Should We Still Keep the Feasts

[just-me]

I know all things were created by Him. When did God give the feasts? Leviticus 23, not before. They teach the plan of salvation. God gave the instruction and they followed. You cannot say they were there before Leviticus 23. They sacrificed but did not have the sanctuary before, or the services involved with it.

Exodus 12:14 And this day shall be unto you for a memorial; and ye shall keep it a feast to the LORD throughout your generations; ye shall keep it a feast by an ordinance for ever. (this is the feast of unleavened bread)

Exodus 12:17
And ye shall observe the feast of unleavened bread; for in this selfsame day have I brought your armies out of the land of Egypt: therefore shall ye observe this day in your generations by an ordinance for ever.

This is the first feast of the year.

 

[Laodicea]

Exodus 12:14 And this day shall be unto you for a memorial; and ye shall keep it a feast to the LORD throughout your generations; ye shall keep it a feast by an ordinance for ever. (this is the feast of unleavened bread)

Exodus 12:17
And ye shall observe the feast of unleavened bread; for in this selfsame day have I brought your armies out of the land of Egypt: therefore shall ye observe this day in your generations by an ordinance for ever.

This is the first feast of the year.

That was only passover but not a detailed list as in Leviticus 23. Also no sanctuary or services. In Genesis there is no sanctuary or sanctuary services. It looks like you are finding it hard to admit anything others are saying. As I said before, while I do not keep the feasts that does not mean we do not study and learn from them as there are wonderful truths.

There are many sanctuary themes in Daniel & Revelation. In Genesis there are no sanctuary or services or feasts as given to Israel in Exodus.

At creation there was given the 7th day Sabbath but, not ceremonial sabbaths. So which then is more important the 7th day sabbath or the ceremonial sabbaths?

 

[just-me]

That was only passover but not a detailed list as in Leviticus 23. Also no sanctuary or services. In Genesis there is no sanctuary or sanctuary services. It looks like you are finding it hard to admit anything others are saying. As I said before, while I do not keep the feasts that does not mean we do not study and learn from them as there are wonderful truths.

There are many sanctuary themes in Daniel & Revelation. In Genesis there are no sanctuary or services or feasts as given to Israel in Exodus.

At creation there was given the 7th day Sabbath but, not ceremonial sabbaths. So which then is more important the 7th day sabbath or the ceremonial sabbaths?

Exodus 34:22 And thou shalt observe the feast of weeks, of the firstfruits of wheat harvest, and the feast of ingathering at the year's end. (this is the 2nd feast)

Deuteronomy 16:12-13
12 And thou shalt remember that thou wast a bondman in Egypt: and thou shalt observe and do these statutes.
13 Thou shalt observe the feast of tabernacles seven days, after that thou hast gathered in thy corn and thy wine: (this is the 3rd feast)

Deuteronomy 16:14-16
14 And thou shalt rejoice in thy feast, thou, and thy son, and thy daughter, and thy manservant, and thy maidservant, and the Levite, the stranger, and the fatherless, and the widow, that are within thy gates.
15 Seven days shalt thou keep a solemn feast unto the LORD thy God in the place which the LORD shall choose : because the LORD thy God shall bless thee in all thine increase, and in all the works of thine hands, therefore thou shalt surely rejoice.
16 Three times in a year shall all thy males appear before the LORD thy God in the place which he shall choose ; in the feast of unleavened bread, and in the feast of weeks, and in the feast of tabernacles: and they shall not appear before the LORD empty:

Exodus 12:7 And the children of Israel journeyed from Rameses to Succoth, about six hundred thousand on foot that were men, beside children.

Numbers 3:5 And the children of Israel removed from Rameses, and pitched in Succoth.

Tabernacles = 5521 cukkah sook-kaw' fem of 5520; a hut or lair:--**booth, cottage, covert, pavilion, tabernacle, tent.
5523 Cukkowth sook-kohth' or Cukkoth {sook-kohth'}; plural of 5521; booths; Succoth, the name of a place in Egypt and of three in Palestine:-- Succoth.
*5520 cok soke from 5526; a hut (as of entwined boughs); also a lair:-- covert, den, pavilion, tabernacle.

So I agree that the 3 feast mentioned have everything to do with the foreshadowing of salvation through Christ Jesus. They were all instituted before the Leviticus records. Then God tells Israel why this feast is to be observe in *Leviticus 23:42-43

42 Ye shall dwell in booths seven days; all that are Israelites born shall dwell in **booths:
43 That your generations may know that I made the children of Israel to dwell in **booths, when I brought them out of the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.

 

[just-me]

That was only passover but not a detailed list as in Leviticus 23. Also no sanctuary or services. In Genesis there is no sanctuary or sanctuary services. It looks like you are finding it hard to admit anything others are saying. As I said before, while I do not keep the feasts that does not mean we do not study and learn from them as there are wonderful truths.

