Is Antichrist from Rome or Islam?

[Mem]

This topic is well worth investigating. If not, then the warnings of Revelation 14 are for nought.

God Bless

Proper research involves looking at all possibilities and comparing them against the descriptive.

In asking the question, "What would be necessary to control the world?" The first thing I thought of was "To control the oil." As a side note, looking up top oil companies led me to a Forbes article about Putin (but that is irrelevant to this point), and subsequently led a search of the oil industry and I learned of the "new seven sisters," the top 7 US oil companies when America was the leader in oil production. Since, Africa, the UAE, South America, and Russian, own the top 10 companies (China emerged also).

And finally, I found this youtube video Babylon the Great & The Turkish Antichrist-Armeggedon News in which oil is referred to as the wine of the wrath of her fornication and of which cause the of her destruction. At first, when I saw the video was 50 minutes long, I wondered if it would hold my interest that long, but once I began viewing there was no point made that I could dismiss, not even the possibility of a jewish man of sin (this point was made only in brief passing and no claim of knowing exactly).
[video=youtube;uY20IFaWlsQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uY20IFaWlsQ[/video]

 

[Sola_Scriptura]

I am sure the video has interesting information in it. If we interpret the characteristics of the Man of Sin (same as Antichrist) from the Bible itself and review history for a match, the answer is obvious. Without the Bible and history to interpret, there is nothing left but theories and guesses which only lead to more confusion, which is what the enemy of souls seeks. All preconceived ideas must be removed when studying this topic (and any other topic) in order to come to an accurate conclusion. The confusion disappears when this is done. Thanks for posting.

God Bless

 

[iamsoandso]

I have some understanding regarding the questions you ask. Would you be interested in what I have discovered from doing an in-depth amount of study from the Bible and history on these topics? The reality is quite different than most people's perceptions. Let me know.

God Bless

hello,I as it seems along with everyone in the christian body wish that someone would come into a public forum as we have here on c.c. and explain the issues surrounding the beast,antichrist,Babylon ect. this I think is whole benefit of the chat forums. As we know there are really only two types of thoughts in most forums. The two are either those who have gone to one of the types of denominations and heard the explanations of theses issues and believe them to be a good explanation of them,and so are continuing the teaching of them,(or) the other is in a group that has already heard the different explanations of the different denominations and disagree with the opinion's and have either formed there own or are still seeking the answer(I just put these together in the same group,as to the point they are searching for another option). But yes I do,and probably others also so your explanation in a public format is welcome.

I spent time to read the link you provided in post # 168(which is the reasoning why I did not respond more quickly),but after clicking on the part "who is the antichrist",I noticed an issue(although he seems to set the matters of the R.C.C. together well) he seed to begin at an "incorrect point" to reach this explanation. That is he begins with the fourth beast and then to the ten horns and not the 7th head as we know from Danial 7,but also as we know from (Revelations 12;3) the Red dragon also has 7 heads,ten horns and 7 crowns. Then again in in (Revelations 13;1) the beast that rises from the sea has 7 heads,ten horns(with crowns on them),and on upon his heads(all 7) a name of Blasphemy is written. Then as we continue to (Revaluations 17;10) the horn/head which (is),has always been explained as the "Roman empire"(by most denominations),,but in this verse(rev.17;10) is a statement "AND THE OTHER IS NOT YET COME",,now then if the 6th head(the one that "is"),is Rome and it is the 6th head(existed at the time John received the Revelation),,and the 7th head,"had not yet come",, (had not yet come,meaning it would come after Rome at the time John received the Revelation) ,,how do we come to the decision that the "ten horns rise out of the 6th head",,and not after the 7th head comes?

This I think is the best way to begin that is before we can explain who the 10 horns are then first we need to back track and begin with the 6th head and (then) explain who the 7th head is,that is until the 7th head rises to power(after Rome) and then the 10 horns come these things cannot be answered. So are the different beast in these different chapters/books the same beast,or are they different beast,,,and who is the 7th head that rises after Rome?,,thank you for responding,,,

 

[iamsoandso]

Didn't Rome ultimately have two legs, West, then East?

I am not trying to be rude by not responding(I apologize),,I am trying to establish the point that there is an issue in the gap between Greece/Rome and the 7th head,,but you are correct in your thinking this is where the mainstream ideas begin to have us scratching our heads like something is not quite correct,,but almost,,but I'm not try to be rude forgive me,lol

 

[JesusIsAll]

I am not trying to be rude by not responding(I apologize),,I am trying to establish the point that there is an issue in the gap between Greece/Rome and the 7th head,,but you are correct in your thinking this is where the mainstream ideas begin to have us scratching our heads like something is not quite correct,,but almost,,but I'm not try to be rude forgive me,lol

Hey, who's counting? Nothing to apologize for! It was even more a rhetorical question, and I'm bent on literal, more conventional thinking, until kingdom come. You may even have a "leg up" on me... (Now, there's something that needs forgiving... sorry...)

 

[iamsoandso]

Hey, who's counting? Nothing to apologize for! It was even more a rhetorical question, and I'm bent on literal, more conventional thinking, until kingdom come. You may even have a "leg up" on me... (Now, there's something that needs forgiving... sorry...)

lol,I looked back several pages and I have ask several questions and didn't want to go to much farther,as time goes on someone will begin to answer them but I think that they are "the foggy grey area,where all the opinions begin to unravel",not that I'm making fun of them,we just cant guess when our eternal lives are at stake,,we have to answer them.

 

[Jackson123]

The Antichrist will not be roman. He will be a Jew. the false Prophet may be Vatican or any other religion. the fact is we don't know and to speculate is like planting corn that has no root. God is God and if He wanted us to know He would have told us. Just keep your faith in the cross and you hsve nothing to worry about, Amen.

I have been pondering about The antichrist not worship God like his father Abraham.

I think, it can be 2 meaning.

Biological descendent of Abraham, or spiritual.

The bible said that Abraham is father of all believer.

Say I am a Christian, so I worship God of Abraham. And if my son not warship God mean he is not worship his father God of Abraham. I am not Jew.