom 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
Rom 2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

Gal 6:15 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature.
Gal 6:16 And as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on them, and mercy, and upon the Israel of God.
Rom 2 and 6 are speaking of Jewish believers in the Messiah...never mentions Church. We've been over this before.
 
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You are judging those who don't keep them by say "professing Christians", I know exactly what you mean by this! My only beef is when you tell me I have to keep them.
We know it's utter hypocrisy, constantly trying to place other Christians under bondage, statements of how we are commanded to keep Jewish laws, what's so ridiculous this as some sort of bastard Jew-lites of a law subset, at that, when the Bible teaches, if you keep the law, you must keep it all. Yes, "professing Christians." And "Satanic heresy" to refuse that corpse on your back they carry around. This is the crux of it all, a damnable self righteousness from some condemning, modern day Pharisees. I'm not afraid to call a spade a spade.
 
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Lev 23:1 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
Lev 23:2 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, Concerning the feasts of the LORD, which ye shall proclaim to be holy convocations, even these are my feasts.
Lev 23:3 Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day is the sabbath of rest, an holy convocation; ye shall do no work therein: it is the sabbath of the LORD in all your dwellings.
Lev 23:4 These are the feasts of the LORD, even holy convocations, which ye shall proclaim in their seasons.

Either you don't really read the O.T. or yours has a misprint.
SPEAK UNTO THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL - I am not part of the children of Israel - I am in the group wherein we are all one in Christ - the "church", the body of Christ where there is neither Jew [children of Israel] nor Gentile [stranger/alien].

Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holy day, or of the new moon, or of the Sabbath: Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ. Colossians 2:16,17

These Feasts are prophetic shadows and reveal the overall timeline of events in God's plan of redemption. They give details about what is going to happen in many of the events and give us an understanding of why as the events unfold. Therefore - I agree that they are important to our overall understanding of events in scripture - especially the ones that haven't unfolded as yet but are still shadows.

I also agree in keeping a day, any day, set aside for a day of rest - And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made. - God took the seventh day because he had worked 6 straight days. What if I work split shift? What if I work weekends? I believe that all of us need a day to "do nothing" in order to replenish strength to our bodies - physically and with time alone with God with nothing interfering. . Am I wrong in that I cannot keep my "day of rest" on a Saturday or Sunday? - I don't think so because I am still honoring God by keeping one day set aside to "do nothing".

Anyways - I love God every day and try to set aside time for JUST HIM every day. {but there are days I actually do nothing!}:cool:
 

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You are judging those who don't keep them by say "professing Christians", I know exactly what you mean by this! My only beef is when you tell me I have to keep them.
That is how most people feel about obeying God...

"Don't tell me what to do."
 
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He kept them because He was a Jew before the New Convent was implemented and His earthly ministry wasn't over. Jesus is the fulfillment of all these things. If was so important to keep the feast, Jesus would have made it sure by telling us after His resurrection. Jesus wouldn't have been silent if was such an important thing.
So then you do not believe it's important to remember the day Christ died, the escape from the slavery of sin, the sustenance God gives to us, and the hope in Christ for the future? That's what the feasts are all about. Past, present, and future. It is evident that you haven't studied them. I feel sorry that you don't know.
 
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The Pharisees sure messed up the truth of it all thinking they were so much more righteous than anybody else practicing distorted truth on top of having no faith.
The Pharisees and the Jews were made ignorant to the Gospel by the Living GOD, by fulfilling HIS will, according to the prediction of the Prophets of the Old Testament, to make them send JESUS to the Cross for the world's Salvation, so that the Gospel shall go to the Gentiles, to welcome and come in 'abiding' according to the New Covenant and be set free from bondage of carnal/flesh in sin and death, working in their lives.

Please do not be in ignorant of the established written Scripture that justify Grace and Truth, in order for you Gentiles, not to be proud of your acceptance as adopted and put down the children Jews then and today, even the pharisees then, who still remain favored because of the promise GOD made with Abraham, whom GOD Himself made ignorant towards CHRIST of the Gospel, until a coming time in the future that the Gospel shall go back to them
 
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J Vernon McGee observed that when the Lord gave Israel the Law of Moses, it had feasts, but not fasts. And sure enough, if you search the Torah for "fast," you don't find it. However, the Great Day of Atonement was a fast, though the word "fast" is not used there. I think that Acts refers to it as "the fast." I think that "afflict one's soul" with ref to the Day of Atonement, implies fast.

Now these things in Moses are shadows & types, done away with at the cross, with all the Law, though part of the Law is of universal application (like love neighbor as self).

Now as for me, I greatly prefer feasts to fasts.
I don't find fasts commanded to the Church.
The problem with feasts is that I gain weight easily, so I have to búffet my body instead of bufféting my body.