There are many sanctuary themes in Daniel & Revelation. In Genesis there are no sanctuary or services or feasts as given to Israel in Exodus.

At creation there was given the 7th day Sabbath but, not ceremonial sabbaths. So which then is more important the 7th day sabbath or the ceremonial sabbaths?

They are all important when reading about Jesus' crucifixion. The annual sabbath was called a "High day." This was during the week, and was the first full day Jesus was in the tomb the day after He died on the cross. It was the first day of the feast of unleavened bread celebrating Passover. The weekly Sabbath was the last day of the week. The women that prepared spices for Jesus' body between those 2 days.

John 13:1 Now before the feast of the passover, when Jesus knew that his hour was come that he should depart out of this world unto the Father, having loved his own which were in the world, he loved them unto the end.

John 19:31 The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken , and that they might be taken away .

Luke 23:56 56 And they returned , and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the sabbath day according to the commandment.

Luke 24:1 Now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning , they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared , and certain others with them.

 

[crossnote]

The reason "gentiles" should keep the Feasts is to be obedient to God's commands, because we love Him. John 14:5

Oh, you mean the commands to Israel?

 

[crossnote]

You know that Jesus is never recorded as telling anyone to keep the feasts but it is evident that He kept them. We should however do as He did.

John 7:2 and 14 Now the Jews' feast of tabernacles was at hand. Now about the midst of the feast Jesus went up into the temple, and taught.

Philippians 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:

The feasts were part of the Levitical law. Cursed is the man who abides not in doing the whole law...have fun.

 

[john832]

Where in the NT does Jesus tell us to keep them?

Where does He tell us not to?

1Pe 2:21 For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps:

We should follow in His steps. (But not do what He did?)

What did He do?

Luk 4:16 And he came into the Nazareth, where he was having been brought up; and entered, according to the custom to him in the day of the sabbaths, into the synagogue; and stood up to read.

What did Christ say about the Sabbath?

Mar 2:27 And he said to them: The sabbath because of the man was made, not the man because of the sabbath.
Mar 2:28 So that a lord is the son of the man even of the sabbath.

He didn't say "Oops, I made a mistake back there during creation week." now did He?
the example of Paul was to keep the Sabbath...

Act 17:2 And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them, and three sabbath days reasoned with them out of the scriptures,

And the writer of Hebrews plainly tells us to keep it...

Heb 4:9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.

And we know what the word for rest here is, it is Sabbatismos...

The Diaglott translates this...

Heb 4:9 Therefore remains a keeping of a sabbath for the people of the God.

My Oxford Bible has "keeping of a Sabbath" in the margin here.

Now show me all the scriptures that say "don't keep the Sabbath, rather keep Sunday".

 

[john832]

The feasts were part of the Levitical law. Cursed is the man who abides not in doing the whole law...have fun.

Lev 23:1 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
Lev 23:2 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, Concerning the feasts of the LORD, which ye shall proclaim to be holy convocations, even these are my feasts.
Lev 23:3 Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day is the sabbath of rest, an holy convocation; ye shall do no work therein: it is the sabbath of the LORD in all your dwellings.
Lev 23:4 These are the feasts of the LORD, even holy convocations, which ye shall proclaim in their seasons.

Either you don't really read the O.T. or yours has a misprint.

 

[WomanLovesTX]

That was only passover but not a detailed list as in Leviticus 23. Also no sanctuary or services. In Genesis there is no sanctuary or sanctuary services. It looks like you are finding it hard to admit anything others are saying. As I said before, while I do not keep the feasts that does not mean we do not study and learn from them as there are wonderful truths.

There are many sanctuary themes in Daniel & Revelation. In Genesis there are no sanctuary or services or feasts as given to Israel in Exodus.

At creation there was given the 7th day Sabbath but, not ceremonial sabbaths. So which then is more important the 7th day sabbath or the ceremonial sabbaths?

Genesis 1:14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:


Psalm 104:19 He appointed the moon for seasons: the sun knoweth his going down.

No sanctuary or ceremonial sabbaths at creation? Yes, but from creation the "signs and seasons" were created, thus the heavenly sanctuary and all ceremonial sabbaths were created before being presented.

 

[john832]

Oh, you mean the commands to Israel?

Ah, you mean this one?

Isa 66:23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.

If yours says "Jewish flesh" then it has misprints, if not, then it confirms that you don't really read the O.T., you take what other people say about it for granted.

 

[JesusIsAll]

Oh, you mean the commands to Israel?

Are you implying these laws were never meant for ambiguously Christian Gentiles?

 

[JesusIsAll]

The feasts were part of the Levitical law. Cursed is the man who abides not in doing the whole law...have fun.

Does the Lord notice everything? I jotted a tittle the other day and have been very worried, since, that the Lord may no longer be impressed by my righteousness, though I do still adamantly believe I am holier than thou. Well, back to memorizing all the sabbath threads...

