What is the different between original sin and daily sin.

[Elin]

None of these wolves preach repentance. They only preach a "confession of sinfulness" and because of this the iniquity is never purged from the heart of those who confess. All they do is confess, clean up their act a little or a lot and then carry on sinning, all the while believing that God is going to change them because they "trust Him." That is not what the Bible teaches.

Previously addressed. . .multiple times.

 

[Cassian]

You just don't get it, do you?

You just want God to be accountable to you.

If God saves them, he will complete the work the has begun (Php 1:6).

It might be best to mind your own business, and let God mind his.

You don't have a clue about what it means to be born again, and that's very revealing.

Likewise, it's pretty elementary that if God has not saved them, the sin will not stop.

What is it you are not getting about what the NT presents?

This is opposite of scripture. One is not saved until the end when the accounting is done. If sin never stopped there is no salvation.

This response is entirely couched in Calvin's doctrine of predestination whereby God is the only agent, and He saved any person from before the world was made. Another one of the false teachings of Calvinism and wholly unscriptural.

 

[Elin]

You see a lot of Pastors will indeed say that the
sin must stop at some stage otherwise one would have reason to doubt they were really saved. Yet
WHEN does the sin actually stop?

You just don't get it, do you?

You just want God to be accountable to you.

If God saves them, he will complete the work the has begun (Php 1:6).

It might be best to mind your own business, and let God mind his.

You don't have a clue about what it means to be born again, and that's very revealing.

Likewise, it's pretty elementary that if God has not saved them, the sin will not stop.

What is it you are not getting about what the NT presents?

This is opposite of scripture. One is not saved until the end when the accounting is done. If sin never stopped there is no salvation.

Not according to Ro 8:28-30.

 

[Cassian]

Not according to Ro 8:28-30.

So, all predestinarians say. However, there is nothing in the text that states that individuals are predestined to salvation.


The preface of those who are the elect, are those that love God. What was predestined is that those who love God, thes elect, will be transformed into His Likeness, made Holy and blameless.

As to the sequence it is simply pointing out the means by which God works with humans beings. All human beings and it is the free response of any human being in the affirmative that God and the Holy Spirit work together.

Once again you are being led by a false teacher, Calvin.

God is faithful and will do what He promises. However, man can be unfaithful and can quench the Holy Spirit and leave the fold.

 

[Elin]

This is opposite of scripture. One is not saved until the end when the accounting is done. If sin never stopped there is no salvation.

Not according to Ro 8:28-30.

So, all predestinarians say. However,
there is nothing in the text that states that individuals are predestined to salvation.

Stay on topic. . .

The topic is not predestination, it's salvation completed.

In Ro 8:28-30, it's all past tense, completed, no waiting until the end comes.

You really could use a new playbook.

 

[Cassian]

Stay on topic. . .

The topic is not predestination, it's salvation completed.

In Ro 8:28-30, it's all past tense, completed, no waiting until the end comes.

You really could use a new playbook.

It is all waiting until the end.

The context of the chapter from vs28-39 is about God's faithfulness to those that believe. Paul is writing to the Roman Christians (late 50's) at the time of great persecution in Rome by Nero. Because of the severe persecution they were questioning God's faithfulness to them.

Paul then writes this chain to show that God has not forgotten them. God had a plan for them. Those that love Him would be changed, transformed into His Likeness. God calls all men but only a few respond. Those that do respond are justified, and those justified are glorified, If one is faithful one experiences each of these events. Paul is not making a theological statement here. He does not include that any believer who leaves the fold will never experience all of these events.
It is simply God's promise not to leave them. God will not abandon His plan for creating man, nor His plan for those that see and believe, that love Him.

One's personal salvation is never a (past tense), it is always future, and then only if one endures to the end.

Your proof text playbook falters again.

 

[Elin]

Stay on topic. . .

The topic is not predestination, it's salvation completed.

In Ro 8:28-30, it's all past tense, completed, no waiting until the end comes.

You really could use a new playbook.

It is all waiting until the end.

One's personal salvation is never a (past tense), it is always future, and then only if one endures to the end.

Your proof text playbook falters again.

I guess Paul didn't get the memo, because he uses only past tense in Ro 8:28-30.

And I'll be taking him as the authority on the matter.

 

[Cassian]

I guess Paul didn't get the memo, because he uses only past tense in Ro 8:28-30.

And I'll be taking him as the authority on the matter.

Of course it is past tense. As soon as one becomes a believer all of these events are past. But they are not consummated until one has died. Your salvation is never past tense. The means by which God uses is always past tense. How could you get to the end unless these events occurred in a believers life. That one is called does not occur at the end but the beginning, thus when one responds it is past tense, justified, but that does not guarantee the end result. One's faithfulness and endurance confirms the positive end result.

Only hope that you would take him as he states, here and elsewhere.

 

[Elin]

I guess Paul didn't get the memo, because he uses only past tense in Ro 8:28-30.

It's all a done deal.

And I'll be taking him as the authority on the matter.

Of course it is past tense. As soon as one becomes a believer all of these events are past. But they are not consummated until one has died. Your salvation is never past tense. The means by which God uses is always past tense. How could you get to the end unless these events occurred in a believers life. That one is called does not occur at the end but the beginning, thus when one responds it is past tense, justified, but that does not guarantee the end result. One's faithfulness and endurance confirms the positive end result.

Only hope that you would take him as he states, here and elsewhere.

I guess Paul didn't get the memo, because he uses only past tense in Ro 8:28-30.

It's all a done deal.

And I'll be taking him as the authority on the matter.