A Study of the Scriptures: All the Stories in the Bible.
- Thread starter Jason0047
- Start date
-
Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.
If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!
To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
Only God could have been the designer behind such a structure. Not only was it's size amazing for it's time period, but it also has been confirmed as being sea worthy by even secular scientists.
Scientific Study Endorses Seaworthiness of Ark
Noah’s Ark was the focus of a major 1993 scientific study headed by Dr. Seon Hong at the world-class ship research center KRISO, based in Daejeon, South Korea. Dr. Hong’s team compared twelve hulls of different proportions to discover which design was most practical. No hull shape was found to significantly outperform the 4,300-year-old biblical design. In fact, the Ark’s careful balance is easily lost if the proportions are modified, rendering the vessel either unstable, prone to fracture, or dangerously uncomfortable.
The research team found that the proportions of Noah’s Ark carefully balanced the conflicting demands of stability (resistance to capsizing), comfort (“seakeeping”), and strength. In fact, the Ark has the same proportions as a modern cargo ship.
The study also confirmed that the Ark could handle waves as high as 100 ft (30 m). Dr. Hong is now director general of the facility and claims “life came from the sea,” obviously not the words of a creationist on a mission to promote the worldwide Flood. Endorsing the seaworthiness of Noah’s Ark obviously did not damage Dr. Hong’s credibility.
Source: worldwideflood.com/ark/hull_form/hull_optimization.htm
Dr. Seon Won Hong was principal research scientist when he headed up the Noah’s Ark investigation. In May 2005 Dr. Hong was appointed director general of MOERI (formerly KRISO). Dr. Hong earned a B.S. degree in naval architecture from Seoul National University and a Ph.D. degree in applied mechanics from the University of Michigan, Ann Arbor.
Article Source:
https://answersingenesis.org/noahs-ark/thinking-outside-the-box/
Scientific Study Endorses Seaworthiness of Ark
Click to enlarge.
The proportions of the Ark were found to carefully balance the conflicting demands of stability, comfort, and strength.Noah’s Ark was the focus of a major 1993 scientific study headed by Dr. Seon Hong at the world-class ship research center KRISO, based in Daejeon, South Korea. Dr. Hong’s team compared twelve hulls of different proportions to discover which design was most practical. No hull shape was found to significantly outperform the 4,300-year-old biblical design. In fact, the Ark’s careful balance is easily lost if the proportions are modified, rendering the vessel either unstable, prone to fracture, or dangerously uncomfortable.
The research team found that the proportions of Noah’s Ark carefully balanced the conflicting demands of stability (resistance to capsizing), comfort (“seakeeping”), and strength. In fact, the Ark has the same proportions as a modern cargo ship.
The study also confirmed that the Ark could handle waves as high as 100 ft (30 m). Dr. Hong is now director general of the facility and claims “life came from the sea,” obviously not the words of a creationist on a mission to promote the worldwide Flood. Endorsing the seaworthiness of Noah’s Ark obviously did not damage Dr. Hong’s credibility.
Source: worldwideflood.com/ark/hull_form/hull_optimization.htm
Dr. Seon Won Hong was principal research scientist when he headed up the Noah’s Ark investigation. In May 2005 Dr. Hong was appointed director general of MOERI (formerly KRISO). Dr. Hong earned a B.S. degree in naval architecture from Seoul National University and a Ph.D. degree in applied mechanics from the University of Michigan, Ann Arbor.
Article Source:
https://answersingenesis.org/noahs-ark/thinking-outside-the-box/
Last edited:
A window was to be made for the Ark. This was one window to provide light and to see what it was like outside. One light coming down from heaven. This parallels the Light that came from Heaven when Paul seen encountered Jesus (See Acts 9).
In addition to the breaking up of the fountains of the deep, when the windows of heaven were opened letting loose the rain (Judgment), the window on the Ark was closed. When the window was open, the windows of heaven were closed in preventing anymore rain (i.e. Judgment).
In addition to the breaking up of the fountains of the deep, when the windows of heaven were opened letting loose the rain (Judgment), the window on the Ark was closed. When the window was open, the windows of heaven were closed in preventing anymore rain (i.e. Judgment).