 

[royalscot]

Institution of the Passover
[SUP]Exodus 12: The Passover
43 And the L[/SUP][SUP]ORD said to Moses and Aaron, "This is the statute of the Passover: no foreigner shall eat of it,44 but every slave that is bought for money may eat of it after you have circumcised him.45 No foreigner or hired servant may eat of it.46 It shall be eaten in one house; you shall not take any of the flesh outside the house, and you shall not break any of its bones.47 All the congregation of Israel shall keep it.48 If a stranger shall sojourn with you and would keep the Passover to the LORD, let all his males be circumcised. Then he may come near and keep it; he shall be as a native of the land. But no uncircumcised person shall eat of it.49 There shall be one law for the native and for the stranger who sojourns among you."
50 All the people of Israel did just as the LORD commanded Moses and Aaron.51 And on that very day the LORD brought the people of Israel out of the land of Egypt by their hosts.
[/SUP]
if, you what to be part of the meal, you need to be circumcised.( [SUP]But no uncircumcised person shall eat of it)[/SUP]

and you wonder, why this is a big thing to the jewish, regarding this, agument .

 

[JesusIsAll]

[SUP]All the congregation of Israel shall keep it.48 If a stranger shall sojourn with you and would keep the Passover to the LORD, let all his males be circumcised. Then he may come near and keep it; he shall be as a native of the land. But no uncircumcised person shall eat of it.[/SUP]

Good point. This is the very reason every Gentile aspiring to impress the Lord on Passover needs to have a sharp pair of scissors. No Jew-lite should be without them.

 

[john832]

Institution of the Passover
[SUP]Exodus 12: The Passover
43 And the L[/SUP][SUP]ORD said to Moses and Aaron, "This is the statute of the Passover: no foreigner shall eat of it,44 but every slave that is bought for money may eat of it after you have circumcised him.45 No foreigner or hired servant may eat of it.46 It shall be eaten in one house; you shall not take any of the flesh outside the house, and you shall not break any of its bones.47 All the congregation of Israel shall keep it.48 If a stranger shall sojourn with you and would keep the Passover to the LORD, let all his males be circumcised. Then he may come near and keep it; he shall be as a native of the land. But no uncircumcised person shall eat of it.49 There shall be one law for the native and for the stranger who sojourns among you."
50 All the people of Israel did just as the LORD commanded Moses and Aaron.51 And on that very day the LORD brought the people of Israel out of the land of Egypt by their hosts.
[/SUP]
if, you what to be part of the meal, you need to be circumcised.( [SUP]But no uncircumcised person shall eat of it)[/SUP]

and you wonder, why this is a big thing to the jewish, regarding this, agument .

Good point. This is the very reason every Gentile aspiring to impress the Lord on Passover needs to have a sharp pair of scissors. No Jew-lite should be without them.

Since you two folks are apparently not circumcised,

Col 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
Col 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
Col 2:10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:
Col 2:11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:

Rom 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
Rom 2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

Php 3:3 For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.

Then you must not be of Christ.

 

[royalscot]

Since you two folks are apparently not circumcised,

Col 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
Col 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
Col 2:10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:
Col 2:11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:

Rom 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
Rom 2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

Php 3:3 For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.

Then you must not be of Christ.

with no temple, what law are you following.

 

[just-me]

Institution of the Passover
[SUP]Exodus 12: The Passover
43 And the L[/SUP][SUP]ORD said to Moses and Aaron, "This is the statute of the Passover: no foreigner shall eat of it,44 but every slave that is bought for money may eat of it after you have circumcised him.45 No foreigner or hired servant may eat of it.46 It shall be eaten in one house; you shall not take any of the flesh outside the house, and you shall not break any of its bones.47 All the congregation of Israel shall keep it.48 If a stranger shall sojourn with you and would keep the Passover to the LORD, let all his males be circumcised. Then he may come near and keep it; he shall be as a native of the land. But no uncircumcised person shall eat of it.49 There shall be one law for the native and for the stranger who sojourns among you."
50 All the people of Israel did just as the LORD commanded Moses and Aaron.51 And on that very day the LORD brought the people of Israel out of the land of Egypt by their hosts.
[/SUP]
if, you what to be part of the meal, you need to be circumcised.( [SUP]But no uncircumcised person shall eat of it)[/SUP]

and you wonder, why this is a big thing to the jewish, regarding this, agument .

Circumcise therefore the foreskin of your heart, and be no more stiffnecked. Deuteronomy 10:16

 

[just-me]

with no temple, what law are you following.

Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? 1 Corinthians 3:16

 

[Bookends]

John 14:5
"If you love Me, you will keep My commandments."

What are Jesus' commandments?

Hint: John 13:34

 

[Bookends]

The reason "gentiles" should keep the Feasts is to be obedient to God's commands, because we love Him. John 14:5

God didn't command us to keep the feasts, only the OT Israelites before Christ's death and resurrection.