This is such an ungodly way of looking at the Christian faith. Visit a hospice, old people's home, hospital, third world country, etc, and then see the error of your ways. You will find some of the most godly, loving, faithful Christians in circumstances that we in our comfort and health could never understand. Iraqi Christians are being slaughtered in the streets and yet you sit yourself up as being better than them just because you have more material comforts and health? Despicable. You will get sick again some day, and it will either cause you to reevaluate your present superficial, carnal faith and to understand the true Gospel of Christ, or it will cause you to lose your faith completely. For your sake I hope that it's the former.
What you call ungodly, is very God like.
You want me to look at all that is going on in the world, when God said to keep His word before our eyes. You need to take you eyes off the natural, and look at and behold the word of God.
Please don't try to speak a curse over me sir, you are hurting yourself when you do.
You are looking too much at the world, while calling me worldly, and not enough at the word of God.
I don't care if ninety nine point nine nine percent of the world's Christians were sick and poor, I would plant my feet and eyes on the solid rock of Christ, which is the word of God.
Four or five years ago, I had an attack on one of my kidneys. I had kidney stones four times before this last attack years earlier, so I know what it feels like before and during the attacks. Before, I didn't know what my rights were in Christ, nor did I know my authority over these things in Christ and through His name, nor did I know the word of God was the absolute truth, and so on.
All the other times when it hit, it would last for hours and then it would go away for one day then by the next day, I would get another attack that would again last for hours. I hated that. The last and final time, I took authority over the thing, ...after I vomited, and within 5 minutes the pain was completely gone and I have not had nor will I ever have another attack of this sort ever again. What most Christians don't understand is that it is not me doing anything, but it is the word of God. That's what God watches over and hastens to perform.
So while you think I will get sick some day that will cause me to reevaluate and lose, what you call my superficial and carnal faith, God and my tongue will ensure that doesn't ever happen. And it won't, guaranteed by the word of God.
I can't stop knowing what I know, nor can I change my faith and put it in your so called, 'true gospel of Christ', therefore it is impossible for me to lose faith because is founded and grounded in the rock of my salvation and no storm will ever be able to shake me off of it. Therefore, my house cannot fall, nor can it be moved.
Your foundation however, is on the sand because it is built on the natural things of this world and what your five physical senses tell and dictate to you and not on the word of God. Your faith is in the natural and not on the rock.
Even while some here admit that sin is the cause of sickness in the world, when you walk holy before God and do the things He has said, IT IS IMPOSSIBLE for sickness to attach itself to you. The only way I could possibly get sick is if I fall away big time from God. But, if I walk holy and in faith and love, keeping God's word before my eyes and in the midst of my heart, sickness cannot come on this body. It is impossible, by the authority of God's word. This temple WILL remain sickness and disease free, forever. Jesus IS my shield, deliverer, healer and He will keep me divinely healthy.
And stop trying to twist what people say around. We are not saying that there is anything wrong with having wealth. We are however saying that those who hold onto the prosperity gospel are in deep error. Christians can be rich and healthy, but they can also be sick and poor. Some of the greatest Christians have been those who have held their faith during deep trials and kept their love for Christ even when sick or in great need.
You might want to stop doing the same thing of twisting what we are saying, when it comes to the prosperity message.
What you are doing however, in essence, is advocating poverty. When I was a teen, I was taught and shown that Jesus was poor, so since He was one I wanted to follow and be like, I wanted to be poor and I did certain things that I thought would image His poverty stricken state.
What you may or may not know, is that people follow and act out who they idolize or look up to and want to be like.
By portraying Jesus as being poor, you are prompting and brainwashing the people of God to be like poor Jesus.
If God wants you poor or in lack, then why pray for your financial needs to be met? You would then be praying against the will of God.
If you know that the blessings of the Lord maketh you rich and that He adds no sorrow with it, then you can pray in confidence for God's blessings.
The bible says, it is more blessed to give than to receive. If you don't have anything to give, then you will always have your hand out looking for someone to give to you. Lack and poverty are not of God's blessings, but of His curses.
If you get fixated on the wealth and off of God and His word, then you have missed the message. It's not about wealth, though it is a blessing of God, it's about getting what God said He would do for your if you do what He told you to do. It's about walking holy before God, by faith, in love, and obeying His commandments, with a pure heart.
Christ spoke more about sacrifice than He did about our "rights". Start thinking about what you can do for God, not what God can do for you.
If you are sick and on your death bed, how are you going to do anything for God.
And, don't know that God gets glory when we get our prayers answered.
Joh 15:8 Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples.
Please give a Bible verse saying specifically that Jesus was rich.
How could you have possibly missed it?
You used the verse in the post I am responding to.
But I will copy it for you to see again.
It is written in the light green.
For you know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that though he was rich, yet for your sake he became poor,so that you through his poverty might become rich. (2 Corinthians 8:9)
Yes, I agree with this. However when it comes to the prosperity gospel I'm seeing quite the opposite. The love of money, self and gain is emphasized over the love of Christ.
It is no such thing. The subject of discussion is on prosperity, therefore it is centered and focused on prosperity.
Without Christ, there is nothing. How can you want anything without Christ.
If I were to gain the whole world with all it's wealth, power, pleasures, and treasures, I would give it up in less than a heart beat, if it meant losing my salvation, or even moving further away from Christ. To me, there is no life without God. My joy is to glorify Christ and to please the Father and to help people.
Do you really think that's about material riches? Can't you look past your carnal mind and see that it's not about laying up possessions for yourself on earth but in heaven?
You are focusing on the wrong thing again. It's not about money, it's about walking is faith, pleasing the Father, glorifying Christ, helping others, getting prayers answered, and the like.
And I realize that calling someone "poor" is probably one of the worst insults a prosperity gospel follower can give someone. It seems rather tacky for me to explain that I'm not poor, (because I don't consider being poor a moral failing) but I care deeply about people using the Bible to justify dangerous and extremely damaging theology. And no, I don't believe that we have to be poor, but I do believe that the prosperity gospel is one of the most dangerous heresies of today.
You use the bible to justify your theology of salvation don't you? That's only because you can see it.
I can't do much for your blindness concerning the rest of the gospel that you cannot see.
Prosperity is no more a heresy than healing or salvation. They are all part of walking in and living by faith.
God's people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee,...