There is only one door on the Ark. Jesus is the door. He is the one and only door or way.
The Ark had three levels to it. I believe this represents how Christ is the second person of the Godhead. For the Lord our God is one God who exists as three persons (i.e. the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost) (1 John 5:7).
God destroys all flesh that has the breath of life upon the Earth. The Lord gave the breath of life to Adam. All human beings have a "breath of life" physically by the power of God. From a spiritual standpoint: Well, Jesus had breathed the Holy Spirit upon his disciples. In other words, Christ gave his disciples the "spiritual breath of life."
The Ark had three levels to it. I believe this represents how Christ is the second person of the Godhead. For the Lord our God is one God who exists as three persons (i.e. the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost) (1 John 5:7).
God destroys all flesh that has the breath of life upon the Earth. The Lord gave the breath of life to Adam. All human beings have a "breath of life" physically by the power of God. From a spiritual standpoint: Well, Jesus had breathed the Holy Spirit upon his disciples. In other words, Christ gave his disciples the "spiritual breath of life."
Last edited:
Those who did not have a covenant made with God died. The origin of the English word "covenant" is defined as an "agreement" and or "coming together." The word "covenant" is synonymous with saying the word "Testament", too. When a man and a woman marry, they make an agreement and they come together and become one flesh. They make a "covenant" between one another. For if one cannot resist in lustful temptation, the Scriptures say it is better to marry than to burn. This is a loose parallel or type of the "covenant" we are to make with God. We need to marry God and put away our sin, or we will burn. In the Bible, there are several "covenants" that are made between God and man. However, Hebrews 8-9 talks about how there are only two major "covenants" or "testaments" which were both dedicated in blood; For there is an Old Covenant (Old Testament) and a New Covenant (New Testament) (Which is why our Bibles have an Old and a New Testament section within them).
Here we see two pairs of every living thing must be brought into the Ark. This is in reference to the unclean animals, even though it does not specifically state that here. What is interesting about this part of Scripture is that TWO every sort shall come unto Noah so that he can keep them alive. Just as Noah and his 3 sons were each a pair (i.e. male and female). In other words, Noah and his family were TWO each, too. This is important to understand because God was going to wipe out the FIRST world and create a SECOND new world with Noah and his family (Which is a picture or symbol of how man needs to be born again spiritually a SECOND time so as to enter the Kingdom of God). So when this world passes away again, the man who is born a SECOND time, will partake in the new world to come (i.e. Either in the Millennium and or the Eternal New Earth).
Also, I heard skeptics and even a TV show focused on telling the story of the Bible say that Noah went out to get all the animals. This is man's thinking that has creeped into Scripture. Nowhere in the Bible does it say that. On the contrary, this above passage states,
"two of every sort shall come unto thee."
In other words, two of every (unclean) animal will COME (arrive themselves) unto Noah. Meaning, God brought the animals unto Noah, just as God brought the animals unto Adam so that he could name them.
Not only did Noah have the enormous task of building the Ark, but he also had to gather enough food for his family and himself and for all the animals that would be on board the Ark for an extended period of time. If anyone cooks and prepares their own food for work every single day has sort of an idea of what this like. Farmers especially know what it is like to work hard to put food on the table for their family from the providings of their own land (with cattle and crops, etc.). Noah, sure was a "comfort" to these animals. They did not have to go out and feed themselves. Noah gathered everything they needed for the long journey ahead of them.
Here we see two pairs of every living thing must be brought into the Ark. This is in reference to the unclean animals, even though it does not specifically state that here. What is interesting about this part of Scripture is that TWO every sort shall come unto Noah so that he can keep them alive. Just as Noah and his 3 sons were each a pair (i.e. male and female). In other words, Noah and his family were TWO each, too. This is important to understand because God was going to wipe out the FIRST world and create a SECOND new world with Noah and his family (Which is a picture or symbol of how man needs to be born again spiritually a SECOND time so as to enter the Kingdom of God). So when this world passes away again, the man who is born a SECOND time, will partake in the new world to come (i.e. Either in the Millennium and or the Eternal New Earth).