But as a rule, let's vote in favor of keeping feasts, like Thanksgiving & Christmas Dinner.
How well I recall our annual "Rally Day" at church, where we had this humungous spread on the lawn after church that special Sunday. I think that Sunday must have been the most attended Sunday of the year.

Should we start Belly-Christian's Anonymous?
 

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So then you do not believe it's important to remember the day Christ died, the escape from the slavery of sin, the sustenance God gives to us, and the hope in Christ for the future? That's what the feasts are all about. Past, present, and future. It is evident that you haven't studied them. I feel sorry that you don't know.
Great things to remember. And I should be happy to discuss them with you seated at a huge pot luck supper at church, as I chow down on chicken and mashed potatoes. Feasting!
 
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I think a lot of these ideas against scripture are absolutely ridiculous!

Some insist the law is bondage, and not listening to any of it is freedom.

If anyone reads and believes in anything in the OT they don't find repeated in the NT word for word, they are Jewites, or any way to be sneered at.

That God should be scolded and put to task for any of the 613 laws without once reading them in spirit and truth or seeing the love of man and care of man the Lord expressed in them. God is especially ripped apart and scolded for suggesting stoning, saying it is not getting rid of what harms people but terrible punishment on innocent people. These same people would scream about our governments getting rid of our prisons and letting criminals go to harm us!

Using the "we are under grace not law" as a reason to get rid of all law.

Saying that all Hebrews, Jews, Israelites are so different than we are that anything God spoke to them wasn't for us at all, we are too separate a race.

Saying that because we are given the Holy Spirit and the law is written on our hearts it means that this law on our hearts is a very different law than scripture law so we should not read scripture law.

And the real cincher is this idea that you can have faith in the Lord and His words and disregard thar God gave a special blessing on one day out of seven with special instructions to us for that day. Saying they are so pure and wonderful as Christians that they treat every day as that special day so are exempt from the word.
 
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Now these things in Moses are shadows & types, done away with at the cross, with all the Law, though part of the Law is of universal application (like love neighbor as self).
You know perfectly well that Christ did not do away with all the shadows of Him. Christ would not go against how our world is made and our world in not created in such a way that shadows of things can be done away with.

Every bit of shadows are there when the thing they are a shadow of is in view complete with all the colors. It is the same way with the shadows of Christ.
 
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The Pharisees and the Jews were made ignorant to the Gospel by the Living GOD, by fulfilling HIS will, according to the prediction of the Prophets of the Old Testament, to make them send JESUS to the Cross for the world's Salvation, so that the Gospel shall go to the Gentiles, to welcome and come in 'abiding' according to the New Covenant and be set free from bondage of carnal/flesh in sin and death, working in their lives.

Please do not be in ignorant of the established written Scripture that justify Grace and Truth, in order for you Gentiles, not to be proud of your acceptance as adopted and put down the children Jews then and today, even the pharisees then, who still remain favored because of the promise GOD made with Abraham, whom GOD Himself made ignorant towards CHRIST of the Gospel, until a coming time in the future that the Gospel shall go back to them
So you say not to be ignorant. Looking at what I highlighted in your writing your statement appears to come very close to blasphemy. I hope that I am reading it wrong. Jesus told them that God wasn't their Father. I think their ignorance was because of their own outlook toward the truth. They didn't see it because of an egotistical attitude of thinking themselves more righteous than others by a distorted law that they had made for themselves.

John 8:44
Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do . He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Matthew 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment , mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done , and not to leave the other undone .

I hold to my statement that "The Pharisees sure messed up the truth of it all thinking they were so much more righteous than anybody else practicing distorted truth on top of having no faith." I do agree however that God can use evil to fulfill His purpose, but He is not the Minister of ignorance and corruption.

Love ya man, but we are not on the same page on this one.
 
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KohenMatt

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Oh, so the Church has replaced Israel? I'm not into replacement theology.
Next, we as the Church will be obligated to keep all 613?
What bondage.
No, the Church has not replaced Israel of the OT. The 2 are made one.

It's only bondage if you make it a list of burdens. I see it as a joyous opportunity to serve my God with every second of my life.
 

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So then what other nation(s) or people(s) did God ever put under the Mosaic laws of the Old Testament? For that matter, when was the Mosaic law even delivered to the likes of China or Tahiti?
this doesn't make any sense at all. When we read that the Lord created the world and people, I don't think He said anything about China and Tahiti. God created a people to train in His ways especially, he did it for our benefit, and we call them Jews, but even they were seen as the same as all other people as far as being loved and cared for.
And when God's people would come in contact with other nations, they had the opportunity to enter into that covenant with God as well.