Also, I heard skeptics and even a TV show focused on telling the story of the Bible say that Noah went out to get all the animals. This is man's thinking that has creeped into Scripture. Nowhere in the Bible does it say that. On the contrary, this above passage states,
"two of every sort shall come unto thee."
In other words, two of every (unclean) animal will COME (arrive themselves) unto Noah. Meaning, God brought the animals unto Noah, just as God brought the animals unto Adam so that he could name them.
Not only did Noah have the enormous task of building the Ark, but he also had to gather enough food for his family and himself and for all the animals that would be on board the Ark for an extended period of time. If anyone cooks and prepares their own food for work every single day has sort of an idea of what this like. Farmers especially know what it is like to work hard to put food on the table for their family from the providings of their own land (with cattle and crops, etc.). Noah, sure was a "comfort" to these animals. They did not have to go out and feed themselves. Noah gathered everything they needed for the long journey ahead of them.
Last edited:
Noah was a preacher of righteousness according to Peter in the New Testament. This lines up with what is said in this above passage. Noah did all that God commanded him. For God said to Noah that he and his family was righteous before him. This reminds me of the saying at the end of Revelation (Which is the End or close of the Bible), that says,
"And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand. He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still."
"And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be"
(Revelation 22:10-12).
Noah worked hard and was righteous, and he was rewarded for his efforts.
Here we see the details of how Noah was to bring 7 of every pair (male and female) of the clean animals and only 2 pair of unclean animals. This was declared to Noah 7 days before God would make it rain for 40 days and 40 nights. This is important to understand that 7 of every pair (male and female) of all clean animals must be be taken into the Ark because they used the clean animals to offer sacrifices unto God. In the Law of Moses (within Leviticus), these sacrifices would involve taking the blood and sprinking it 7 times to consecrate either a person (Leviticus 14:7), and or people (Leviticus 16:19). The blood was also sprinkled 7 times before the veil of the sanctuary as a part of a holy ceremony, too (Leviticus 4:6).
Why 7 times?
Well, there are 7 Places Where It Is Implied That Jesus Shed His Blood.
For the blood of Jesus is the most powerful substances in the whole universe. For.. "Without the shedding of blood there is NO remission of sin".
No other religion in the world except Christianity can take away the Sin of Adam and give mankind FORGIVENESS and a NEW LIFE.
Here is a Written Work that is called the: "Seven Places where Jesus Shed His blood " by Larry Huch.
1. Jesus shed His blood in the Garden of Gesthemane to redeem my will.
(Matthew 26:19; 1 Peter 1:18-19)
2. Jesus was whipped to break the curse of sickness and disease from my life.
(Isaiah 53:5; 1 Peter 2:24)
3. Jesus' crown of thorns was placed on Jesus' brow, to break the curse of poverty and release me into God's abundance. (Genesis 3:17, 18 2; Corinthians 8, 9)
4. Jesus' hands were pierced by the nails, to restore total dominion to the works of my hands.
(Genesis 1:26-28; Deut. 28:12-13)
5. Jesus' feet were nailed to the cross, to restore total dominion in my walk. (Joshua 1:3; Deut 11:24)
6 The spear was thrust through Jesus' side, showing that he died from a broken heart, to heal my broken heart. This also illustrates his giving birth to His bride from His side as did the first Adam with Eve. (Luke 4:18; Psalm 147:3 AMP)
7. Jesus bled on the inside when he was bruised to break every iniquity, to expel the inner drive of sin from my life. (Isaiah 53:5; 2 Corinthians 2:21; 2 Corinthians 5:17)
Source Used (For Last Comment):
Thoughts to Ponder: 7 Places Jesus Shed His BLOOD
"And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand. He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still."
"And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be"
(Revelation 22:10-12).
Noah worked hard and was righteous, and he was rewarded for his efforts.
Here we see the details of how Noah was to bring 7 of every pair (male and female) of the clean animals and only 2 pair of unclean animals. This was declared to Noah 7 days before God would make it rain for 40 days and 40 nights. This is important to understand that 7 of every pair (male and female) of all clean animals must be be taken into the Ark because they used the clean animals to offer sacrifices unto God. In the Law of Moses (within Leviticus), these sacrifices would involve taking the blood and sprinking it 7 times to consecrate either a person (Leviticus 14:7), and or people (Leviticus 16:19). The blood was also sprinkled 7 times before the veil of the sanctuary as a part of a holy ceremony, too (Leviticus 4:6).
Why 7 times?
Well, there are 7 Places Where It Is Implied That Jesus Shed His Blood.
For the blood of Jesus is the most powerful substances in the whole universe. For.. "Without the shedding of blood there is NO remission of sin".
No other religion in the world except Christianity can take away the Sin of Adam and give mankind FORGIVENESS and a NEW LIFE.
Here is a Written Work that is called the: "Seven Places where Jesus Shed His blood " by Larry Huch.
1. Jesus shed His blood in the Garden of Gesthemane to redeem my will.
(Matthew 26:19; 1 Peter 1:18-19)
2. Jesus was whipped to break the curse of sickness and disease from my life.
(Isaiah 53:5; 1 Peter 2:24)
3. Jesus' crown of thorns was placed on Jesus' brow, to break the curse of poverty and release me into God's abundance. (Genesis 3:17, 18 2; Corinthians 8, 9)
4. Jesus' hands were pierced by the nails, to restore total dominion to the works of my hands.
(Genesis 1:26-28; Deut. 28:12-13)
5. Jesus' feet were nailed to the cross, to restore total dominion in my walk. (Joshua 1:3; Deut 11:24)
6 The spear was thrust through Jesus' side, showing that he died from a broken heart, to heal my broken heart. This also illustrates his giving birth to His bride from His side as did the first Adam with Eve. (Luke 4:18; Psalm 147:3 AMP)
7. Jesus bled on the inside when he was bruised to break every iniquity, to expel the inner drive of sin from my life. (Isaiah 53:5; 2 Corinthians 2:21; 2 Corinthians 5:17)
Source Used (For Last Comment):
Thoughts to Ponder: 7 Places Jesus Shed His BLOOD
Last edited:
As for point #3 on the list above: Well, I believe God does provide for us, but the reference to "abundance" would be "spiritual abundance" and not "physical abundance" because many of the apostles did not have all that much material wise. Some had a house, etc., but they were not prosperity preachers thinking Godliness was gain. Jesus wore a crown for us to be kings and priests spiritually.
Last edited:
Again, a great piece of work except for your statement "Jesus, who was God Almighty", which I believe is not correct. This is all part of the Trinity concept which is a man-made teaching, ie. the Roman Catholic Church. Currently God still exist as the Holy Ghost, Jesus as His Son and is currently sitting on His right hand side as "man" advocate and High Priest, also the mediator between man and God, on the two thrones and not three, and the Holy Spirit on this earth is Jesus Christ, when He received His omnipotence when He was taking His seat on the right hand side of God. The Holy Spirit can also be viewed as the power from God which flows through Jesus Christ which in turn flows through to mankind in much smaller proportions, ie. the gifts of the Holy Spirit, to those who accepted Jesus Christ as their Saviour. That is why the Bible teach us that man cannot go to God without accepting Jesus Christ as that is the path of power. The Holy Spirit can not be seen as another separate entity and if you accept this concept, the creation, the concept of man Jesus and God, Jesus sitting on God's right hand side, the communication between God and Jesus, the Holy Spirit coming onto Jesus like a dove when He was baptized, the two thrones in the new Jerusalem and many other examples in the Bible, can be explained with ease. Even Satan will have no leverage to say that if Jesus was God on this earth, His death would have been a bluff to mankind as God cannot die. In the beginning God existed and He created Jesus Christ as the first creation and was a God with all the attributes of God the Father, also the Word, but He had to give up His deity to become man, totally, for God's Salvation Plan to work out perfectly. We just need to think outside the box as God has given us all brains, and not accept a teaching that might appear to be correct or some side notes in the translators documents that became part of the Bible. All things in the Bible needs to gel and they do if you accept the two entity concept as I have explained it above.
First, this is not a debate thread. If you disagree, please provide only 1 or 2 sentences why you disagree and then provide a link (As per the original post rules). However, just to let you know, that if you do post a link to another thread, please be aware that I am currently not interested in debating the truth of the Godhead (Trinity) and the fact that Jesus is God. Veritably, for if there is one fact the Bible makes 100% clear about, it is that Jesus is God. In fact, not that you will look at it, but here are 160 reasons that says Jesus is God...
160 Reasons Jesus Christ is Almighty God
For what was revealed to me was not of my own power or thoughts, but it was from God. For I asked Him to show me something in Genesis chapter 1 that speaks about Him, and He showed me. I ask Him to reveal the truth of His Word, and the Spirit leads me into the truth.
160 Reasons Jesus Christ is Almighty God
For what was revealed to me was not of my own power or thoughts, but it was from God. For I asked Him to show me something in Genesis chapter 1 that speaks about Him, and He showed me. I ask Him to reveal the truth of His Word, and the Spirit leads me into the truth.
Last edited:
Well, I decided to re-examine this list of 7 a little more closely (That Larry Huch created). At first glance it sounded nice. But after seeing #3 was in obvious error, I decided to look down the list again.
As for Point #1., Jesus was taking on our sin in the Garden of Gethsemane when He took the cup from the Father. For in that cup had all our sins within it. That is why Jesus recoiled in not wanting to take the cup and to let it pass from Him. That cup had all of the world's sins. Jesus sweat great drops of blood because he was under great strain over taking on such a burden all at once. A parallel of Christ's cup in the Garden can be found with the cup that Joseph put in Benjamin's sack. Both were cups of guilt and both cups were taken as a means to pay the price for guilt. Also, my free will is still intact when I accepted Christ. I merely a new creation after being born again and I have a new heart with new desires. But my will is not eliminated. Jesus gives me the victory over sin and death so as to have the ability to surrender to God's will. But my free will is not gone.
As for Point #1., Jesus was taking on our sin in the Garden of Gethsemane when He took the cup from the Father. For in that cup had all our sins within it. That is why Jesus recoiled in not wanting to take the cup and to let it pass from Him. That cup had all of the world's sins. Jesus sweat great drops of blood because he was under great strain over taking on such a burden all at once. A parallel of Christ's cup in the Garden can be found with the cup that Joseph put in Benjamin's sack. Both were cups of guilt and both cups were taken as a means to pay the price for guilt. Also, my free will is still intact when I accepted Christ. I merely a new creation after being born again and I have a new heart with new desires. But my will is not eliminated. Jesus gives me the victory over sin and death so as to have the ability to surrender to God's will. But my free will is not gone.
Yes, there are 7 known musical notes that we use in music. As for the colors in the rainbow: Generally this is the accepted view because the human eye can see these colors. Scientists believe there are more colors that the eye cannot see and others will point out that all color is based on the 3 primary colors (Which is true). But when we look simply at a rainbow... there are 7 visibly distinct colors within it.
Also, there are:
7 continents.
7 spots (generally) on a lady bug (Note: Lady bugs are considered good luck).
7 is considered a lucky number by most people.
7 is picked most by people when asked to choose a number between 1-10.
7 days in a week.
7 bones (generally) is found in the neck of most animals.
7 is the number of rows in the periodic table.
7 is the neutral pH value that lies between acidity and alkalinity.
7 hours is the optimum amount of sleep needed (according to a US scientific study).
Also, there are:
7 continents.
7 spots (generally) on a lady bug (Note: Lady bugs are considered good luck).
7 is considered a lucky number by most people.
7 is picked most by people when asked to choose a number between 1-10.
7 days in a week.
7 bones (generally) is found in the neck of most animals.
7 is the number of rows in the periodic table.
7 is the neutral pH value that lies between acidity and alkalinity.
7 hours is the optimum amount of sleep needed (according to a US scientific study).
I also wanted to correct the above in saying that it was not 7 implied things within Scripture whereby Jesus had shed His blood, too; But it was actually 4 things where it is implied that Jesus had shed His blood. For I have discovered only 3 things that state specifically that Jesus had bled in a unique way
1. Bruised (Internal bleeding),
2. Sweated out blood,
3. Blood had come forth from His side (From a spear).
Other verses imply bleeding, but they do not specifically state that fact.
1. Bruised (Internal bleeding),
2. Sweated out blood,
3. Blood had come forth from His side (From a spear).
Other verses imply bleeding, but they do not specifically state that fact.
Last edited: